Othello Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Umm no! Nok should be in the group but I doubt they've been included What's wrong with Nok? Flown with them loads of times and never a problem!Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrdome Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 There are 20(+) airlines in Thailand?! ... is my question here. Obviously, those still OK to fly need to be added to the 16. My guess is that these 16 airlines were barely operational or very small. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juice777 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 I remember awhile back, didn't the CEO? of Swampy blame several mantainance issues on, "bad spirits",,, and claimed some new spirit houses needed to be build at the airport to appease them... Seems you are righthttp://www.leecraker.com/wp/thai-airways-to-appease-vengeful-evil-spirits-causing-crashMind-bogglingSent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydebolle Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 To be frank, I had no clue that this country has 16 airlines. Thai sucks big time, Thai Smile is the same but at half the price, Nok Air and Air Asia stick to what they are - low cost carriers providing what they say the do and all the (unknown) rest ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerojero Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 So let me understand something here, all those airlines we flying and or offering air transportation already while not fit or fully qualified to be engaged in such services? it's with the grace of god that no accidents happened to those operations....Buddhists have no god. And if he had grace, we would not have h.Harvey killing people nor evils of war. Grace of god, nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave67 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 14 minutes ago, juice777 said: Seems you are righthttp://www.leecraker.com/wp/thai-airways-to-appease-vengeful-evil-spirits-causing-crash Mind-boggling Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk Fodder for the masses to take them away from the real issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thian Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 14 hours ago, shaurene said: Hi Dave. I think they are asking who the ones with the safety problems. I count 23 Thai airlines on that site, 16 out of 23 suspended is VERY serious imo. Well i'm happy with this report since it wouldn't be nice if one of them crashes into BKK....and they have been warned many times last years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 The defamation laws here are almost criminal in themselves, in their extreme level of cowardice. Call them out by name. Stop cowering in a corner. Live your life.Stand up for what is right. Be a man. Why even write the article, unless you are going to call out the ones who have failed the test? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakeupplease Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 1 minute ago, spidermike007 said: The defamation laws here are almost criminal in themselves, in their extreme level of cowardice. Call them out by name. Stop cowering in a corner. Live your life.Stand up for what is right. Be a man. Why even write the article, unless you are going to call out the ones who have failed the test? CCA It is the countries biggest problem if they ever changed that law to civil like in other countries you watch the corruption stop almost over night as then they who use the laws to shut you up would be paying the costs not the state and then the bib could get on and do some traffic laws. But it will not change as the hiso like it that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 13 hours ago, davehowden said: And the 16 airlines are ??? Shhhhh, don't ask awkward questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoop1130 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Twelve airlines to terminate international flights this month Twelve airlines will have their international flights terminated pending an International Civil Aviation Organization inspection to free-up their Red Flag status. According to the Civil Aviation Authority of Thailand (CAAT), starting on Sept 1, 12 airlines that have not been granted Air Operator Certificates (AOC) will have to terminate international flight operations until the completion of the International Civil Aviation Organizations (ICAO) inspection. Accordingly, the CAAT will be implementing three measures to provide assistance for the duration of the inspection. These include allowing increased domestic flights not exceeding 7 flights a week, allowing direct sale of tickets to customers and finally negotiating with the Department of Airports Thailand and U-tapao airport for reductions of parking fees. All these steps are aimed at providing reparation for loss of income while waiting for the ICAO to complete their inspection as well as reducing the impact on their employees. Full Story: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/twelve-airlines-terminate-international-flights-month/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2017-9-5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiPauly Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 No aircraft taking off from CM that I have heard for hours since I read this topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Freckle Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Well I'll be a suck egg mule...., who would have thunk it ? They better get their sh** together before I fly in Oct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borzandy Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 13 hours ago, davehowden said: And the 16 airlines are ??? No thaibashing PLS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweatalot Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 ... airlines ...will have to terminate international flight operations but .... allowing increased domestic flights .. that means: the unsafe airlines are still allowed to operate in Thailand ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 54 minutes ago, snoop1130 said: Twelve airlines to terminate international flights this month Twelve airlines will have their international flights terminated pending an International Civil Aviation Organization inspection to free-up their Red Flag status. According to the Civil Aviation Authority of Thailand (CAAT), starting on Sept 1, 12 airlines that have not been granted Air Operator Certificates (AOC) will have to terminate international flight operations until the completion of the International Civil Aviation Organizations (ICAO) inspection. Accordingly, the CAAT will be implementing three measures to provide assistance for the duration of the inspection. These include allowing increased domestic flights not exceeding 7 flights a week, allowing direct sale of tickets to customers and finally negotiating with the Department of Airports Thailand and U-tapao airport for reductions of parking fees. All these steps are aimed at providing reparation for loss of income while waiting for the ICAO to complete their inspection as well as reducing the impact on their employees. Full Story: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/twelve-airlines-terminate-international-flights-month/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2017-9-5 Quote from the above article: Quote Until today, 9 airlines in Thailand have passed the ICAOs strict Recertification Inspection regime and can now resume normal operations. These include Thai Airways International, Bangkok Airways, Thai AirAsia, Thai AirAsia X, NokScoot, NokAir, Thai Smile Airways, Lion Air and Sabaidee or New Gen Airways. See? I TOLD you there was nothing to worry about. All those hours searching the net.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 31 minutes ago, ThaiPauly said: No aircraft taking off from CM that I have heard for hours since I read this topic And thus the 'all airlines in Thailand are immediately grounded' rumor begins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvavin Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 I know myself that there is a certain level of rick factors in any transport but I will definitely feel a lot more safer for not flying with THAI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvr181 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 13 hours ago, darksidedog said: I thought the same, but I guess you can find out easy enough as they are the ones who wont be able to sell you a ticket right now. I have to say I find this amusing in that only a few short weeks ago, we were told Thailand was to become the hub in Asia for aircraft maintenance, yet now it seems their abilities on this front are as poor as most comments on the subject suggested. Along with the stuff ups at airport immigration. Seems the "authorities" are inept at planning for the future Much loss of face world wide? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4Jazz Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Isn't showing a Thai Air plane, defamation? Implying that it's one of the banned airlines. I think it's crazy not naming the 16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Media bash ! 16 airlines? Registered in Thailand? If is fact then a list would not involve any risk of defamation regardless of even any minor issue ! Bash on ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Next stop NK Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Airlines and Tuk Tuks are run in the same Way in thailand, sad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldhippy Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 37 minutes ago, Dumbastheycome said: Media bash ! 16 airlines? Registered in Thailand? If is fact then a list would not involve any risk of defamation regardless of even any minor issue ! Bash on ! Whatdoyoumean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 1 minute ago, oldhippy said: Whatdoyoumean? You need to ask ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldhippy Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Just now, Dumbastheycome said: You need to ask ? yes, I am dumb as they come. or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Just now, oldhippy said: yes, I am dumb as they come. or not. Name me the 16 airlines. i have seen an acclaim that Thai Air is one of them but not so ! Media headlining is not a demonstration of fact or the paranoid compliance to it in response ! Even the later reduction to the number of 12 airlines does not remedy the attempt to bash in my opinion. Be a dumb as you wish to be if that is your choice. To me "dumb" is the inability to be vocal. But I am not or never intend to be denied my right to a considered opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Tuft Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Here you all go - putting this to bed for everyone now... The airlines that failed to pass international safety standards include low-cost domestic carriers such as Orient Thai Airlines, Thai VietJet Air and Siam Air Transport. The rest – mostly private charter jet and cargo carriers – are Mjets, K-Mile Air, Jet Asia Airways, AC Aviation, Siam Land Flying, Asia Atlantic Airlines, VIP Jets, H.S. Aviation, Advance Aviation and Skyview Airways. Source: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/transpo/2017/09/05/13-airlines-blocked-flying-abroad-await-judgment/ You're welcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldhippy Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 1 minute ago, Dumbastheycome said: Name me the 16 airlines. i have seen an acclaim that Thai Air is one of them but not so ! Media headlining is not a demonstration of fact or the paranoid compliance to it in response ! Even the later reduction to the number of 12 airlines does not remedy the attempt to bash in my opinion. Be a dumb as you wish to be if that is your choice. To me "dumb" is the inability to be vocal. But I am not or never intend to be denied my right to a considered opinion. There is no such thing as "Thai Air" - unless you are talking about pollution, or about 1 confused poster (if so, why was he confused?). And I believe that the most common heard questions in this thread were: who are those 12 (or 16) airlines, and why are they not named. If that is Thai bashing, so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nong38 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 When I look at airline the first thing I do is look at the safety record, then I ask myself how much do I trust this airline to maintain their aircraft in a safe condition, because I am putting my life in their hands. I have not used a Thai airline for over 5 years and that will continue to be the case. Thats my choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 1 minute ago, Argus Tuft said: Here you all go - putting this to bed for everyone now... The airlines that failed to pass international safety standards include low-cost domestic carriers such as Orient Thai Airlines, Thai VietJet Air and Siam Air Transport. The rest – mostly private charter jet and cargo carriers – are Mjets, K-Mile Air, Jet Asia Airways, AC Aviation, Siam Land Flying, Asia Atlantic Airlines, VIP Jets, H.S. Aviation, Advance Aviation and Skyview Airways. Source: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/transpo/2017/09/05/13-airlines-blocked-flying-abroad-await-judgment/ You're welcome Appreciated. So mostly non mainstream general public passenger oriented carriers probably ignoring or paying off compliances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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