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alcoholics - anyone else having problems trying to get semi sober

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My sympathies to you.

Not sure that you are a true alcoholic as you do not drink in daylight hours, unless you have a "top up "

in the afternoon.

One thing I tried was to limit my times of drinking , ie not start until 5 pm, then 6 pm & so on.

Now only beer ( I am a beer only man now ) after a liver problem & do not start until 8pm (after dinner)

& manage to stop drinking for 18 hours a day (as my Doctor advised if I wanted to live )

Good luck & I hope somethings I have written will help. Stay strong & make sure you eat well

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When you described yourself you described most people i work with who arent co-inhabiting with someone. You arent suffering from alcoholism, you sound like you are responding to boredom by drinking. Find an activity you want to do at night that disrupts the opportunity to drink or a hobby that gets disrupted if you drink. You just sound like you have gotten into a routine that you need to change by creating a new routine. Good luck with it. I dont drink a lot anymore but i have had periods where i did and i use running as a tool because running gets disrupted by alcohol and i like running so i make a choice. When i do drink I binge, so i limit the available alcohol at home so that i don't have an endless stream to swig. However like all people, sometimes i get it all wrong and get sh*tfaced, but rarely now.

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45 minutes ago, natway09 said:

My sympathies to you.

Not sure that you are a true alcoholic as you do not drink in daylight hours, unless you have a "top up "

in the afternoon.

One thing I tried was to limit my times of drinking , ie not start until 5 pm, then 6 pm & so on.

Now only beer ( I am a beer only man now ) after a liver problem & do not start until 8pm (after dinner)

& manage to stop drinking for 18 hours a day (as my Doctor advised if I wanted to live )

Good luck & I hope somethings I have written will help. Stay strong & make sure you eat well

 

 

not true. alcoholism is progressive and does not require maintenance drinking 24/ 7 until the body reaches that physiologic point. several patterns to alcoholism that do not require 24/7 drinking or daytime drinking.

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i would like to thank you all for your positive insights and wisdom.  I am now 3pm just waking up from what i refer to as a double drunk, meaning getting drunk but waking up to early to actually get up so getting drunk enough again to being able to go back to sleep.  after last nights horrific nightmares, which have only happened to me 3 times in my life , all in the last week of semi sobriety, i wanted nothing to do with reality and drank myself to a proper sleep.

 

a lot of you said something about AA. ok i have actually never gone to a meeting, but from my understanding, and please correct me if i am wrong, it is a reliogious thing. maybe christian, but i would rather be an alcoholic than be brain washed by any religion. even pissed drunk i can think for myself. but again thanks for your info, and again maybe i wrong.

 

oxo i got your pm but could not open it. will look in to it

 

btw have a great lady living with me. this is not much of a burdon on her as i said i am never out of control in public, actually i am usually the man everyone around us realies upon to get them home safely when they get drunk in public. mostly thais. but some farong as well. get home she goes to bed and then i will start on it and go join her an hour or two later.   but that is not the point of this story...  

 

this story is about the bad dreams/nightmares now that i was cutting down this last week.  pills - well i have spent many yrs with many different kinds trying to use them to go to sleep instead of the drink, but pills give me a hangover the next day, feel tired, some time brain not work to the fullest. never get hangovers from alcohol, last time maybe in my 20s.

 

exercise i think is a good idea i might try evenmore.  i usually take the bicycle out for an hour ortwo  last couple of hours of daylight. even though i have lights on it, i also drive a car with heavyly tinted windows as is every car here, so i know the difficuties in seeing things at night.  and you think about the hundreds of motorbikes that drive around with no lights on. suiside drivers.

 

one said i was not a true alcoholic as i not drink as soon as i wake up or during the day.  25 yrs of 6-10 beer and 500 ml whisky a day. but i did say functioning alcoholic.  and if i was to leave bkk at 7pm to go back to jomtien, i would not touch a drink untill back to jomtien. not drink if i have something important to do.

 

again thanks all for the encouragement and listening to me,  hopefully that might be all i need to get over the hill.

 

much love, there actually is good people on this site.

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Alcoholism is an illness which says to you that you are not alcoholic - a disease of denial.

I got sober via AA & did what was suggested including getting a sponsor. This was a huge challenge to my pride/ego.

'One day @ a time'. 'Go to meetings.'

The God concept was a real put off but they included a power of my understanding - it does not need to be Christianity.

Buddhism was a comfortable fit & I have not had a need to have a drink since  08 April 1984.

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There is a lot of herbal stuff you can take to get rid of the side effects, for me tea with turmeric, cinnamon, pepper and coconut oil in the morning works perfect to balance out my body. Search for golden paste or golden milk, etc. There are many other positive effects.

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AA has nothing to do with religion at all its run usualy by alcoholics for Alcoholics. Personaly i found it absolutley brilliant made some life long friends there who know and understand where you are. Something non Alcoholics cant do. Give it a go nothing to lose trust me.

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I would recommend Xanax to help quit alcohol and treat insomnia, you can get it from nearest clinic.

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I second Jeab1980 on AA -- it has nothing to do with Christianity or any other religion. AA talks about a "higher power" and "twelve steps" and other concepts that sound suspiciously cultish to the uninitiated, but these are merely tools that you can interpret and use as you wish, or leave off altogether (although countless people have quit drinking by using these tools). AA is completely nonjudgmental, totally without obligation (well, almost -- you shouldn't show up at a meeting drunk), and exists for one purpose -- to provide mutual support for people who want to stop drinking.

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5 hours ago, superglue said:

The quantity consumed is irrelevant - it is the effect upon you & others.

 

Yup, have friends that run major aerospace companies/ex-space shuttle pilots/serious materials researchers, can drink like fish and still do their best and still be pretty damn good (funny) people.  It is the effect on you and how you relate to others while under the influence that matters.  If a single drink causes depression or makes you take things out on people, it is one drink too many.

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I've heard that insomnia is a part of heavy, long term alcoholism....

I used to have a vice president - a brilliant man that used to drive management crazy by checking on corporate places at all hours in the middle of the night....He was a recovered alcoholic that never recovered a normal sleep pattern....

Sleeping pills + a regular routine are probably a wise way to approach - but no defaulting back to alcohol....

It was not a good answer in the first place....Best to make the needed life changes - while the option is still in your hands & you still have time left to spend on this planet....

 

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Sleeping pills - NO.

The AA saying is to swap the witch for the bitch.

Disclosure - I am unaware of the latest medications.

 

Help others to achieve sobriety just by being a good listener is a good start.

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The topic heading is misleading.

Total abstinence is the only way to recovery if AA principles are adhered to.

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Don't worry man it seems weird now bit it will pass. I have been thru the dreams both with cigarettes and alchaol 

It took abut 6 months for the dreams and haluhanations to go go away but they do.

 

I cold turkeyed booze for 23 years and cigs for 55 years. 

 

Hang in there and good luck

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18 minutes ago, superglue said:

The topic heading is misleading.

Total abstinence is the only way to recovery if AA principles are adhered to.

Plus, it's usually easier -- you never have to decide whether to have a drink, or whether to have another!

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