webfact Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 Temple gives flak jackets to local authorities for protection By Thai PBS The abbot of Wat Khaodaeng temple in Nakhon Nayok province yesterday (Sept 20) delivered 20 sets for flak jackets and communications equipment to local administration officials for protection during their routine patrols. The abbot, Phra Khru Ratanakirirak, of the temple in Tambon Sarika, said the jackets and communications equipment were purchased from money donated by Buddhists after regular patrols by the special task force of the Nakhon Nayok local administration could help to curb drug trafficking and drug addiction in the communities. The outstanding performance of local officials has won admiration from local people. Full story: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/temple-gives-flak-jackets-local-authorities-protection/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2017-09-21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CelticBhoy Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 Flak jackets make more sense than "lucky" amulets. Even the monks are latching on to that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckamuck Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 Here ya go boys, now on your way and don't worry too much about checking up on us eh, wink wink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 While foreign journalists on their way to war-torn areas (Syria) get arrested for the possession of a bullet proof west at the airport. This "we are Thai, we are the important people" mentality is (deleted) me off. Btw. isn't the trade of bullet proof wests illegal? Assuming that no temple would give out something for free... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasset Tak Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 1 hour ago, CelticBhoy said: Flak jackets make more sense than "lucky" amulets. Even the monks are latching on to that! I bought some amulets last year in a temple, they were sold for raising money so they could buy flak jackets and other equipment for the border police in northern Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowboat Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 49 minutes ago, Lupatria said: While foreign journalists on their way to war-torn areas (Syria) get arrested for the possession of a bullet proof west at the airport. This "we are Thai, we are the important people" mentality is (deleted) me off. Btw. isn't the trade of bullet proof wests illegal? Assuming that no temple would give out something for free... Yeah, Thailand does seem like the center of the universe and to be Thai is to be privileged above all else especially from the officialdom. One no longer feels that much at home there anymore. A life saving device is a weapon of war. Explains why there are no safety meters installed in silos and sewer pipes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 5 minutes ago, yellowboat said: Yeah, Thailand does seem like the center of the universe and to be Thai is to be privileged above all else especially from the officialdom. One no longer feels that much at home there anymore. A life saving device is a weapon of war. Explains why there are no safety meters installed in silos and sewer pipes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Kasset Tak said: I bought some amulets last year in a temple, they were sold for raising money so they could buy flak jackets and other equipment for the border police in northern Thailand. Think how many they will need to sell for a submarine ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 In Thailand a flak jacket is considered a weapon under Thailand's 1987 Arms Control Act and requires a license for possession. http://phuketwan.com/tourism/journalists-unprotected-against-flak-thailands-laws-23364/ In fact in October 2015 a foreign reporter was charged with violation for carrying a flak jacket in his hand luggage. http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/breakingnews/30270690 If the abbot and local administration officials who are neither law enforcement nor military did not apply for weapon licenses, they might also be in violation of the Arms Control Act. Failure of the police to at least investigate such possible violations demonstrates unequal application of the law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyg Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 On 9/21/2017 at 12:56 PM, Lupatria said: While foreign journalists on their way to war-torn areas (Syria) get arrested for the possession of a bullet proof west at the airport. This "we are Thai, we are the important people" mentality is (deleted) me off. Btw. isn't the trade of bullet proof wests illegal? Assuming that no temple would give out something for free... "This "we are Thai, we are the important people" mentality is (deleted) me off. Btw. isn't the trade of bullet proof wests illegal? <NO> Assuming that no temple would give out something for free..." Thank you for your opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyg Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 On 9/22/2017 at 1:48 AM, Srikcir said: In Thailand a flak jacket is considered a weapon under Thailand's 1987 Arms Control Act and requires a license for possession. http://phuketwan.com/tourism/journalists-unprotected-against-flak-thailands-laws-23364/ In fact in October 2015 a foreign reporter was charged with violation for carrying a flak jacket in his hand luggage. http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/breakingnews/30270690 If the abbot and local administration officials who are neither law enforcement nor military did not apply for weapon licenses, they might also be in violation of the Arms Control Act. Failure of the police to at least investigate such possible violations demonstrates unequal application of the law. Thank you for your opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyg Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 On 9/21/2017 at 2:02 PM, yellowboat said: Yeah, Thailand does seem like the center of the universe and to be Thai is to be privileged above all else especially from the officialdom. One no longer feels that much at home there anymore. A life saving device is a weapon of war. Explains why there are no safety meters installed in silos and sewer pipes. Thank you for your opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inThailand Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 They just realized a Mr T array of amulets can't stop bullets? Why would a temple need protection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyg Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 5 minutes ago, inThailand said: They just realized a Mr T array of amulets can't stop bullets? Why would a temple need protection? You've got a lot of news to catch up on. Monks, teachers and children are the prime targets for radical muslim terrorist in the 3 southern provinces. The military has just issued 2500 HK assault weapons to local civilians to assist them. https://news.vice.com/article/thai-army-hands-out-weapons-to-civilians-in-southern-conflict Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 10 hours ago, joeyg said: The military has just issued 2500 HK assault weapons to local civilians to assist them. That may backfire in bringing peace in the south. "I fear that more arms in the countryside, especially in the hands of people who are really not in the chain of command, is going to exacerbate this problem [tit for tat violence]," .... "They [military] don't need more guns in the south, they need more accountability." - https://news.vice.com/article/thai-army-hands-out-weapons-to-civilians-in-southern-conflict PS: Those "local civilians" are village defense volunteers trained by the military. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyg Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 On 9/23/2017 at 6:46 PM, Srikcir said: That may backfire in bringing peace in the south. "I fear that more arms in the countryside, especially in the hands of people who are really not in the chain of command, is going to exacerbate this problem [tit for tat violence]," .... "They [military] don't need more guns in the south, they need more accountability." - https://news.vice.com/article/thai-army-hands-out-weapons-to-civilians-in-southern-conflict PS: Those "local civilians" are village defense volunteers trained by the military. I'm former military/combat vet. IMPO I think training and arming people to kill radical muslim terrorists is a step in the right direction. Easily half the moto/taxi guys have guns under their seats. I'm all for an armed citizenry just like Switzerland has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 20 minutes ago, joeyg said: I'm former military/combat vet. IMPO I think training and arming people to kill radical muslim terrorists is a step in the right direction. Easily half the moto/taxi guys have guns under their seats. I'm all for an armed citizenry just like Switzerland has. Switzerland never had an ideological and cultural divide like in southern Thailand. It never had to contend with an insurgency created by forced annexation of a foreign sovereignty. US arming villagers didn't work for the South Vietnamese to prevent occupation by North Vietnamese. With regard to southern Thailand, the Thai military has tried outsourcing security duties to local residents as part of an initiative dubbed "the Thung Yang Daeng Model." Essentially a borrowed concept from the US in its fight against North Vietnam. At best the model proved ineffective security and at worst targeted local elected officials and defense volunteers by insurgents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyg Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 5 hours ago, Srikcir said: Switzerland never had an ideological and cultural divide like in southern Thailand. It never had to contend with an insurgency created by forced annexation of a foreign sovereignty. US arming villagers didn't work for the South Vietnamese to prevent occupation by North Vietnamese. With regard to southern Thailand, the Thai military has tried outsourcing security duties to local residents as part of an initiative dubbed "the Thung Yang Daeng Model." Essentially a borrowed concept from the US in its fight against North Vietnam. At best the model proved ineffective security and at worst targeted local elected officials and defense volunteers by insurgents. Thank you for your opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyg Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 On 9/23/2017 at 6:46 PM, Srikcir said: That may backfire in bringing peace in the south. "I fear that more arms in the countryside, especially in the hands of people who are really not in the chain of command, is going to exacerbate this problem [tit for tat violence]," .... "They [military] don't need more guns in the south, they need more accountability." - https://news.vice.com/article/thai-army-hands-out-weapons-to-civilians-in-southern-conflict PS: Those "local civilians" are village defense volunteers trained by the military. Thank you for your opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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