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Rohingya – the most persecuted people in the world

 

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The above was the painful lament of Mohammad Islam, a 60-year Rohingya who fled the violence in his hometown Maungdor in the Rakhine state of Myanmar to neighbouring Bangladesh.

 

With just the clothes covering up his body while the rest of his property went up in flames, Muhammad and his family spent five days trekking in the forest in Rakhine state before arriving at the border of Bangladesh – the new land for him and his family to survive.

 

He managed to find a cement tube which is less than one metre wide outside the Balugali refugee camp in Cox’s Bazar township and turned it into a temporary shelter for his family.  As a newcomer, he has no access to materials to build a shelter.

 

Full story: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/rohingya-persecuted-people-world/

 

 
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15 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

It's really true.

Never again keeps happening, again and again.

Shame on Myanmar and the rest of the world too for the weak welcome for refugees. 

Plenty of news not being told about how they were being bad to the Buddhists ,plenty!

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46 minutes ago, alwaysrainsinUK said:

Plenty of news not being told about how they were being bad to the Buddhists ,plenty!

Blame the victims of genocide instead of the perpetrators.

 

Where have we heard that before? 

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For years now the Rohingya have been killing Buddhist people in Burma in attempts to convert them or get rid of them.  Now Rohingya militants are even killing some of their own.  The Burma army is not trying to wipe out the Rohingya, they are trying to eliminate the Rohingya militants and stop them from killing others.  Many Buddhist villages have been burned and the citizens put to death by the Rohingya militants.  This has been going on for years but recently the Rohingya stepped it up bringing about the situation that exists today.   

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It is important for pepple to read the history of these people, and not believe

everything that they say to the media because of course they will not admit to their

militant groups that were fighting with the Burmese before, their military had enough.

  It is sad that the Muslim counyries, who are so rich, will not help these people and take

them in for even a few years and then find them a Nice Muslim country to live in.

Simple solution, don,t you think?

Geezer

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4 hours ago, DavoTheGun said:

What about the Hindu's they killed last month, Women and Children, they have brought this on themselves, you reap what you sow!

 

The claim is yet to be proven and is at odds with the Rohingya ARSA militant group attacking Myanmar government officials such as police and military, not civilians. We will have to wait and see if in the future the Myanmar military will permit independent observers into the area and what emerges. In anycase, if in fact true, collective punishment of civilians is a war crime, with more than 400k Rohingya being forced to escape the Myanmar military and police ethnic cleansing.

 

It is usual for the anti Muslim clique to carry on about Muslims fleeing conflict and not resorting to armed resistance e.g. refugees from the M.E. In this case there is a relatively small armed resistance taking on the oppressors representatives, military and police, for which they are condemned by the same clique. Of course we never hear from the clique condemning the Myanmar armed Christian ethnic rebels.

 

Below is a fact check article which will no doubt be classified as 'lefty' misinformation by some without any evidence whatsoever to back up their claims. 

 

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-41312931

 

Other countries will only permit a very small number of Rohingya entry as asylum seekers as they are Stateless. Same issues apply to Thai Hill tribe people. In the 1970s Saudi Arabia and Pakistan took in hundreds of thousands of Rohingya, but that was before the Burmese government officially made them stateless in 1982

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Much of the violence started last year when about 400 Rohingya militant idiots had nothing better to do than attack some police outpost . If I remember correctly 8 police officers were killed.

 

The Arakan Rohingya Salvation Army (ARSA) is responsible for the attacks on the police.. The fearless leader (who did not take part in the attack) is called Ata Ullah. He organized the attack (where to go and at what time) via social media.

The military response after the last attacks in October 2016 on three police border posts installations by just about 400 militants has provided the ARSA with new recruits and cannon fodder. Rumors of villages burnt and women raped by the military has been spread to help the recruitment drive of the ARSA.... some of which is probably true IMO....Anyone who is not for the ARSA is accused of being a snitch and their lives and homes are forfeit according to many reports; which is pretty typical in this type of warfare.. and make no mistake it is warfare. ARSA now has an estimated 6500 fighters and militants which will probably grow "IF" they can get outside Muslim support IMO.

So the government can sit back and try to play nice for the next ten or twenty years and the Rohingya will breed a new bunch of independence fighters. It is not just the Rohingya who are affected as most reports I have seen say almost 27,000 non Muslims have been displaced from their homes due to the strife, violence, and hatred.

Thailand has tried to play nice and all it has brought are more bombs, bullets, and and how many dead from the deep south radicals.

There are no easy answers to any of this stuff but I would say some versions of Islam can not coexist with any other society or religion if history is read.

 

Playing nice does not seem to work.

https://japantoday.com/category/world/myanmar-searches-for-more-hindu-corpses-as-mass-grave-unearthed

 

They found a mass grave of women, kids, and men ... Oh they were Hindu not Rohingya..

Quote: YANGON——

Myanmar troops on Monday searched for dozens of missing Hindu villagers feared dead after the discovery of a nearby mass grave of 28 corpses in Rakhine state, evidence of what the army says is a massacre by Rohingya Muslim militants.

Northern Rakhine was plunged into crisis after Rohingya militants raided police posts last month, unleashing an army crackdown that has displaced hundreds of thousands of civilians.

The vast majority -- more than 430,000 -- are Rohingya Muslims who fled across the border to Bangladesh from a military campaign the UN says likely amounts to ethnic cleansing.

But tens of thousands of ethnic Rakhine Buddhists, and the region's small population of Hindus, have also been internally displaced, saying they were attacked by Rohingya militants.  END Quote:

 

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The sad truth, wherever muslims go, big problems, violence, and troubles soon follow. The ONLY solution is to place these people in some muslim country that has an abundance of unused land and let them try to survive by the normal means of hard work and endeavor.

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4 hours ago, simple1 said:

 

The claim is yet to be proven and is at odds with the Rohingya ARSA militant group attacking Myanmar government officials such as police and military, not civilians. We will have to wait and see if in the future the Myanmar military will permit independent observers into the area and what emerges. In anycase, if in fact true, collective punishment of civilians is a war crime, with more than 400k Rohingya being forced to escape the Myanmar military and police ethnic cleansing.

 

It is usual for the anti Muslim clique to carry on about Muslims fleeing conflict and not resorting to armed resistance e.g. refugees from the M.E. In this case there is a relatively small armed resistance taking on the oppressors representatives, military and police, for which they are condemned by the same clique. Of course we never hear from the clique condemning the Myanmar armed Christian ethnic rebels.

 

Below is a fact check article which will no doubt be classified as 'lefty' misinformation by some without any evidence whatsoever to back up their claims. 

 

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-41312931

 

Other countries will only permit a very small number of Rohingya entry as asylum seekers as they are Stateless. Same issues apply to Thai Hill tribe people. In the 1970s Saudi Arabia and Pakistan took in hundreds of thousands of Rohingya, but that was before the Burmese government officially made them stateless in 1982

Interesting that you accept the Rohinga claims at face value and yet demand claims of the mass murder of Hindus to be proven.

 

It will be interesting to see if Article 53, which allows for "... such destruction is rendered absolutely necessary by military operations" applies. Denying material and personnel support to a terrorist organisation seems to be a necessary military objective. 

 

I would be interested in knowing examples of "Muslims fleeing conflict and not resorting to armed resistance" where they weren't committing terror attacks or supported by a Western power.

 

These Mynmar armed Christian ethnic (does that even mean they are not of Burmese ancestry or was it an attempt to normalise the Bengali invansion?) rebels are attacking non-Christian citizens or merely the military? World of difference between those two courses of action. Also why are there other, non-Burmese descended, Muslim communities that are not having the same issue?

 

in regards to your BBC link, which is heavy on speculation and hearsay, I will provide another below which should urge caution against blindly trusting those providing information while having a vested interest in swaying the news to fit their beliefs. 

 

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-41123878

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8 hours ago, BarnicaleBob said:

For years now the Rohingya have been killing Buddhist people in Burma in attempts to convert them or get rid of them.  Now Rohingya militants are even killing some of their own.  The Burma army is not trying to wipe out the Rohingya, they are trying to eliminate the Rohingya militants and stop them from killing others.  Many Buddhist villages have been burned and the citizens put to death by the Rohingya militants.  This has been going on for years but recently the Rohingya stepped it up bringing about the situation that exists today.   

Right. You need to research the history of these people who have lived in the area for hundreds of years.

 

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-22356306

Why are Buddhist monks attacking Muslims?

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The Rohingya are the consequence of Britains's actions there, which was the "opposite of ethnic cleansing" - I have been looking for a word, but didn't find it.

Ethnic cleansing is very bad, synonyms are mass murder, genocide, etc. yet what is the antonym of "ethnic cleansing"?

 

Myanmar certainly has a difficult challenge to overcome in that region, as terrorist support seems to have been pouring into Rakhine and onto Rohingya from the outside for the past decade.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rohingya_insurgency_in_Western_Myanmar

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mujahideen#Myanmar

 

This conflict is old, and the present day Rohingyas are a consequence of islamist expansionism.

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From 1947 to 1961, local mujahideen fought Burmese government forces in an attempt to have the mostly Rohingya populated Mayu peninsula in northern Rakhine State (Arakan) secede from Myanmar (Burma), so it could be annexed by East Pakistan (present-day Bangladesh).[15] During the late 1950s and early 1960s, the mujahideen lost most of its momentum and support, resulting in most of them surrendering to government forces.[16][17]

In the 1970s Rohingya Islamist movements began to emerge from remnants of the mujahideen, and the fighting culminated with the Burmese government launching a massive military operation named Operation King Dragon in 1978.[18] In the 1990s, the well-armed Rohingya Solidarity Organisation was the main perpetrator of attacks on Burmese authorities near the Myanmar-Bangladesh border.[19]

The Rohingya are being used as a tool by islamists.

Al-Quada, Kadyrov, the involvement of Turkey's filthy Erdogan is also worrying.

 

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-41170570

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