webfact Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 'Despondent' May losing sleep on in-fighting, said Juncker: FAZ British Prime Minister Theresa May (L) is welcomed by European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker at the EC headquarters in Brussels, Belgium October 21, 2016. REUTERS/Yves Herman/Files BRUSSELS (Reuters) - Theresa May looked "despondent", with deep rings under her eyes, EU chief executive Jean-Claude Juncker told aides after dining with the British prime minister last week, a German newspaper said on Sunday. The report by a Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung correspondent whose leaked account of a Juncker-May dinner in April caused upset in London, said Juncker thought her "marked" by battles over Brexit with her own Conservative ministers as she asked for EU help to create more room for manoeuvre at home. No immediate comment was available from Juncker's office, which has a policy of not commenting on reports of meetings. The FAZ said May, who flew in for a hastily announced dinner in Brussels with the European Commission president last Monday ahead of an EU summit, seemed to Juncker "anxious, despondent and disheartened", "a woman who trusts hardly anyone but is also not ready for a clear-out to free herself". As she later did over dinner on Thursday with fellow EU leaders, May asked for help to overcome British divisions. "She indicated that back home friend and foe are at her back plotting to bring her down," the paper said. "May said she had no room left to manoeuvre. The Europeans have to create it for her." "May's face and appearance spoke volumes, Juncker later told his colleagues," the FAZ added. "She has deep rings under her eyes. She looks like someone who can't sleep a wink." She smiles for the cameras, it went on, "but it looks forced", unlike in the past, when she could shake with laughter. "Now she needs all her strength not to lose her poise." As with the April dinner at 10 Downing Street, when the FAZ reported that Juncker thought May "in another galaxy" in terms of Brexit expectations, both sides issued statements after last week's meeting saying talks were "constructive and friendly". They said they agreed negotiations should be "accelerated". May dismissed the dinner leak six months ago as "Brussels gossip", though officials on both sides said the report in the FAZ did little to foster an atmosphere of trust which they agree will be important to reach a deal. German Chancellor Angela Merkel was also reported to have been irritated by that leak. Although the summit on Thursday and Friday rejected May's call for an immediate start to talks on the future relationship, leaders made a gesture to speed up the process and voiced hopes of opening a new phase in December. Some said they understood May's difficulties in forging consensus in London. (Reporting by Alastair Macdonald; @macdonaldrtr; Editing by Mary Milliken) -- © Copyright Reuters 2017-10-23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko kok prong Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 she starting to look like Gollum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Thanks for pointing out that May is the one on the L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krataiboy Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Wonder where they got those identical nose jobs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nausea Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Gamesmanship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 To be fair, there's no evidence that Juncker leaked anything. If he wanted to leak things why would he choose just one regional German newspaper to do it? May certainly does appear haggard and after cocking up her snap election and getting shafted by the electorate, she clings on to power with a cabinet of back stabbers, arse lickers and opportunists. Hardly surprising then. Jucnker doesn't bother with these fleabag journalists so won't do them the respect of commenting. Don't blame him. But at some point he will make an example if they are lying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfill Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 5 minutes ago, Baerboxer said: To be fair, there's no evidence that Juncker leaked anything. If he wanted to leak things why would he choose just one regional German newspaper to do it? May certainly does appear haggard and after cocking up her snap election and getting shafted by the electorate, she clings on to power with a cabinet of back stabbers, arse lickers and opportunists. Hardly surprising then. Jucnker doesn't bother with these fleabag journalists so won't do them the respect of commenting. Don't blame him. But at some point he will make an example if they are lying. She wasn't exactly dragged screaming into the job and even she is not stupid enough to think it would have been easy. You can bet she'll be considerably richer when she does go though and still trying to dress like some alluring siren, while looking like an air raid siren. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuaBS Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 How inappropriate of him to touch her . ( in the pic ^^) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lokie Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Yep Maggie would not have stood for it from this unelected Weasel, a good kick to the nuts (well a verbal one liner would have sorted him out) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Whatever happens, she won't be PM next time unless the deal is a gold plated success Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonmarleesco Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 7 hours ago, webfact said: No immediate comment was available from Juncker's office, which has a policy of not commenting on reports of meetings. As opposed to leaking comments. I doubt Juncker's office has any idea on what their policy is on anything - assuming that they do have a policy. And given his background, Juncker has to be the least trustworthy of the EUcrats - and that takes some doing. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonmarleesco Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 2 hours ago, mrfill said: She wasn't exactly dragged screaming into the job and even she is not stupid enough to think it would have been easy. You can bet she'll be considerably richer when she does go though and still trying to dress like some alluring siren, while looking like an air raid siren. '... she clings on to power with a cabinet of back stabbers, arse lickers and opportunists.' Six words, eleven syllables when one and five would have done perfectly well: politicians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonmarleesco Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 3 hours ago, Baerboxer said: To be fair, there's no evidence that Juncker leaked anything. If he wanted to leak things why would he choose just one regional German newspaper to do it? May certainly does appear haggard and after cocking up her snap election and getting shafted by the electorate, she clings on to power with a cabinet of back stabbers, arse lickers and opportunists. Hardly surprising then. Jucnker doesn't bother with these fleabag journalists so won't do them the respect of commenting. Don't blame him. But at some point he will make an example if they are lying. '... she clings on to power with a cabinet of back stabbers, arse lickers and opportunists.' Six words, eleven syllables when one and five would have done perfectly well: politicians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfill Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Lokie said: Yep Maggie would not have stood for it from this unelected Weasel, a good kick to the nuts (well a verbal one liner would have sorted him out) Except he WAS elected. On 15 July 2014, the European Parliament elected him with a majority of 422 votes from a total of 729 cast. That is the MEPs voting, who are all democratically elected in the nation states. Now then, tell me who decided that Johnson, Gove and Davies should be the Brexit negotiators? Not Parliament and not the people. It was the choice of May - one person. Is that democratic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfill Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 11 minutes ago, Jonmarleesco said: '... she clings on to power with a cabinet of back stabbers, arse lickers and opportunists.' Six words, eleven syllables when one and five would have done perfectly well: politicians. 'Politicians' is only four syllables. Where is the missing one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lokie Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Heard it all the other day when some bint was on the Beeb from 'Estonia' saying what they expect from the UK as per what was needed to pay to leave europe lol, F F S?? Get out and don't pay them a penny, let them do their damndest against us... bunch of hangers-on, just leave and SLAM the door on the way out, no pussy footing about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dundee48 Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Would expect nothing less from this POS juncker.Comes from a pissant little country known for giving massive tax breaks to big business(juncker the POS was in charge of Luxembourg while this was happening). A## hole of the highest order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dundee48 Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 5 hours ago, Lokie said: Heard it all the other day when some bint was on the Beeb from 'Estonia' saying what they expect from the UK as per what was needed to pay to leave europe lol, F F S?? Get out and don't pay them a penny, let them do their damndest against us... bunch of hangers-on, just leave and SLAM the door on the way out, no pussy footing about Estonia-hahahahahaha.Shit little countries getting ideas above their stations.The begging bowl mentality of these countries never ceases to amaze me. Nice avatar btw,you always have to `love thy neighbour` Best regards, Enoch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khun Han Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 10 hours ago, mrfill said: Except he WAS elected. On 15 July 2014, the European Parliament elected him with a majority of 422 votes from a total of 729 cast. That is the MEPs voting, who are all democratically elected in the nation states. Now then, tell me who decided that Johnson, Gove and Davies should be the Brexit negotiators? Not Parliament and not the people. It was the choice of May - one person. Is that democratic? The big problem with the EP is that it's make-up doesn't bear any resemblance to any of the EU's nation state parliaments. In national elections most people are informed enough to vote along lines that will give them a parliament at least somewhat that they expected. In EP elections, ridiculously low turnouts in the UK vote roughly along the same party political lines, putting about ten percent of the EP's MPs in place, with no input into the other approx ninety percent. So, no, your attempt to justify EP democracy simply doesn't cut it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfill Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 13 hours ago, Khun Han said: The big problem with the EP is that it's make-up doesn't bear any resemblance to any of the EU's nation state parliaments. In national elections most people are informed enough to vote along lines that will give them a parliament at least somewhat that they expected. In EP elections, ridiculously low turnouts in the UK vote roughly along the same party political lines, putting about ten percent of the EP's MPs in place, with no input into the other approx ninety percent. So, no, your attempt to justify EP democracy simply doesn't cut it. So because people can't be bothered to vote in Euro elections, it means you won't accept the democratic will of the people. Which other elections would you like to nullify on that basis? The last election for MEPs in the UK ended up with 26.6% UKIP (24 seats), Labour 24.43% (20 seats), Tory 23.05% (19 seats), Greens 6.91% (3 seats) and you reckon that is 'roughly along the same party political lines'? UKIP have exactly 0 MPs at Westminster. But I'm sure you'll invent some more stories to justify an untenable position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJAS Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 48 minutes ago, mrfill said: So because people can't be bothered to vote in Euro elections, it means you won't accept the democratic will of the people. Which other elections would you like to nullify on that basis? Bit of a rich statement coming from a Remoaner who would no doubt like the UK June 2016 referendum nullified, I think! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve187 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 On 10/23/2017 at 7:12 PM, mrfill said: Except he WAS elected. On 15 July 2014, the European Parliament elected him with a majority of 422 votes from a total of 729 cast. That is the MEPs voting, who are all democratically elected in the nation states. Now then, tell me who decided that Johnson, Gove and Davies should be the Brexit negotiators? Not Parliament and not the people. It was the choice of May - one person. Is that democratic? of course it is she is the PM, should the people appointed go to a referendum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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