Spud139 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Hi all, First post on here so be gentle with me. I'm interested in anyone's personal experience with prenuptial agreements in Thailand? In the UK they are pretty much not worth the paper they are written on. I'm wondering if this is the same for Thailand or do they actually have to abide by them if they are completed by a lawyer or company that is able to legally complete one. I've had my fingers burnt with an ex wife in the UK, probably the same scenario for most of you guys aswell. So I'm trying to prevent it from happening again if me and my current Thai girlfriend do decide to go down the marriage route. I've discussed it with her and she is willing to complete one. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer90210 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 (edited) If you both really care for each and other, why tie into further hassle ? The forum is full of tragic stories of farangs getting into trouble with their legally married Thai spouses and their families. As for the courts, in case of problems later on, not sure, but remember as a farang in Thailand you have dual pricing and.... dual justice !! Add property or vehicles in the girl's name and you double the risk. Not to mention the family maintenance issue. The main thing is to be together, is it not ? Welcome on your 1st post - enjoy !! Edited October 26, 2017 by observer90210 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strikingsunset Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Its not correct that ' in the Uk prenuptial contracts are not worth the paper they are written on' If the pre nup is dated at least 3 months prior to marriage,signed by both parties and witnessed by both parties lawyers the courts generally accept it.Though it is not written into statute yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catman20 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 to prevent it from happening again if me and my current Thai girlfriend do decide to go down the marriage route. easy dont get married again!!!! what this crap about if me and my Thai girlfriend do decide to go down the marriage route. lamb to slaughter comes to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
does Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 I agree with the two previous posters, but would add that if you do get married and have substantial assets, keep part of it abroad to make it uncontestable, make a will if you don't have one, and consult a lawyer who specialises in these cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiWai Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, observer90210 said: The main thing is to be together, is it not ? Not according to wide range of legal matters based on archaic laws based on "holy" books it's not. Edited October 27, 2017 by ThaiWai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murraynz Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 these days--any sensible person who has assets prior to a marriage---should be signing a pre-nup agreement...its got nothing to do with trust etc etc...just being realistic.. in nz they are "worth the paper theyre written on" ....both parties have to get indepent legal advice, before signing.. unfortunately the 50/50 system usually favours the female,. only a fool spends many years working hard to accumulate assets for a better life in retirement, only then to get married to somebody who has nothing..then...at a later date things go sour and they seperate....he can loose almost everything without a pre-nup.....how dumb is that....get real ,grow up, use your big head before signing marriage agreement.. any decent woman would accept a pre nup---if they dont --the reason is obvois--start running... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiWai Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 1 hour ago, catman20 said: to prevent it from happening again if me and my current Thai girlfriend do decide to go down the marriage route. easy dont get married again!!!! what this crap about if me and my Thai girlfriend do decide to go down the marriage route. lamb to slaughter comes to mind. I don't want to send my "girlfriend" to the reading of my will and distribution of assets. My last act should not be an insult to the person who loves me most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony125 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, ThaiWai said: I don't want to send my "girlfriend" to the reading of my will and distribution of assets. My last act should not be an insult to the person who loves me most. You say loves you the most, how many guys who married said the same and then later have "the one who loves them the most " taken off with another man or just left them trying to take them for everything they can. There is simply a reason for being cautious. If things are fine then you have a will and she gets everything you want her to have but if she tries to dump you screw you over later you have made precautions so she will get a fair amount but can't take everything if her "love" turns to hate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony125 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 (edited) At the top of the page there is a search bar simply put in Prenup in Thailand or Thai Prenup and you will see many topics on it. They are valid in Thailand but a judge will make the final decision during divorce if he thinks it's vicious or trying to harm or hurt the spouse and deny her legal rights the way it is written. Can also "Google" Thai Prenup and get information. The prenup must be handed in at the time of marriage register . Section 1466. The ante-nuptial agreement is void if not entered in the Marriage Register at the time of marriage registration terms of the ante-nuptial; or if not made in writing and signed by both spouses and by at least two witnesses and entered in the Marriage Register at the time of marriage registration stating that the ante-nuptial is thereto annexed. Edited October 27, 2017 by Tony125 added info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenchair Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 8 hours ago, observer90210 said: If you both really care for each and other, why tie into further hassle ? The forum is full of tragic stories of farangs getting into trouble with their legally married Thai spouses and their families. As for the courts, in case of problems later on, not sure, but remember as a farang in Thailand you have dual pricing and.... dual justice !! Add property or vehicles in the girl's name and you double the risk. Not to mention the family maintenance issue. The main thing is to be together, is it not ? Welcome on your 1st post - enjoy !! Well the way to be together is to get a marriage visa is it not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikiea Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 3 hours ago, ThaiWai said: Not according to wide range of legal matters based on archaic laws based on "holy" books it's not. huh ? you still read and listen to that crapolla ? be what you want to be , do what you want to do .... all is well as long as others are not hurt by your actions . oh , and i do not count prospective butt hurt leach in-laws . bada bada bing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portroyal Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Don’t worry, do marry ! Good for the financial status of The Kingdom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4MyEgo Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 (edited) For what its worth, married in Australia in 2007, prenuptial agreements are part of the Family Law Act, so they are good as gold, this is where in the UK the system lets you guys down as its not part of the Family Law Act, which sucks. I married in Thailand same year also, village ceremony and recognised at the local Amphur, suffice to say we haven't entered into any agreement of such, except that I would walk away with a couple of suitcases, she gets the house, the car the bike and everything that goes with it, including the kitchen sink, in % terms, 10% of my worth over the 10 years we have been married, she also gets the 4 kids and naturally I would support her in maintaining an average lifestyle for the kids, say 30,000 baht per month. My assets have always remained overseas, not that she will have a go, but with the prenuptial she signed, would be pretty hard. I believe that you can get a prenuptial in Thailand, but you are a foreigner and will be treated as one, what I would suggest is that you leave your assets back home, only bring with you, what you are prepared to lose, keep separate bank accounts and rent, sometimes its cheaper to rent than buy, especially if things go pear shape, she gets nothing, you get nothing, but you have a strong fall back position without even having to argue with lawyers or courts for what was rightfully yours in the first place. To many guys make the mistake of getting their finances involved in "love", wrong, separate love from your finances and you hold the balance of power, women are thinkers, and cunning, playful, bubbly, and can also be very dangerous, why on earth would someone want to gamble everything they have to a woman. Someone once said to me, if they didn't have a camel toe you would stand on the opposite side of the road and throw bricks at them, a bit far fetched, but see the point in a round about way. I respect blokes who hold the stick, the power, not the push over guys who trust their partners with their finances, love my Mrs, she is my best mate, but I wouldn't trust my best mate with my finances, let alone with my Mrs. Good luck and welcome to the forum. Edited October 27, 2017 by 4MyEgo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiWai Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 8 hours ago, Tony125 said: You say loves you the most, how many guys who married said the same and then later have "the one who loves them the most " taken off with another man or just left them trying to take them for everything they can. There is simply a reason for being cautious. If things are fine then you have a will and she gets everything you want her to have but if she tries to dump you screw you over later you have made precautions so she will get a fair amount but can't take everything if her "love" turns to hate. I don't think you are understanding what I am replying to. I agree with prenups. I disagree with having a life partner maintain the reduced status of GF for her lifetime. Go back and have a re-read in sequence and notice my "like" of the post advocating prenups and why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiWai Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 5 hours ago, mikiea said: huh ? you still read and listen to that crapolla ? be what you want to be , do what you want to do .... all is well as long as others are not hurt by your actions . oh , and i do not count prospective butt hurt leach in-laws . bada bada bing You're not too sharp with the reading comprehension huh? In many aspects of life, if one is not legally married the partner is considered persona non grata. This is because relationships recognized outside some form of holy matrimony are considered to be less then "real" or "valid" because of ancient history recorded in fictional texts written by cave dwellers who believed in magical men in the sky. I do not support these beliefs or any laws made with a basis in religious mentality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catman20 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 21 hours ago, ThaiWai said: I don't want to send my "girlfriend" to the reading of my will and distribution of assets. My last act should not be an insult to the person who loves me most. My last act should not be an insult to the person who I THINK AND HOPES she loves me the most if you marry her thats exactly what you may be doing sending her to hear the distribution of your assets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikiea Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 On 10/27/2017 at 5:44 PM, ThaiWai said: You're not too sharp with the reading comprehension huh? In many aspects of life, if one is not legally married the partner is considered persona non grata. This is because relationships recognized outside some form of holy matrimony are considered to be less then "real" or "valid" because of ancient history recorded in fictional texts written by cave dwellers who believed in magical men in the sky. I do not support these beliefs or any laws made with a basis in religious mentality. hahah hahah bhaha you just made up a b/s story . i think you like to impress people with your babbly-d-goog , hahaha hahaha , its ok , i enjoy reading it ....hahah ghhaaahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thongkorn Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 If you need reassuring , dont Marry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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