Took Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Hi, This is the topic that must of been talked about so many times before and I know the rules and regulations will change very soon and often in Thailand, but I've heard about the stories that you can get a waiver twice for 4 years or three times for 6 years at most. I do know one teacher who's got the 5th one now but has been told by TCT that that's going to be the last one. Mine is my 3rd one, and it will not even have been 4 years since I got my 1st one when my current waiver expires in about a year and a half. Would you think it possible for me to get the 4th one with the school where I'm working? Thank you in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aidenai Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Quote Section 46 of the Teachers and Educational Personnel Council Act, B.E. 2546 (2003) forbids any person from claiming the right to teach or to practice the teaching profession without being licensed by the Teachers’ Council. Educational institutions are also forbidden to employ as teachers anyone who is not specifically licensed or granted explicit permission by the Teachers’ Council.In view of the requirements of educational institutions in developing educational programs, there is a need for foreign teachers to engage in instruction and supervise study in said institutions. The head of an educational institution must state the intent to the Teachers’ Council of Thailand, to employ an individual to fill a teaching vacancy when a licensed teacher cannot be employed if the criteria and conditions given below are satisfactorily met.1. Criteria for Granting of Permission Foreigners who are not holders of professional teachers’ licenses can be employed as teachers provided that they are qualified according to the following: 1.1 Not younger than 20 years of age 1.2 Satisfy one of the following requirements: (1) Have qualifications not less than that of being holders of a degree in education or its equivalent or (2) Have qualifications not less than that of being holders of a bachelor’s degree in an area needed by an educational institution requiring carrying out teaching duties or (3) Are not holders of a degree, and they hold a teaching license from another country 1.3 Are devoid of prohibited personal attributes as specified in Section 44 (B) of the Teachers and Educational Personnel Council Act, B.E. 2546 (2003)2. Conditions for granting permission are as follows: 2.1 Educational institutions must request permission in specific cases. Foreigners must teach in educational institutions under the control of the head of educational institutions of said educational institutions in accordance with the conditions specified in their teaching permit. 2.2 No more than two years can be allowed in a single permission period and can be extended for a total period of not more than six years. 2.3 The person granted permission to teach is required to satisfy professional qualifications for a teaching license within a period of six years from the first permission of teaching permit. 2.4 If the person granted permission to teach violates professional ethics, does not adhere to the conditions specified, or does not satisfy the professional development standards, conditions and methods specified by the Teachers’ Council of Thailand, said person’s permission to teach shall be revoked. http://site.ksp.or.th/about.php?site=license&SiteMenuID=221 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aidenai Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 19 hours ago, Took said: Would you think it possible for me to get the 4th one with the school where I'm working? I think only when you enroll a graduate diploma in teaching/ education course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Took Posted November 13, 2017 Author Share Posted November 13, 2017 Hi, Thank you for your reply. As regard to this article ' 2.2 No more than two years can be allowed in a single permission period and can be extended for a total period of not more than six years.', would you think that this is my last waiver or I can apply for the next one, considering these two points? 1) this is my 3rd waiver but I didn't used up either of my 1st or 2nd ones 2) it won't even have been 4 years since I got my 1st one, when my current one expires in about 1.5 years. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonray Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 37 minutes ago, Took said: Hi, Thank you for your reply. As regard to this article ' 2.2 No more than two years can be allowed in a single permission period and can be extended for a total period of not more than six years.', would you think that this is my last waiver or I can apply for the next one, considering these two points? 1) this is my 3rd waiver but I didn't used up either of my 1st or 2nd ones 2) it won't even have been 4 years since I got my 1st one, when my current one expires in about 1.5 years. Thank you. If you did not use up your first or second it means you switched schools ? That still means they are used up I believe, does not matter if you decided to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Took Posted November 13, 2017 Author Share Posted November 13, 2017 Hi, Thank you for your comment. That's what I've been curious to know. Yes, this is my 3rd waiver with my 3rd school, as you guessed, so it should be my last one before I leave Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 I'm on my 5th waiver. There is no limit, this is Thailand remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Took Posted November 14, 2017 Author Share Posted November 14, 2017 Hi, Exactly! I'll see what happens because T I T !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aidenai Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 On 11/13/2017 at 8:41 PM, Neeranam said: I'm on my 5th waiver. There is no limit, this is Thailand remember. You're lucky, Neeranam. Some foreign teachers get their fifth temporary teaching permit while others can't get more than three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Took Posted November 15, 2017 Author Share Posted November 15, 2017 I know some teachers who were not allowed more than one, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimcarr65 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 I got 3 and left and got a job back home and considered it a 3 year vacation. You are taking a gamble after 3 and not worth the stress in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newatthis Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 On 11/13/2017 at 5:17 PM, Took said: Hi, Thank you for your comment. That's what I've been curious to know. Yes, this is my 3rd waiver with my 3rd school, as you guessed, so it should be my last one before I leave Thailand. It could be your last one, Took. If you had stayed at the same school, it would be easier to get a 4th waiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Took Posted November 16, 2017 Author Share Posted November 16, 2017 Hi, Thanks very much for your comment. One thing for sure is this is going to be my last school to teach in Thailand and I’ve still got about 1.5yrs left on my 3rd waiver. It’d be nice if I could get my 4th waiver with the school with which my 3rd waiver is now, but I’m ready to leave Thailand if I can’t get the 4th one when my current waiver expires no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newatthis Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 On 11/16/2017 at 10:58 AM, Took said: Hi, Thanks very much for your comment. One thing for sure is this is going to be my last school to teach in Thailand and I’ve still got about 1.5yrs left on my 3rd waiver. It’d be nice if I could get my 4th waiver with the school with which my 3rd waiver is now, but I’m ready to leave Thailand if I can’t get the 4th one when my current waiver expires no problem. If you're serious about staying, you could join up and read info on this website. http://www.thailandteaching.info I'm retired now, but many on that website talked about doing a course on-line with IFSU. It seems that it is acceptable to Khurusapa. All the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Took Posted November 17, 2017 Author Share Posted November 17, 2017 Hi, Thank you for your invitation. However, I'm not going to take any course to try to get another waiver or a Thai teacher's lisence. If I can't get a 4th waiver, I'll then leave. I'll see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPatrickThai Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 On 11/15/2017 at 9:34 AM, Took said: I know some teachers who were not allowed more than one, though. it a method that schools use to get rid of teacher, without them having to worry about paying severance pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozmeldo Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 My guess is five. I've had four. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozmeldo Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 6 hours ago, MrPatrickThai said: it a method that schools use to get rid of teacher, without them having to worry about paying severance pay. Bologna Schools don't let good teachers go unless it's a pay issue. Still, the teacher will walk. Utter nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Took Posted November 19, 2017 Author Share Posted November 19, 2017 I'd think that some good teachers could get up to 5. As I said in the post earlier, I know one teacher who has got a 5th waiver now but has already been told by TCT that it's going to be the last one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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