webfact Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Swiss man gets bashed after turning off noisy bike Picture: video screenshot A tourist from Switzerland said he was assaulted after he turned off a motorcycle belonging to someone he didn't know, reported the We Love Pattaya page on Facebook. Adreas Lechne, 55, was stopping at a BBQ chicken stall at the end of Soi 16 on Sai 2 to get a late night snack when he was annoyed by the bike with the engine left running next to the stall. A 25 - 30 year old Thai man came back and gave him a whack then went down the soi on his bike and returned armed with a stick. He then knocked the tourist to the ground leaving him covered in blood. Sawang Boriboon medics treated the tourist at the scene and police are studying CCTV to get a lead. Many posters on Facebook said he was asking for trouble turning off someone else's bike. Source: 'We Love Pattaya' Facebook -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2017-11-27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMuhammad Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Don’t mess with people’s belongings. Fair enough it was noisy but you’re just asking for trouble doing something like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bowman Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Nice t-shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Bad move Swiss bloke.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samsensam Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 i used to work in mongolia; if you touch someone's hat it's fighting time. if your feet touch someone else's, usually on public transport, you'd better apologise or else... i wouldn't touch someone's bike back home and certainly wouldn't here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bert bloggs Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Bloody tourists , get it ,Bloody lol sorry ime in a funny mood this morning . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenKong Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, samsensam said: i used to work in mongolia; if you touch someone's hat it's fighting time. if your feet touch someone else's, usually on public transport, you'd better apologise or else... OK, so now we know that Mongolia has plenty of thugs, just like Thailand. But does that alter the basic fact that the Thai guy's motorbike was too loud and running for no reason? No, it doesnt. In a civilised country the police would be around to fine people with noisy bikes, so the problem would simply not arise at all. Here it is considered normal to make pointless noise and to disturb others, and equally normal to hit people. For me that's just animal behaviour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 1 minute ago, KittenKong said: OK, so now we know that Mongolia has plenty of thugs, just like Thailand. But does that alter the basic fact that the Thai guy's motorbike was too loud and running for no reason? No, it doesnt. In a civilised country the police would be around to fine people with noisy bikes, so the problem would simply not arise at all. Here it is considered normal to make pointless noise and to disturb others, and equally normal to hit people. For me that's just animal behaviour. In farangland we do have noisy bikes and cars..I had both... Though the bike guy was inconsiderate in this case, NOBODY should interfere with another's transport.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckamuck Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 A response easy to anticipate any country. The guys with noisy bikes are generally overcompensating and likely to be violent. Transam being an exception of course I am sure he never left his ride rumbling and popping right were everyday folk were conducting business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebell Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 After barking dogs, look-at-me bikes are my favourite hate. The noise is mere attention-seeking like the boom-boxes AKA pick-ups. The extra noise does not make the bike go faster; is not fuel-efficient (quite the contrary); merely confirms that Thais cannot cope with silence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCC1701A Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 the motorcycle owner is in the wrong. unprovoked violent attack. one year in prison. next case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatwhitenorth Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 38 minutes ago, KittenKong said: OK, so now we know that Mongolia has plenty of thugs, just like Thailand. But does that alter the basic fact that the Thai guy's motorbike was too loud and running for no reason? No, it doesnt. In a civilised country the police would be around to fine people with noisy bikes, so the problem would simply not arise at all. Here it is considered normal to make pointless noise and to disturb others, and equally normal to hit people. For me that's just animal behaviour. Why would you choose to live in a country that you have so little respect for the people? sounds like grumpy old man talk to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norrad Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Swiss people really seem to hate noise. I had a similar experience with a guy from Switzerland while I was staying at a resort on Samui. I went to pick up a girl who was staying in a bungalow next door to the one a Swiss guy was staying in. I was on my unmodded CBR300 which is not a noisy bike, especially when idling, and the guy shouted at me to turn my f***ing bike off, rushed down and grabbed the front of my helmet and proceeded to try pulling me off my bike. He was about 70 years old, so I didn't get physical with him, but I did verbally lay into him. An American guy in another bungalow also came and let the old coot have a piece of his mind, as apparently the guy would run over to his bungalow and bash on the door and windows if the TV was too loud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 5 minutes ago, Norrad said: Swiss people really seem to hate noise. I had a similar experience with a guy from Switzerland while I was staying at a resort on Samui. I went to pick up a girl who was staying in a bungalow next door to the one a Swiss guy was staying in. ...really, what happened next ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norrad Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 1 minute ago, sanemax said: ...really, what happened next ? The usual island life stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatteoBassini Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 59 minutes ago, KittenKong said: OK, so now we know that Mongolia has plenty of thugs, just like Thailand. But does that alter the basic fact that the Thai guy's motorbike was too loud and running for no reason? No, it doesnt. In a civilised country the police would be around to fine people with noisy bikes, so the problem would simply not arise at all. Here it is considered normal to make pointless noise and to disturb others, and equally normal to hit people. For me that's just animal behaviour. Guess you don't come from a developed country then? There are only a few countries in Europe that actually fine people for having noisy bikes, Switzerland being one of them, but they're more concerned with people removing the catalytic converter than the noise itself, as removing the catalytic converter is one of the reasons why it becomes louder. In the UK and other countries in Europe you'll never get fined for having a loud motorcycle. Thailand is actually very strict in this regard, people get fined for having loud motorcycles all the time, given that it is above 95 decibels. A 90 decibel pipe may be super loud to you, but they wouldn't be fined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanleycoin Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Most of the time , it's best to vote with your feet. in this town. but, if you want to start messing about with other peoples bikes or cars, you better get ready for a negative response Thought people from Switzerland were reasonably smart, guess I was wrong. Nice T shirt for a 55 year old guy, on holiday, minding his own business. Next Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norrad Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 1 minute ago, MatteoBassini said: In the UK and other countries in Europe you'll never get fined for having a loud motorcycle. Thailand is actually very strict in this regard, people get fined for having loud motorcycles all the time, given that it is above 95 decibels. A 90 decibel pipe may be super loud to you, but they wouldn't be fined. Exactly and even a modded bike while idling is not that loud. The Swiss guy was just looking for trouble when he started messing with someone else's property, it's similar to walking into someones house and turning down their TV while the owner is outside watering the garden. Hopefully he learned his lesson and won't do something stupid again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanleycoin Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 7 minutes ago, MatteoBassini said: Thailand is actually very strict in this regard, people get fined for having loud motorcycles all the time, given that it is above 95 decibels. A 90 decibel pipe may be super loud to you, but they wouldn't be fined. Yes, but not in this town, its a free for all, all day and all night long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YetAnother Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 1 hour ago, KittenKong said: Here it is considered normal to make pointless noise and to disturb others, and equally normal to hit people. a primitiveness sometimes displayed by thais; ingrained in their culture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luis888 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 1 hour ago, mikebell said: After barking dogs, look-at-me bikes are my favourite hate. The noise is mere attention-seeking like the boom-boxes AKA pick-ups. The extra noise does not make the bike go faster; is not fuel-efficient (quite the contrary); merely confirms that Thais cannot cope with silence. I hate barking dogs too but disagree about noisy exhaust (up to a point). I beleive "loud pipes saves lives" on a motorcycle. Having said that, it doesn't mean you must go around revving the bike just for the hell of it. Getting back to topic, I feel the guy was wrong to switch off the guys bike, if it bothered him, he should've looked for the owner and asked him to switch it off. That's how to deal with the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happyman108 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 1 hour ago, NCC1701A said: the motorcycle owner is in the wrong. unprovoked violent attack. one year in prison. next case. the motorcycle owner is in the wrong. unprovoked violent attack. 500 baht fine. next case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 20 minutes ago, Norrad said: Exactly and even a modded bike while idling is not that loud. The Swiss guy was just looking for trouble when he started messing with someone else's property, it's similar to walking into someones house and turning down their TV while the owner is outside watering the garden. Hopefully he learned his lesson and won't do something stupid again. It is nothing like walking onto private property to turn off a guy's TV. The bike was on public property, creating a public nuisance. BTW, back home the bike owner would have been fined just for leaving the keys in the ignition. Even bigger fine for leaving it running unattended, no matter how quiet it is. Then the cops would have revved it up and fined him again for loud pipes. What the Swiss guy did wasn't wise, but it certainly didn't warrant physical violence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLang Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Put on his @ss by a little Thai bloke 5555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, DLang said: Put on his @ss by a little Thai bloke 5555 Perhaps he was smart enough to realize that he couldn't win a fight once the Thai guy's dozen buddies piled on, as often happens. Better a bloody shirt and a slice of humble pie than a trip to the hospital or the morgue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geriatrickid Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 1 hour ago, transam said: In farangland we do have noisy bikes and cars..I had both... Though the bike guy was inconsiderate in this case, NOBODY should interfere with another's transport.. I get it, but I understand the Swiss guy. Swiss culture is one of not disturbing others. They make for good neighbors because being noisy is not Swiss. We can say he was wrong and all that stuff, but beating someone's head for this isn't acceptable. Unfortunately, Thailand's lower classes are borderline savage and this is why the hiso's treat them so roughly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, geriatrickid said: I get it, but I understand the Swiss guy. Swiss culture is one of not disturbing others. They make for good neighbors because being noisy is not Swiss. We can say he was wrong and all that stuff, but beating someone's head for this isn't acceptable. Unfortunately, Thailand's lower classes are borderline savage and this is why the hiso's treat them so roughly. Then the Swiss guy should do his homework before venturing outside his perfect homeland.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jools Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Norrad said: Swiss people really seem to hate noise. I had a similar experience with a guy from Switzerland while I was staying at a resort on Samui. I went to pick up a girl who was staying in a bungalow next door to the one a Swiss guy was staying in. I was on my unmodded CBR300 which is not a noisy bike, especially when idling, and the guy shouted at me to turn my f***ing bike off, rushed down and grabbed the front of my helmet and proceeded to try pulling me off my bike. He was about 70 years old, so I didn't get physical with him, but I did verbally lay into him. An American guy in another bungalow also came and let the old coot have a piece of his mind, as apparently the guy would run over to his bungalow and bash on the door and windows if the TV was too loud. Being 70 years old is no barrier to a bashing in Thailand. Makes the odds better for your attackers, who will usually number at LEAST 12. Fair fight in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron19 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 A post in bad taste has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norrad Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 28 minutes ago, impulse said: It is nothing like walking onto private property to turn off a guy's TV. The bike was on public property, creating a public nuisance. OK let's work with your example here. The bike is private property whether it is on public property or not. So by your reasoning if someone parks their car or camper-van on public property (maybe in a parking spot on the road outside their house, then anyone can climb in and do with it as they please? After all the mere sight of it might annoy someone or heaven forbid, block someones view... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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