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Pattaya moans: Nothing but rude Indians, Chinese and Arabs - "they treat the place like they own it"

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7 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Well, as reported on the Hit and Run Restaurant Review thread I can report that many Chinese tourists are spending lots of money at good and rather expensive Chinese restaurants. So the people whining, maybe it's time to change their business model and try to sell them something they actually want!

Never been in China , but in the many countries i have been , i have never heard of such a thing as 'Luxury Chinese Restaurant'. Even in some cities like Malaga where a lot of Chinese open business , none of the Chinese restaurants i have been had anything upmarket , as opposed to the Japanese restaurant ( where Chinese where working )

There is always this dream that well off people like to take a plane and go to a city with overall low standards to eat in a luxury restaurant. I still have never seen a luxury yatch near the peer. But i did see many in Malaga , with helicopter on top. Pattaya offers nothing to the jet set  and rich guy screw top models.

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11 hours ago, hobz said:

The exchange rate EUR/THB has not changed that much... It had a peak around 50THB sometime 2008,, but since then it's been pretty steady around 40THB .. I think there must be something else at work....?

Something like inflation maybe ... What could get you a 100 sqm condo 10 years ago , now you get 20 sqm 

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14 hours ago, Thai Ron said:

Hilarious

They do spend money - they just don't spend it on whores.

The only people complaining are the ones who used to focus on the farang pissheads and sex tourists from the West.

The hotels ain't bitching, neither are the restaurants.

If your hostess bar or happy ending massage dump isn't making bank any more, change your business.

 

 

14 hours ago, Thai Ron said:

Hilarious

They do spend money - they just don't spend it on whores.

The only people complaining are the ones who used to focus on the farang pissheads and sex tourists from the West.

The hotels ain't bitching, neither are the restaurants.

If your hostess bar or happy ending massage dump isn't making bank any more, change your business.

 

Restaurants for sale on Naklua. Bon Cafe was overall less crowded than before.

When i go to a nice Pizzeria i mostly see Westerners , Indian dont eat cow ( holy animal ) and meat in general so they avoid Steak Houses and the like.

Stop me if i am wrong but if you dont spend on Steak House , or Japanese , where do you spend it? You quickly get full with Thai food or Chinese and it is not really expensive.

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1 hour ago, jacko45k said:

Living in Pattaya? No, I don't believe that criminals and pedophiles from the West, constitutes the VAST majority. Certainly not within the group I believe you mean here, Western Expats. Most are retired old guys, living with a Thai wife.

Do you live here yourself to make such a sweeping statement?

Where did I say peadophiles ? Well yes I have quite a few acquaintances who own businesses (some of the biggest on walking street ) that were funded through drug deals in their own country . Thailand is a great country to get rid of dirty money if you know the right people ?

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19 minutes ago, chrisandsu said:

Where did I say peadophiles ? Well yes I have quite a few acquaintances who own businesses (some of the biggest on walking street ) that were funded through drug deals in their own country . Thailand is a great country to get rid of dirty money if you know the right people ?

It was in the very post you quoted and referred to as the 'vast majority'....

Thailand is a great place to get rid of any money I believe.

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6 minutes ago, chrisandsu said:

Gotcha I stand corrected . My terminology was off . There is a few pedophiles . There is a ton of criminals . When you see guys in there 30/40s who have no visible form of income you can betcha boots they have their fingers in a few pies . What was once the Costa del crime / Cuba is now firmly Pattaya .    

Yes, the "playtex Bra syndrome" No visible means of support.

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10 minutes ago, chrisandsu said:

Gotcha I stand corrected . My terminology was off . There is a few pedophiles . There is a ton of criminals . When you see guys in there 30/40s who have no visible form of income you can betcha boots they have their fingers in a few pies . What was once the Costa del crime / Cuba is now firmly Pattaya .    

Yes, I don't deny what you say. But I like to think this is a small percentage of Westerners living long term in town. Most are older retirees, who, like myself, keep their fingers out of pies......:smile:

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1 hour ago, bodymassagemyfriend said:

Never been in China , but in the many countries i have been , i have never heard of such a thing as 'Luxury Chinese Restaurant'. Even in some cities like Malaga where a lot of Chinese open business , none of the Chinese restaurants i have been had anything upmarket , as opposed to the Japanese restaurant ( where Chinese where working )

There is always this dream that well off people like to take a plane and go to a city with overall low standards to eat in a luxury restaurant. I still have never seen a luxury yatch near the peer. But i did see many in Malaga , with helicopter on top. Pattaya offers nothing to the jet set  and rich guy screw top models.

 

I lived there for 10 years, and I can show you some Chinese restaurants where you can't eat (including Maotai) for less than $200-300 USD a head.  There are quite a few in Bangkok, as well.  You and I will never even know about them, because we're not their target demographic.

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1 minute ago, chrisandsu said:

Whatever happened to the guy who got topped in the boiler room scam scenario ?

Exactly, As much as dont like the generalisations, Indians do this, Russians do that etc. There is that demographic of guys in their 30/40s, no means of support, expensive house car , idolise the Kray brothers etc. It doesnt add up.

Its not a sly teaching job and visa runs, its usually (comes to pass) some hardcore criminal stuff.

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14 minutes ago, Peterw42 said:

Exactly, As much as dont like the generalisations, Indians do this, Russians do that etc. There is that demographic of guys in their 30/40s, no means of support, expensive house car , idolise the Kray brothers etc. It doesnt add up.

Its not a sly teaching job and visa runs, its usually (comes to pass) some hardcore criminal stuff.

Russian , Turkish , Dutch , British so forth are all here it’s a nice freternity of the crime melting pot . The money is easy come easy go . When they fall

out they all threaten each other with a general who has been creaming profits off the top . Do you think anyone is going to investigate ? It’s almost laughable how easy it is to do that type of business in Pattaya 

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43 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

Yes, I don't deny what you say. But I like to think this is a small percentage of Westerners living long term in town. Most are older retirees, who, like myself, keep their fingers out of pies......:smile:

Keep them

in the right pies ?

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2 hours ago, bodymassagemyfriend said:

Something like inflation maybe ... What could get you a 100 sqm condo 10 years ago , now you get 20 sqm 

Yeah, and same goes for all other prices right?

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22 hours ago, lonewolf99 said:

Anyone want to add to this list of only a few reasons why the Westerners are not coming in the numbers they did in say 2005?

 

Overly strong Baht.

Too many scams.

Blinkered tourist board courting the wrong nationalities  i.e. now over run with Chinese, Indians, Middle Eastern, Madagascans ?

Not listening to advise from Westerners already in LoS.

Filthy beaches and Sois.

As mentioned, bag snatching.

Brutal unprovoked assaults.

Deadly roads.

Ineffective Policing combined with corruption.

Unsafe balconies........

Junta.

Restrictive legitimate Visas for extended periods.

Obese gogo dancers and bar girls...............

 

 

 

Nicer places elsewhere.

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