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"Foreigners against smoking ban" video hits the internet as authorities scurry to explain

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1 hour ago, Srikcir said:
1 hour ago, zoza said:

America you are not allowed to smoke in public by law.

Misleading as a general remark.

It's enclosed public places and certain inside workplaces such as bars.

https://www.tobaccofreekids.org/assets/factsheets/0332.pdf

Such is not the same as Thailand where smoking is being banned outdoors. Nor is it being done for health reasons. In fact by forcing smokers into small enclosures at the beaches, smokers face greater dangers to their health.

 

60 out of 72 of America's largest Cities ban smoking in Bars and Restaurant's

the 12 others are mainly in southern states. so yes not a total ban

yes forcing the poor smokers into small enclosures and making them breathe in

all their own smoke alone is wrong.....lol maybe they should think about packing

in or going for a nice stroll away from the busy parts of the beach, that would be

beneficial to all parties and obviously keep their stumps in their swimsuits...  

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2 hours ago, ClutchClark said:

 

Maybe something has been lost in translation but smoking bans are for non-smokers health. If smokers were concerned about their own health then they would not be smoking.

You are missing the point; it's easy to do on these sorts of threads. The smoking ban is primarily about littering on the beach, ostensibly anyway. 

 

But if it were about the dangers of second hand smoke there is no case.  The dangers of passive smoking have been greatly over-egged as real studies show, and really don't exist on the beach, or anywhere outside.

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1 hour ago, 4MyEgo said:

Still don't like the smell of it, sends me into a coughing fit and leaves my throat with this dryness if that makes sense, i.e. like some layer around it that makes it feel as if something is coated on it, who knows, I could be allergic to cigarette smoke ? 

 

Just walking around with irritation from borderline allergies like many of us, waiting to stumble in to a trigger, which could come from any number of causes.  Make sense?

 

The real problem is air pollution.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, mommysboy said:

You are missing the point; it's easy to do on these sorts of threads. The smoking ban is primarily about littering on the beach, ostensibly anyway. 

 

But if it were about the dangers of second hand smoke there is no case.  The dangers of passive smoking have been greatly over-egged as real studies show, and really don't exist on the beach, or anywhere outside.

I remember this back home, my forefathers spent many years of their lives living with these conditions, plus many smoked...Most lived till their late eighties and nineties, not one passed on with lung cancer...Perhaps good genes...:stoner:

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On 08/12/2017 at 7:18 AM, mark01 said:

Far more effective would have been to just install ashtrays.

Far more beneficial would be to stop litter and build an effective drainage system instead of skimming off all the money.

Far more efficient would habe been to educat smokers ,  when i eat a candy i am not dropping the paper on the ground , arguing that i dont have a trashcan walking next to me.

Smokers should have a portable ashtrays , this would also prevent them for smoking a lot.

Each time you give people the freedom to abuse of it. I am sure 99% if i drop a paper on the floor , smoker will tell me i am dirty , while they look at me and put their foot on the cigarette butt on the floor.

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8 minutes ago, bodymassagemyfriend said:

Far more efficient would habe been to educat smokers ,  when i eat a candy i am not dropping the paper on the ground , arguing that i dont have a trashcan walking next to me.

Smokers should have a portable ashtrays , this would also prevent them for smoking a lot.

Each time you give people the freedom to abuse of it. I am sure 99% if i drop a paper on the floor , smoker will tell me i am dirty , while they look at me and put their foot on the cigarette butt on the floor.

An utterly imagined scenario.

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4 hours ago, zoza said:

60 out of 72 of America's largest Cities ban smoking in Bars and Restaurant's

the 12 others are mainly in southern states. so yes not a total ban

yes forcing the poor smokers into small enclosures and making them breathe in

all their own smoke alone is wrong.....lol maybe they should think about packing

in or going for a nice stroll away from the busy parts of the beach, that would be

beneficial to all parties and obviously keep their stumps in their swimsuits...  

Or maybe the authorities can simply provide butt disposal containers and/or sweep the beach each morning to leave a tourist-friendly beach environment. Why pick a fight with an industry that is one of the few contributors to the nation's higher GDP growth, from 10% in 2012 to 17% now?

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15 hours ago, ChiangMaiLightning2143 said:

15 pages of moaning will change nothing. Do you respect Thai law or not?

Smoke on Pattaya beaches 1 year jail or 100,000 Bahts fine. If you have a problem with this go back to your country,  or go to Cambodia or Vietnam. Good riddance you are not wanted here on beaches with a ciggy dangling from your stinking gob.

Smoke on Pattaya beaches 1 year jail or 100,000 Bahts fine. If you have a problem with this go back to your country

 

Yet another one adds a scintillating comment to the thread!

 

 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Srikcir said:

Or maybe the authorities can simply provide butt disposal containers and/or sweep the beach each morning to leave a tourist-friendly beach environment. Why pick a fight with an industry that is one of the few contributors to the nation's higher GDP growth, from 10% in 2012 to 17% now?

I come from a seaside town.  The beach is cleaned every evening during high season; all sorts of rubbish gets turned up, with broken glass and needles being the most hazardous.  I'm surprised the authorities don't do this.  To pick on one small cohort as the root of all evil is kind of cranky, but what do you expect?...

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8 minutes ago, Srikcir said:

Or maybe the authorities can simply provide butt disposal containers and/or sweep the beach each morning to leave a tourist-friendly beach environment. Why pick a fight with an industry that is one of the few contributors to the nation's higher GDP growth, from 10% in 2012 to 17% now?

From a previous post, they don't know how to clean the beach!!!

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1 hour ago, Srikcir said:

butt disposal containers

What a novel idea!

 

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19 minutes ago, sambum said:

Do you respect Thai law or not?

Yes, to a point, but do the Thais.  Once they respect the law then visitors would have more respect.  Just now they provide a bad example and is naturally copied by visitors.  "When in Rome do as the Romans do!"

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17 hours ago, GOLDBUGGY said:

Let me tell you what bugs me. People always trying to tell me how I should live my life and what I have to do and how I should quit smoking, when in reality it is none of there damned business what I do.

Oh I just love to hear this sentence from smokers. It confirms what I wrote. They are rude enough to annoy everybody around them with their stench, but feel oppressed if the vast and annoyed majority of non-smokers pass a law against it.

And react like a 12-year old. You're not my father, you can't tell me what to yadda, yadda...

No, you can live your life however you want to. As long as you allow the same to everybody else. And if the majority chooses to live their lifes without beeing bothered by cigarette smoke, then smoke where you don't disturb anyone.

 

My freedom to swing my fists ends where my neighbours nose beginns. Incidently... so does your freedom to spread your carcinogenic fumes.

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On 12/9/2017 at 2:13 AM, 4MyEgo said:

Haven't smelt the smoke from a pipe since when my dad was alive, didn't mind it back then, but couldn't tell you today, although I don't believe the smell of tobacco from a pipe would trigger coughing attacks or irritate one ?

I get compliments from some passerby, women included. Cherry almond. Good tobacco that I have to bring over. The stuff they sell here, even in best of places, is awful.

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2 hours ago, sambum said:

Smoke on Pattaya beaches 1 year jail or 100,000 Bahts fine. If you have a problem with this go back to your country

 

Yet another one adds a scintillating comment to the thread!

 

 

 

 

In response to the screeching nutcase at top, he says if you don't like the law then leave. The former law was you could smoke on the beach. Did he leave? No, he was barking at legal smokers, spittle flying, wanting everything 100% his way.

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