dick dasterdly Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Just now, 55Jay said: Didn't he wind up as a peace envoy of some kind for the middle east? Wonder how that's going? You have to remember that he considers himself an extremely important person. To be fair, he is - as an example as to how disliked a politician can become. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The manic Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 2 hours ago, boomerangutang said: I'm in a minority, and am not a Brit, but I agree with Blair. So you don't have a dog in the fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55Jay Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 10 minutes ago, oldhippy said: Blair was Bush's lapdog, not Obama's. Maybe because Obama is a social democrat, while Blair....euhhhh.... Waffled on that photo, I just like the imagery of colonial role reversal. This is more what I had in mind though. Seem to recall lots of bent feelings over this. But alas, the issue is still one for British voters to decide, despite The Deplorables having spoken already at the poll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldhippy Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Bluespunk said: He’s not wrong, but the brexiteers have made their choice It’s too much to hope for another vote and the uk will face the consequences of the vote. Good to see voices (even if it is Blair’s) stilling arguing their case, though. Sign of a healthy democracy. Blair & healthy democracy? He is right about brexit of course, but so what? Even the biggest most despicable fool will occasionally say something right. To the embarrasment of those that say that same thing. If Blair wants to make a statement, let him do it in Den Haag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jinners Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 3 hours ago, smedly said: 100% agree how this man cannot see how much hate exists towards him is beyond me, he would have been better fading away and not drawing attention, he should be in jail wonder who is sponsoring his anti brexit rhetoric There's a few you could probably pick from. No shortage of cash in big business and other self interested parties. The man has no shame and a very confused view of how others see him. Like you, I hope one day to see him in the dock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dick dasterdly Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 28 minutes ago, oldhippy said: .....and for the civilian victims in that part of the world, up till today..../ and for causing the refugee crisis that was one of the main reasons for the brexit vote. No, the 'refugee crisis' came later. The EU open borders policy (plus various other things disliked about the EU) resulted in the brexit vote. But this thread is about how much we all appreciate blair's input into the debate . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJAS Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 4 hours ago, webfact said: Blair has repeatedly called for reversing Brexit, So how does he now hope to achieve this end? By persuading the Army to mount a Thailand-style coup, perhaps?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nurseynutcase Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 1 minute ago, jinners said: There's a few you could probably pick from. No shortage of cash in big business and other self interested parties. The man has no shame and a very confused view of how others see him. Like you, I hope one day to see him in the dock. I have been wishing for this from day one of the so-called war on WMD. Bliar is a commensurate liar and should be behind bars - do not know how he has managed to stay out for so long. Neither do I understand how he has not been asassinated yet. He did so much damage to the UK, both at home and abroad, in all spheres. I am unable to heap enough vitriol on his pathetic head to describe the total antipathy I feel towards this apology for a so-called human being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 1 hour ago, oldhippy said: I sincerely doubt that you understood my post about democracy. Or, more likely, you are trolling bricklayers style. Yes, I am actually a brickie and I did understand your post about democracy and my post back was meant to state that your post made an incomparable comparison . Try sticking to the subject rather than using incomparables BTW, can you lay bricks ? Read plans , uses profiles , get corners up to gauge , DPC , weep holes , staff blues and lay them fast enough to make money ? Its not as easy as it looks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dick dasterdly Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Just now, OJAS said: So how does he now hope to achieve this end? By persuading the Army to mount a Thailand-style coup, perhaps?? You're missing the point that this man truly believes himself a respected voice in the UK ! I find it quite funny, whilst fervently hoping that he eventually realises that he's hated - and that his opinions are off-putting rather than his belief that it bolsters the remain cause! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krataiboy Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 When Tony Blair and George Soros join forces to urge you to do something, the most prudent course of action is to do precisely the opposite. They are, to borrow from the pithy vernacular of George Galloway, two cheeks of the same -rse. Back under your stones, both of you - and take your nascent globalist sidekick Trudy with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dick dasterdly Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Just now, Krataiboy said: When Tony Blair and George Soros join forces to urge you to do something, the most prudent course of action is to do precisely the opposite. They are, to borrow from the pithy vernacular of George Galloway, two cheeks of the same -rse. Back under your stones, both of you - and take your nascent globalist sidekick Trudy with you. No idea about trudy, but agree that when the wealthy (and wanabees) advocate one course of action - it's unlikely to be to the benefit of everyone else. But this thread is about how we all respect blair's opinion . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 2 hours ago, Sir Dude said: Maybe Tony has been listening to his wife's pillow talk too much the last few years. Also, he should be aware that extreme socialist Corbyn and his henchmen are no friend of Europe or it's vision, which is probably why they are so timid on the subject...they want out too. Blair will be fully aware that Corbyn has no intention of calling for a second referendum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 26 minutes ago, Krataiboy said: When Tony Blair and George Soros join forces to urge you to do something, the most prudent course of action is to do precisely the opposite. They are, to borrow from the pithy vernacular of George Galloway, two cheeks of the same -rse. Back under your stones, both of you - and take your nascent globalist sidekick Trudy with you. Good job George Galloway is back under his stone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 40 minutes ago, Nurseynutcase said: I have been wishing for this from day one of the so-called war on WMD. Bliar is a commensurate liar and should be behind bars - do not know how he has managed to stay out for so long. Neither do I understand how he has not been asassinated yet. He did so much damage to the UK, both at home and abroad, in all spheres. I am unable to heap enough vitriol on his pathetic head to describe the total antipathy I feel towards this apology for a so-called human being. Thinly-veiled invitation to violence (para 2) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 44 minutes ago, OJAS said: So how does he now hope to achieve this end? By persuading the Army to mount a Thailand-style coup, perhaps?? No. No suggestion of that. Not that there is any comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johna Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 there's a story today in The Times that Blair warned Trump that Obama had requested GCHQ to spy on him in the run up to last years election. This is the kind of crap Tony is famous for, sucking up to anyone who will support his personal ambitions. As soon as you have reached your Use by Date, Tony hasn't got the time of day for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaidream Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 As an American, I think Blair is completely off base. The British public has voted to leave the EU and in a Democracy the vote has to be accepted. The process has begun. Those opposed can complain all they want but to me those who would attempt to subvert the process are being naive. The British people have spoken. The fact that Blair listened to George Bush and his minions and pulled the UK into a Mideast War speaks volumes on why Blair has no credibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldhippy Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 1 hour ago, sanemax said: Yes, I am actually a brickie and I did understand your post about democracy and my post back was meant to state that your post made an incomparable comparison . Try sticking to the subject rather than using incomparables BTW, can you lay bricks ? Read plans , uses profiles , get corners up to gauge , DPC , weep holes , staff blues and lay them fast enough to make money ? Its not as easy as it looks My problem with bricklayers etc is not the work they do. On the contrary. All work is equal - as socialists would say. My problem is with their inferiority complex that makes them very unpleasant people. They always feel attacked, victimised. Not much different from snotty university types with superiority complexes really. And I still don't think that you understand what I said about democracy: 50% +1 deciding over 50% -1 is NOT democracy. What was my "incomparable comparison"? Do explain please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 A troll post containing an intentional aberrant misspelling of Blair's name has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldhippy Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 1 hour ago, SheungWan said: Blair will be fully aware that Corbyn has no intention of calling for a second referendum. Neither will Corbyn have any intention to call Blair when he forms the next UK government. Anyway, the matter has been settled. The Uk will remain, but against payment of a substantial sum of real money (euros), the brexiteers wll be allowed to call it "brexit". Thais do not have the monopoly on FACE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, oldhippy said: My problem with bricklayers etc is not the work they do. On the contrary.All work is equal - as socialists would say. My problem is with their inferiority complex that makes them very unpleasant people. They always feel attacked, victimised. Not much different from snotty university types with superiority complexes really. How many bricklayers do you know, to come to that conclusion ? Physically working all day, earning alot of money, being self employed tend to give Brickies quite a lot of self confidence and they tend to be able to defend themselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andaman Al Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Can somebody also warn British voters that time is running out under the statute of limitations to have Blair jailed for the illegal entry into a war that killed hundreds of British Servicemen. This man has some neck to continue meddling in politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldhippy Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 1 minute ago, sanemax said: How many bricklayers do you know, to come to that conclusion ? Physically working all day, earning alot of money, being self employed tend to give Brickies quite a lot of self confidence and they tend to be able to defend themselves I know lots of people who do fysical work. As a matter of fact I come from a post office workers family, and was the first one ever to go to university. But you seem to confuse 2 types of fysical laborers. The ones that are (self) employed and the ones that are too lazy / desinterested to be their own boss, and would rather be on the dole than take initiative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, oldhippy said: I know lots of people who do fysical work. As a matter of fact I come from a post office workers family, and was the first one ever to go to university. But you seem to confuse 2 types of fysical laborers. The ones that are (self) employed and the ones that are too lazy / desinterested to be their own boss, and would rather be on the dole than take initiative. You really have no idea what you are talking about , you make it up as you go along, you live in your own fantasy world , far removed from reality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldhippy Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 1 minute ago, sanemax said: You really have no idea what you are talking about , you make it up as you go along, you live in your own fantasy world , far removed from reality OK - that makes it clear which category you are in. I have no intention to continue this "discussion" with you - bye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 1 hour ago, johna said: there's a story today in The Times that Blair warned Trump that Obama had requested GCHQ to spy on him in the run up to last years election. This is the kind of crap Tony is famous for, sucking up to anyone who will support his personal ambitions. As soon as you have reached your Use by Date, Tony hasn't got the time of day for you. You're posting misinformation, it is speculative, not a proven fact, from a book written by Michael Wolff. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/01/03/tony-blair-warned-trump-aides-britain-may-have-spied-election/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambum Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 2 hours ago, Bluespunk said: He’s not wrong, but the brexiteers have made their choice It’s too much to hope for another vote and the uk will face the consequences of the vote. Good to see voices (even if it is Blair’s) still arguing their case, though. Sign of a healthy democracy. "Sign of a healthy democracy." Really? More a case of spitting the dummy out because the vote didn't go your way, I would have thought. As thaidream says in a previous post:- "The British public has voted to leave the EU and in a Democracy the vote has to be accepted." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Just now, sambum said: "Sign of a healthy democracy." Really? More a case of spitting the dummy out because the vote didn't go your way, I would have thought. No. It’s someone expressing their view and desires. Something brexiteers have a problem with for some reason. Even more bizarre when it is calling for the same thing the arch brexiteer, farage, said would be necessary, if there was a close vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 9 minutes ago, oldhippy said: OK - that makes it clear which category you are in. I have no intention to continue this "discussion" with you - bye. Yes, time you was back off to your wig wam to spliff up and sit around criticising all and sundry , whilst sitting around doing nothing , thinking that you are equal to everyone else and holding the socialist banner up to back-up your belief that you are above all those lowly construction workers , when youve probably never done a hard days work in your life . Sitting on your high horse, looking down on everyone , and your only achievement in life is growing your hair long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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