Trips back home not the same any more.

[smotherb 6,143]

I've been a life-long expat and learned many years ago that things seem to change little back home--the same group are on the same bar stools, jumping into their conversations is like rejoining a soap opera; it doesn't take long to catch-up. I've been gone 12 years this time,  seems I average a return trip every 8-10 years. My wife and I are going this spring when my grandson and daughter-in-law go to join my son. That will probably be my swan song in the States.

[duanebigsby 2,067]

8 minutes ago, toughlove said:

11 minutes ago, duanebigsby said:

Not all who return are whiners with problems. My best friend in Thailand grew dissatisfied with his life here and the relationship with the wife's family and returned to home. He's happy as hell now and no whining. If Thailand sours for me for whatever reason, I'd happily return home. I enjoy my life in Thailand right now,  but I also enjoyed life in Canada.

I didn't say they were all whiners. Did you read the last bit?

I didn't read carefully enough. I just saw the raising kids part. Apologies

[kenk24 6,484]

Just nothing much that I miss. This is my home. Life is easy. Life is good. 

[kenk24 6,484]

On 1/12/2018 at 6:41 PM, Gecko123 said:

More and more my travels have been for gastronomy, shopping, and a change of climate. I don't go back home much as family and friends treat me the same way they did 15 years ago, curiously unaware that that person doesn't exist anymore.

They can't even see that you are a Gecko? The gecko. 

[joloit 66]

I feel the exact same way, although I come from Germany and and everything is over regulated there. I always have the feeling, when going back, that I am being squeezed into a "straight jacket". The only reason for going back to Europe's to visit my daughters twice a year and I have been living in Phuket for 5 years now and I am really happy to call Thailand my home. We all know, there is "room for improvement" here (putting it mildly ;-) Try to stay out of trouble and avoid government agencies..... then you are almost in paradise. Yepp...... it's home!!

[SiSePuede419 1,654]

No, not at all.

 

I'm lucky to have been born in a country that has 50 million citizens born in another country.  Far more than any other country in the world.

 

They are hardworking and bring new perspectives and buy property in run-down neighborhoods and improve them and open up new restaurants with yummy food.

 

That's why America has the best food in the world... immigrants.

 

America is always improving and changing for the better.

 

Sure, there's the occasion pothole where we elect uneducated, racist Rich White Trash morons who talk shit out of their pie holes.

 

But if America was so bad, why would 50 million people choose to move there?  Because the future is better than where they came from.

 

And that includes YOUR country. ?

 

Plus LEGAL WEED.  I have a medical card in America and eat edibles every night.  Makes me sleep like a baby.

 

Never touch the stuff here UNTIL IT'S LEGAL.  Probably in 10 years.  Looking forward to owning a LEGAL Buds N Breakfast 420 Guest House. 

 

My wife will handle the cooking and cleaning.  I'll be the budtender and give tours back to the LEGAL Ganja farm, just like they used to do in Jamaica.  Educate and medicate.  Relax.  Hang out.  Don't drink, THINK.

 

Until then I don't miss it one bit, even though I tend to wake up early here--because I got the primo, legal shatter, wax, oil and sensimilla just waiting back for me back home for my arrival. ?

 

Don't be stupid, don't do drugs here. ✓

[kokopelli 198]

I must be an oddball?  I enjoy returning to the USA once a year although don't enjoy paying the airfare. I like to see my friends and catch up with them. Most importantly I take care of medical appointments and renew prescription meds and collect my mail.  And it is a break from the hustle and bustle and all that goes with living in Pattaya.

 

[brommers 1,610]

Having left the UK 36 years ago because I was bored of the island mentality I have not one bit of interest in going back to the UK.

 

For many years I was in London on business many times a year. Oh how I grew to hate those overnight flights even though they were in the front of the plane. But I knew that my decision to leave was the correct one after every single visit.

 

18 months ago after a twelve year hiatus I went back in 2016 to conclude family matters. What a shabby, scruffy run down place it now is. How narrow minded and insular were the people, even the young ones. And how dreadful was the weather.

 

Thailand is certainly not perfect but having been coming here on business since the mid 90s and living here full time for a decade I can safely say that this is home. Sure I will always be a farang and an alien but those are not pejorative terms. Yes I battle with the language but we always connect. And most of all is the feeling that this is a country of the future, not one languishing in a mythical past.

 

 

[eddysmit 142]

Know what you mean Xylophone, my regular trips back were to see my Mother and family, now she(Mum) has passed away, when I last went back after the first few days meeting up with family members I was ready to come back, when you consider all the things to put up with like getting to the airport checking in,travelling after arrival,the extra security and the costs,and the reverse for the return,it now makes me wonder if it's worth the hassle, haven't been back for two years now,a record for me, no idea when I will go back again.

[eddysmit 142]

Know what you mean Xylophone, my regular trips back were to see my Mother and family, now she(Mum) has passed away, when I last went back after the first few days meeting up with family members I was ready to come back, when you consider all the things to put up with like getting to the airport checking in,travelling after arrival,the extra security and the costs,and the reverse for the return,it now makes me wonder if it's worth the hassle, haven't been back for two years now,a record for me, no idea when I will go back again.

[wwest5829 3,465]

Count yourselves somewhat fortunate. How about facing the U.S. Immigration and Airport security upon

entering the U.S. and then departing to return home to Thailand? Fault me for abandoning the battle, if you

wish. I would not submit, as a US citizen, to some of the intrusive steps being taken even to clear U.S. citizens.

I denounce the fascist direction and the excuse that these steps are necessary in the name of national

security. My DNA was in the US from before the country was founded, I'll be damned if I will submit. An aging

Eagle Scout, if you have to treat me as suspect ... you have already lost the country. Ha! Means they would

throw my butt in jail for not conforming ... good luck, screw them.

[twix38 368]

I am a Brit and been living in Thailand last 6 years and visiting since 2002.

 

I prefer UK!

 

I am returning in March.

 

Many of the usual reasons - face, lies, corruption, pollution etc

 

Uk has some lovely countryside unspoilt and plenty of public parks, woods, bike tracks etc.

Thailand builds on most of it and public amenities are few. 

 

I need root canal and a crown and shocked at an average price of 15,000 baht about GBP 340. NHS GBP 244. Price of food here is expensive for western food. I eat thai food, but concerned at all the articles regarding pesticides and again corruption plays to this . long term heaven knows what health damage is accruing.

 

Unfortunately the system and the law here is set up to disadvantage foreigners. Dual pricing, unable to own land your home sits on, are 2 examples not found abroad.

 

I return to UK every year and this time i plan to stay for a long time, though I will return here for holidays.

 

Apart from housing and labour, thailand isn't so cheap for a Brit anymore. Second hand cars are way cheaper in UK.

 

I also have found medical competency and accountability in Thailand is poor in my numerous dealings 

[shaurene 1,232]

I feel similar to you.  I am back in NZ now, Howick. I used to come back 3 times a yr for 1-2 months at a time but I have family who have their routine interfered with by my being here.

it is hard to know what to do as I have 2 grandkids I love.

[oobar 464]

No family remaining in America for either my wife (also American) or me.  Went back last time nineteen years ago and and in a single day, by auction, sold our house, all its contents and  four automobiles that had been garaged unused for a dozen years, one a classic muscle car, another a '76 Alfa Spyder convertible I had restored.  Was amazed how little it had all come to mean to me.  Even parted ways with my prized torque wrench without much feeling. We are now retired in Isaan after having built a house in a filled-in rice paddy beside a lake.   No real reason to return to our home country now, which I guess is a little bit sad, but it's a fleeting sadness, passing quickly.

[MaeJoMTB 10,172]

58 minutes ago, twix38 said:

Uk has some lovely countryside unspoilt and plenty of public parks, woods, bike tracks etc.

How many days a year can you use them?

When I was in the UK, maybe 20 days a year. In Thailand 4 days a week.