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Short term condo rental crackdown?

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I booked a 30 day rental in the Centric sea condo through AirBnB.

 

When I arrived a couple of days ago, the condo owner  met me at the lobby. The receptionist in the lobby was adamant that the condo owner now had to provide a rental agreement, and that we had to register my tenancy with immigration. The condo owner said she has never been asked to this before. According to the receptionist, immigration are making regular checks with the condo's.

 

Long story short, we both had to go to the building office today to register me through the immigration website portal (this is what hotels do). It took a while as apparently this was the first time the guy in the office had registered anybody through the immigration portal..

 

To anybody that's not aware, the minimum amount of days a condo can be rented out for, according to Thai law, is 30 days. Centric sea now seem to be enforcing this (In fact there's signs all around the building saying that daily\weekly rental is illegal, and tenants will be thrown out for trespassing).

 

I'm not sure if the other large condo buildings will be following suit, but I suspect there is a general crackdown of short term AirBnB type renting.

 

If you've booked anything less than 30 days in the Centric sea condo, then I would seriously advise you to to reconsider your plans.

 

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This is mainly to ensure guests/tenants get registered with immigration. You should see the lines there every day :-) The rest has been discussed for 3 years now. Fine for non-registration of house-guests starts at 1'600.-- I am being told by friends. Makes sense to register people, been done in Europe for 50 + years. Soon the the very low-season hits and all will cool down and lines will get shorter or disappear. BTW, most condos will NOT register, not their job. BTW, owners need to register themselves, too! Owners or tenants need to go down themselves with proof of address and copies of pp. Simple, free & friendly.

 

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Wonderful if a crackdown happens.  Bravo if Centric is actually getting tough.  But, I was over there the other day and the lobby looked like one for an extremely busy hotel.  And, why is Centric facilitating the illegal short-term rentals by doing the Immigration filing--which is not their job?  Looks like the same sort of pretend crackdown that The Base is doing.

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Not a crackdown  is it? If it was police would be all over and they know it's an impossible task to prevent short term rentals.   It's up to the condo management. The police will not get involved, unless there is money to be earned..

 

 

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So in other words, if you have friends comming over to visit on Visa Exempt Entry say for 2 weeks,  stay in your home where you are the owner,  one must register them at immigration ?

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1 hour ago, observer90210 said:

So in other words, if you have friends comming over to visit on Visa Exempt Entry say for 2 weeks,  stay in your home where you are the owner,  one must register them at immigration ?

Yes, that's the law.

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Old news. Policy introduced last year. Condos are not hotels. We dont want drunken, disrespectful cheapskates destroying the harmony we paid millions of baht for. We an our families live here, work here, get up to go to school here. The new rules are common knowledge. Air BnB is causing problems through out the world. Not your fault. Its the law of unexpected consequences. Any owner who has paid 5 million for a condo does not want strangers with no commitment to their community in their block shouting, drinking, swearing, arguing, slammin door, littering, spitting in elevators, smoking by the pool etc. Owners who rent irresponsibly can be subject to fines and bureaucratic hell. Good.

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The Base continues it. 100's of people a day.

But, they are meeting the ST tenants outside the gate near 2nd road and giving them the keys.

Security lets them thru if they have a Base key card.

 

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33 minutes ago, bkk6060 said:

The Base continues it. 100's of people a day.

But, they are meeting the ST tenants outside the gate near 2nd road and giving them the keys.

Security lets them thru if they have a Base key card.

 

     As I said before, I'll know a condo is serious and not just pretending to crackdown when they install a fingerprint system rather than keycards.

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Last year, a friend who occupies his condo at Jomtien Condotel (enter by Pan Pan) reported a swarm of Immigration agents performed a similar check at his condo. Until Immigration and Revenue departments start comparing notes, and identity and fine non-compliance individuals for not paying taxes these abuses of the law will continue. There are simple short-term solutions such as requiring condos to post signs in the lifts,  on each floor, in the lobby, in agents offices, that it is illegal to rent a condo unit for less than 30 days. 

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4 minutes ago, ThaiBob said:

Last year, a friend who occupies his condo at Jomtien Condotel (enter by Pan Pan) reported a swarm of Immigration agents performed a similar check at his condo. Until Immigration and Revenue departments start comparing notes, and identity and fine non-compliance individuals for not paying taxes these abuses of the law will continue. There are simple short-term solutions such as requiring condos to post signs in the lifts,  on each floor, in the lobby, in agents offices, that it is illegal to rent a condo unit for less than 30 days. 

Those signs are all over The Base.  And at the front gate.  

Sansiri posted them but could careless.

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8 minutes ago, newnative said:

     As I said before, I'll know a condo is serious and not just pretending to crackdown when they install a fingerprint system rather than keycards.

Great idea but you know as well as I do that it would quickly break down, always need repair, and never be accurate or accurately fixed.  Good in concept, but I think a loser here.

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Good for the Base, I see them in Bangkok condos but seldom in Pattaya condos. I don't blame the renters, it is the owners that must be held accountable. 

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Hallo, yesterday my wife went to the Immigration Office to ask if she can rent her condo for short term. The answer was  YES she can, provided that she submits the TM 30 each time within 24 hours. Now today she will talk to the building manager who put up the sign in the first place which says NO short time rental allowed because of Immigration Laws. Will see what happens, when she is confronting him with the facts?

Airbnb is very passive in this matter and does not warn guests of this regulation. 

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11 minutes ago, ThaiBob said:

Last year, a friend who occupies his condo at Jomtien Condotel (enter by Pan Pan) reported a swarm of Immigration agents performed a similar check at his condo. Until Immigration and Revenue departments start comparing notes, and identity and fine non-compliance individuals for not paying taxes these abuses of the law will continue. There are simple short-term solutions such as requiring condos to post signs in the lifts,  on each floor, in the lobby, in agents offices, that it is illegal to rent a condo unit for less than 30 days. 

   When I lived at Centric it had signs posted everywhere saying short-term rentals are illegal.  As a resident, it was nice to see the law publicized with the signs but I doubt it stopped many of the illegal rentals--by the time the illegal renters read the signs they were already checked in.  Centric doesn't seem to have cracked down on the illegal rentals and, apparently,  now is even doing the Immigration registration. If you are cracking down, you don't make the process easier.

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