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‘Better if you do’: Phuket Immigration chief urges foreigners to re-register addresses, even if staying off-island just one night


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14 minutes ago, Valentine said:

Writing an address on arrival card is not proof of your address.

When you leave the country you are tossed out of the system so when you return you have no registered address.

I don't understand why some think they have to report & register where they were staying when away from home as it is up to the hotel to do that.

Immigration does understand that if you return on the weekend or public holiday that it is not feasible to register within 24 hours.

There is an online reporting form for registering your address but is only in Thai.

I feel these 2 paragraphs from the article are important :

“However, if you become involved in an incident and become a suspect in a case for example, not re-registering your address will be a big problem. So it’s better if you do.”

Regardless, although the overall effect for most foreigners caught not re-registering their address each time on returning home to Phuket might be deemed negligible, foreigners will be liable to a B2,000 fine for each infringement and the incident will remain on their immigration record.

Luckily my immigration does not care about my  travel inside or outside Thailand!

But surely you have registered at an address sometime  condo wife's house etc.. you leave the country come back immigration input address, it matches Could they not have a notification  "Honey i'm home on their site" 

They must know youre back because your 90 day report is based on the date you enter

 

It seems a lot of fuss about nothing well apart from making money on fines

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One good thing about the pink ID card is that you can use it, or if you can get away with it the Thai driving license, to register at any hotel you stay in away from your perm residence. That way it is not linked to your passport number.

 

That's what I do within Thailand and I stay away from my home here at least 2/3 times a month as I like to drink with my mates and I stay in a  local hotel rather than drink/drive.

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21 hours ago, Baerboxer said:

 

If you have a home here, but then stay in a hotel/GH somewhere else in Thailand you will be registered at the new address. 

When you get back home, how will they know you are there, unless you go and register again?

 

They could make that assumption but would have no way of knowing for sure if they did.

 

So it's more convenient for them to insist you, as the foreign alien, comply with the law. That way the know for sure and you save a fine.

The sensible answer is you are at your registered address if you are not at a hotel. 

All about harassment and  knowing  male foreigners will jump through flaming hoops to maintain access to sex.

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Just now, PhuketSarah said:

The sensible answer is you are at your registered address if you are not at a hotel. 

All about harassment and  knowing  male foreigners will jump through flaming hoops to maintain access to sex.

 

Why is is "sensible' for the police, or anyone else, to make that assumption? Just because it's more convenient for you and others doesn't make it logical or sensible.

 

Assumptions are the mother of lots of fcku ups.

 

The rules apply to female foreigners too. Or do you think only men want sex?

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Presumably, this delightful brand of Thai logic would apply irrespective of whether you stayed "off island" or at an address just round the corner from your normal abode.

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15 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Why is is "sensible' for the police, or anyone else, to make that assumption? Just because it's more convenient for you and others doesn't make it logical or sensible.

 

Assumptions are the mother of lots of fcku ups.

 

The rules apply to female foreigners too. Or do you think only men want sex?

Oh sure, women flock to Thailand for the cheap prostitutes, why just have a look at any of the bar scene neighborhoods, practically nothing but females lurching around with prostitutes in tow. I wonder what is the ratio of female to male sexpats?

Sensible means makes sense, it's perfectly reasonable, it's sensible  that registering a home address should apply until you change that address. If you are in  hotel, that is in the system, ( or should be) if you are not shown as in a hotel, you should  be at home.

Meanwhile crooks and cons are never bothered by these rules,  because they pay- and that's the entire premise of ridiculous and harassing rules - under the table pay offs. 

 

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Totally disconnected from reality..The queues would be huge, and they would need extra space and staff. Phuket is a weird immigration station: twice now since the team was changed, my wife went to report my 90 days,but was told the first time that I must come in person, so I let my accountant do it (and pay) and a few weeks ago again was told I should 'sometimes come myself'. There is no such law, they make their own.

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2 minutes ago, PhuketSarah said:

Oh sure, women flock to Thailand for the cheap prostitutes, why just have a look at any of the bar scene neighborhoods, practically nothing but females lurching around with prostitutes in tow. 

Go ahead and defend this harassment, but  I note you're  about  only one in 13 pages of comments. 

 

It's not an assumption that registering a home address should apply until you change that address. If you are in  hotel, that is in the system, ( or should be) of you are not shown as in a hotel, you should  be at home.

Meanwhile crooks and cons are never bothered by these rules,  because they pay- and that's the entire premise of ridiculous and harassing rules 

 

Well you illustrate just how ridiculous your assertion is that all men have to day 90 day reports as a hassle to their being here for access to sex. 

Not all visitors here, spouses, expats, long term residents are after cheap whores. That you think otherwise suggests a bias maybe from the company you keep or an anti male prejudice?

 

This isn't harassment. It's trying to prevent people being fined - not something they'd do if they thought it was a "nice little earner" to quote you, now is it? 

 

13 pages of people who don't think the law should apply to them! Plenty moan about the "above the law" entitlement of the hiso elite. But expect that rules don't have to apply to them.

 

In most legal systems, where you have to report something, the onus is always on the person reporting. They don't make assumptions for very good reasons. If you don't like it, no one forces you to stay here. Either report or pay the fine, up to you. But stop pretending this is some "little earner" or harassment of whore chasing men - that's as illogical as suggesting assumptions are the way to go.

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On 1/28/2018 at 10:53 AM, meinphuket said:

Totally disconnected from reality..The queues would be huge, and they would need extra space and staff. Phuket is a weird immigration station: twice now since the team was changed, my wife went to report my 90 days,but was told the first time that I must come in person, so I let my accountant do it (and pay) and a few weeks ago again was told I should 'sometimes come myself'. There is no such law, they make their own.

 

Every office does its own thing and has its own interpretations. At my office they told us you don't have to go in person, anyone can bring the form and passport for you!

 

And of course things change as the senior personnel change in each office too. 

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5 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Well you illustrate just how ridiculous your assertion is that all men have to day 90 day reports as a hassle to their being here for access to sex. 

Not all visitors here, spouses, expats, long term residents are after cheap whores. That you think otherwise suggests a bias maybe from the company you keep or an anti male prejudice?

 

This isn't harassment. It's trying to prevent people being fined - not something they'd do if they thought it was a "nice little earner" to quote you, now is it? 

 

13 pages of people who don't think the law should apply to them! Plenty moan about the "above the law" entitlement of the hiso elite. But expect that rules don't have to apply to them.

 

In most legal systems, where you have to report something, the onus is always on the person reporting. They don't make assumptions for very good reasons. If you don't like it, no one forces you to stay here. Either report or pay the fine, up to you. But stop pretending this is some "little earner" or harassment of whore chasing men - that's as illogical as suggesting assumptions are the way to go.

The discussion is about a stupid harassing law,  not why I am here- and 90 days reports have nothing to so with it. 

Consensus is; a stupid law,  all  about getting fines.

I remain of my  opinion harassing expats, and knowing most will do anything to stay here is a basis for such rules. 

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4 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Every office does its own thing and has its own interpretations. At my office they told us you don't have to go in person, anyone can bring the form and passport for you!

 

And of course things change as the senior personnel change in each office too. 

And even every officer in that office will say something different- the consistency is not there and I believe it to be deliberate. They could not care less about such rules being a gigantic  headache and hassle because it is constructed so they can get 2000 baht fines all day long. 

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On 1/28/2018 at 10:53 AM, meinphuket said:

Totally disconnected from reality..The queues would be huge, and they would need extra space and staff. Phuket is a weird immigration station: twice now since the team was changed, my wife went to report my 90 days,but was told the first time that I must come in person, so I let my accountant do it (and pay) and a few weeks ago again was told I should 'sometimes come myself'. There is no such law, they make their own.

What if we began calling  the Immigration hotline and Bangkok office numbers all day long? Oh, those numbers are either invalid (hotline) or never answered. 

 

 

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47 minutes ago, PattayaAngel said:

One good thing about the pink ID card is that you can use it, or if you can get away with it the Thai driving license, to register at any hotel you stay in away from your perm residence. That way it is not linked to your passport number.

Pink card is linked (or should be) to a Yellow tabien baan via the 13-digit ID number.

 

Yellow TB is linked to a passport >>>> Pink card is linked to a passport, even if it's an expired/lost one.

 

My DLs also have a passport number on them.

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