‘Better if you do’: Phuket Immigration chief urges foreigners to re-register addresses, even if staying off-island just one night

[PhuketSarah 118]

And Ubon Joe states-  comment # 5 

" The TM28 form is used for requirements under section 37 of the immigration act which is largely not enforced other than for a change of address. The max fine under that section is 5,000 baht.

The TM30 for is under section 38 and has a max fine of 2,000 baht for individuals and 10,000 baht for businesses.

Phuket immigration appears to be using the rules under section 37 for their requirements to do a TM30 form."

 

[meinphuket 661]

20 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Every office does its own thing and has its own interpretations. At my office they told us you don't have to go in person, anyone can bring the form and passport for you!

 

And of course things change as the senior personnel change in each office too. 

The main immigration website (Suan Plu) states that 90 day reporting can be done by anyone authorized by the person to be reported. Does anyone have an inside track email for the current head of immigration  in Bangkok, so I can report this ?

[meinphuket 661]

14 minutes ago, MartinL said:

Pink card is linked (or should be) to a Yellow tabien baan via the 13-digit ID number.

 

Yellow TB is linked to a passport >>>> Pink card is linked to a passport, even if it's an expired/lost one.

 

My DLs also have a passport number on them.

Thai drivers license is linked to the foreigners passport.

[PhuketSarah 118]

18 hours ago, SunsetT said:

I reached this conclusion a long time ago. The education system is so bad that they are not taught to think. They have the hardware but not the software.

I agree the education system is all about minioninzing the populace but this is  all about making money off absurdly implemented rules. 

Make this available online if it is so impossible to figure out foreigners are at their registered address unless they are at at a hotel. 

Again, crooks will ignore it and  others will just pay. 

[PhuketSarah 118]

3 minutes ago, meinphuket said:

The main immigration website (Suan Plu) states that 90 day reporting can be done by anyone authorized by the person to be reported. Does anyone have an inside track email for the current head of immigration  in Bangkok, so I can report this ?

This thread is about TM 30 address notification , not 90 day  " stay in country another 90 days.."  reports 

[meinphuket 661]

Just to continue my Phuket complaint: if he stated that I should come myself, then how does that work with online reporting where NOBody shows up  ? Phuket had an answer to that ie. they disabled the online reporting system. 

[PattayaAngel 384]

36 minutes ago, MartinL said:

Pink card is linked (or should be) to a Yellow tabien baan via the 13-digit ID number.

 

Yellow TB is linked to a passport >>>> Pink card is linked to a passport, even if it's an expired/lost one.

 

My DLs also have a passport number on them.

They don't make that connection.

[EnlightenedAtheist 308]

What irks me the most about this is the line "It is the law." The origin. article says it is an archaic law. I get the sense though that this is another manner that officials (in many countries too) can find an issue with you if they need to. And, since it seems that the locals are always right, it puts us as lame ducks for all kinds of abuse. At the same time, those Thais travelling abroad have to put with this nonsense too. Retaliation anyone?

 

If they really wanted to know where we are, they could have a website where one can do the reporting with a GPS tagged image of oneself! This is the 21st century! Let go from archaic to ... modern times! Charlie Chaplin anyone?

[wgdanson 9,190]

20 hours ago, jojothai said:

What happens with short time hotels. Do they have to report a foreigner staying?

Only if you are there over midnight. 

[WHYWHY 89]

Maybe should start reporting Batroom movements and daily reporting 

Of color of your underwear 

Does other countries make you jump throgh hoops 

Soon going to need to report everytime you take a breath is it ever going too end 

[thaibeachlovers 32,922]

On ‎1‎/‎27‎/‎2018 at 4:02 PM, wvavin said:

If this were to be implemented, there would be daily endless Q outside the Phuket immigration office.

Why? The vast majority of TM 30 are done on line.

If any want to complain, do so about how ordinary home owners can't do it on line.

[thaibeachlovers 32,922]

4 hours ago, PhuketSarah said:

I agree the education system is all about minioninzing the populace but this is  all about making money off absurdly implemented rules. 

Make this available online if it is so impossible to figure out foreigners are at their registered address unless they are at at a hotel. 

Again, crooks will ignore it and  others will just pay. 

? TM 30 is free, so who is making money off it?

[Gandtee 2,346]

5 hours ago, PhuketSarah said:

The sensible answer is you are at your registered address if you are not at a hotel. 

All about harassment and  knowing  male foreigners will jump through flaming hoops to maintain access to sex.

Nonsense! What has sex got to do with it? Many of us have a life here. Perhaps you should get one. One that does not look through bigoted glasses.

[Valentine 2,401]

6 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Why? The vast majority of TM 30 are done on line.

If any want to complain, do so about how ordinary home owners can't do it on line.

If you know Thai or have a Thai person to help, you can do it here http://www.phuketimmigration.go.th/notify/

[thaibeachlovers 32,922]

6 hours ago, crazykopite said:

If they Immigration had a decent computer system that you could do temporary change of address online it would help , if I were to do this it would take a 2 hour trip just to report to them and then another 2 hour trip to get back home , the whole thing is a joke . What about the run of the mill holiday maker who over 3 weeks could move on every few days. I think it would be just as cheap in my circumstances to pay the fine if I were caught as the boat fare on its own is 600 baht to get to my immigration and that’s without taxi fares and food. 90 day reporting is bad enough ?

Try reading the rule. If there is no immigration office nearby you can notify at a police station. I have done so. It's just a bureaucratic thing, not an extension or something.

There is no need to make things more difficult than they have to be.

 

What about the run of the mill holiday maker who over 3 weeks could move on every few days.

Perhaps you are one of those that thinks TM 30 is your responsibility- it isn't. Unless you live in your own house it's nothing to do with you at all.

Real tourists never have to do TM 30.