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‘Better if you do’: Phuket Immigration chief urges foreigners to re-register addresses, even if staying off-island just one night


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11 minutes ago, Mansell said:

You are going at the wrong time of day. I usually arrive around 2pm and am in and out in ten minutes or less. My best time for 90 day report was under two minutes. Phuket is one of the easiest places for immigration. Try CHIANG MAI. Nightmare.

Lmao.... and here I was going to say that I preferred Chiang mai!

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3 hours ago, cms22 said:

You do wonder, at least I wonder, the intellect of these people. Such a requirement is clearly not practicable nor reasonable. I'm sorry but there is just so much increasing evidence of Thai people being unable to think. Not being nasty, but so many are like animals, just following: no ability to think "is this right" "is this common sense". Such a shame.

I reached this conclusion a long time ago. The education system is so bad that they are not taught to think. They have the hardware but not the software.

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2 hours ago, Golden Triangle said:

Last September I flew to Singapore, stayed one night, caught the train from Butterworth through Malaysia and back into Thailand, stayed one night in BKK and travelled back to Pattaya the following day, I have since done a 90 day reporting, got a new passport and renewed my extension of stay (retirement) Never once have I re-reported to immigration that I am back at my permanent address.

 

And as far as possible when travelling within Thailand I get the Mrs to book us in using her ID card, less work for the hotel/guesthouse and no need to inform immigration of anything.    

So technically speaking when u did the 90 day reporting after your trip,  when seing the Singapore and or Malaysian stamps and Thai re-entry stamp in your passport they could have fined u 2000thb.

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I think this will go especially from now onwards for the provinces with the highest %age of dangerous international criminals: Phuket, Prachuap, Chonburi, BKK, Pathum, Rayong mostly. Consequently, gangs and gangsters will move to RoiEt, Nonkhai,  and - foremost - to the southern Moslem provinces: Nobody there gives a s..t as to governmental decrees!

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2 hours ago, MartinL said:

 

 

Apart from once when testing my Pink Card for hotel registration, my wife's registered at all hotels we've stayed at - I haven't registered at any hotel/GH/resort in the almost 10 years I've been in Thailand. I'm sure the hotel proprietors prefer it that way, too.

 

If immigration checks on me, they must think "What a boring life this bloke leads - never goes anywhere. Isn't he interested in seeing Thailand?".

 

Being invisible is wonderful.

"they must think"............................No! Nnever make that mistake.

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31 minutes ago, SunsetT said:

So technically speaking when u did the 90 day reporting after your trip,  when seing the Singapore and or Malaysian stamps and Thai re-entry stamp in your passport they could have fined u 2000thb.

A very big YES according to the comments on here :smile:

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4 hours ago, Baerboxer said:

 

No, why should Immigration be expected to presume you have returned to the property you regard as home?

 

You are legally required to inform them, not them make presumptions and guesses on your behalf. 

 

You could be visiting family, friends, some new gf or whatever and staying in their residence. I don't know any police force that would accept making assumptions and presumptions as part of a procedure like this.

 

And he's being very good to remind people so they don't get fined.

"And he's being very good to remind people so they don't get fined." :cheesy:

 

Is this meant as a counter terrorism operation, or just a move to get the long stayers to jump through more hoops?

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Folks....long time rule....CM started enforcing TM 30 about 6 months ago...really up to the owner to do but foreigners end up paying fine 1600b b/cThais don't want to be bothered with bs tracking of their guests....

 

easy way for gov to generate extra revenue....

 

 

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49 minutes ago, chercheur888 said:

Now I have a questions for you:

I live in Phuket and I decide to stay 1 night in a HOTEL in PHUKET

What do I have to do?

In theory you have to do what the law says.

The Hotel should report you.

Then you have to report to immigration that you have returned home within 24 hours. Utter nonsense.

 

I'm sure that immigration will have you well tracked with their vast resources, and verify it against your mobile phone movements so that they can identify where you are and apprehend you asap. :1zgarz5:

 

More of a question

What happens with short time hotels. Do they have to report a foreigner staying?

Just imagine what that could mean. And not just the TM30.

 

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1 hour ago, NE1 said:

Did the TM 30 2016 , I had a visit to Malaysia lined up so I went to my Immi. office for a re-entry permit.

I asked them , upon my return do I have to do the TM 30 again. They told me that if you are returning to the address that we did on the 2016 TM30 , then no.

Last November we went to do my yearly extension , filled a new TM 30 in , handed all my paperwork in , and received my extension.

I looked in my passport and the slip from the 2016 TM30 had not been replaced with the new 2017 one.

I went back to the window and was told , if my address is still the same there is no need to do a new one.

So I still have the 2016 slip in my passport. I don't know if that will give me problems later , but what can you do .

You can't stand there and argue the toss with them .

Depends where in Thailand you are staying and that local Immigration office policies (despite being national laws).  In C. Mai you must go in and get your TM-30 stamped (or a TM30 slip if your 1st time) if you leave the country and return even to the same address.  In my case, I have a TM-30 in my passport where they will just add  a stamp with the date and the signature of the officer to the original TM-30 slip.  Wife is the renter of where we stay so we bring in the rental contract and a TM30 form filled out just in case (fill-in .pdf where I just change the dates each time and print).  They even will give you a bit of slack on the time to report due to being overwhelmed some days vs others.  Have gone in 5 days after returning on a Fri and no fine.  On the subject of who reports, it is the owner or the person renting the house, both are equally liable.  Our landlord is great (and busy) so we don't mind going in ourselves. Gives me a reason to eat at Dukes every 3 months.

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DrPhibes , I went in because of the stories I had heard about other immigration offices around the country , I just wanted to be on the safe side.

As we all know and it has been well documented on ThaiVisa , be it Driving Licenses , Visas , or Extensions , there are different levels of scrutiny depending on what part of the country you live.

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