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SURVEY: Do you WANT Trump to finish his first term?  

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Impeachment-worthy storm clouds (not to mention Stormy Daniels :partytime2:clouds) gathering over the trump very white house --

 


 

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If Trump’s own advisers think he has obstructed justice, how could Republicans decide otherwise?

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The evidence of obstruction is simply overwhelming at this point. “Mueller and his team surely have evidence on obstruction of justice that has not yet been made public,” writes Jeffrey Toobin in the New Yorker. “But even on the available evidence, Trump’s position looks perilous indeed. The portrait is of a President using every resource at his disposal to shut down an investigation—of Trump himself. And now it has become clear that Trump’s own White House counsel rebelled at the President’s rationale for his actions.”

 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2018/01/28/if-trumps-own-advisers-think-he-has-obstructed-justice-how-could-republicans-decide-otherwise/

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Numerous off-topic posts and replies have been removed -- about 35.   The topic ISN'T about WWI,II, Korea or Vietnam.   Also, many trolling deflections removed.   

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21 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Impeachment-worthy storm clouds (not to mention Stormy Daniels :partytime2:clouds) gathering over the trump very white house --

 


 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2018/01/28/if-trumps-own-advisers-think-he-has-obstructed-justice-how-could-republicans-decide-otherwise/

 

I think it is clear Trump did all or most of the things cited in the article. I'm not sure if all or most or any of those things rise to the level of obstruction of justice. If they do then he is guilty of that.  I'm much more interested in actual crimes he may have been a party too though. People will be uneasy if no underlying crime is found (not saying that will be the case) and the only chargable crime is procedural rather than substantive.

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19 hours ago, Jingthing said:

While this thread asks whether you WANT trump to finish his first term or not, for discussion purposes here are ways that any president might not finish a term:

 

-- Impeachment by congress and then conviction by the senate

 

-- Resignation due to political pressure/ legal problems / scandal, etc. 

 

-- Resignation for actual serious health problems (other than an excuse for the real reasons)

 

-- Natural death in office

 

-- Assassination


It's important to note that IMPEACHMENT only will not remove him. It might lead to resignation, but to be forced out by impeachment, the senate must convict.

LOL I know which one or two I'd choose. 

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18 hours ago, Samui Bodoh said:

I hear that people do not want Pence to take over if Trump were to leave, but I say let Trump finish.

 

The reason that I want Trump to finish is that I think he will do so much damage to the Republican party brand that they will not be able to be elected again for a very, very long time. Think of it; now the Republican party is one where 'Pussy-grabbing' is okay, where it is okay to harass and abuse women (17 at last count), it is okay to demonize people based on the colour of their skin, it is okay to discriminate against people based on their religion, it is okay to violate every political norm out there, it is okay to lie several times a day, it is okay to screw over the people who voted for you, Etc. Etc. Etc.

 

The above is what Trump supporters have allowed.

 

Let all Republicans everywhere have Trump's name tattooed on their forehead for life! 

 

The potential for Trump becoming a dictator increases daily. So his immediate removal is crucial. 

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9 minutes ago, selftaopath said:

The potential for Trump becoming a dictator increases daily. So his immediate removal is crucial. 

There's a lot about Trump to be critical of, but you should strive to keep your comments grounded in reality.

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It could be that Mueller is pursuing the obstruction of justice and abuse of power charges to either get Trump to quit or have congress initiate impeachment  of him.. He might have other criminal charges against him, Kushner, Don Jr., Ivanka, and other members of Trumps  circle but wants Trump to leave office before he charges them as he knows that Trump would pardon then.   Once he's out of office that option disappears.  I really don't think that Trump will ever resign and if they do impeach him they'll have to carry him out of the White House kicking and screaming!

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Oh, Donny John, the FBI, the FBI are calling
From door to door, and nowhere to hide.
America's gone and trust in you is falling,
It's you, it's you that must go, as we chide.

 

Never come back, go hide in the shadow,
And when your voice is hushed and jailed below.
We'll be here in sunshine without your ego,
Oh Donny John, oh Donny John, you must go.
 

(Sung to the tune of Danny boy)

 

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6 hours ago, bendejo said:
20 hours ago, heybruce said:

If you look at his policies regarding Iran, Pakistan, Israel, Israel, Turkey, and North Korea, any assumption that he won't start more wars is optimistic.

 

He's not a fighter/warrior, he's a bully and enjoys getting a rise out of people.

He's still the snot-nosed punk-arsed brat he was at age 13.

 

 

One can only hope that you are right and that heybruce is overly pessimistic. If you are right, whatever harms Trump inflicts will be fixable. If heybruce is right, the devastation wrought in some regions will be, well, devastating. Some leaders, like Kim, may be deserving of annihilation, but the people aren’t.  

 

Under the circumstances, self interest (if you’re living in those areas) and empathy (if you’re living a safe distance away) demands heybruce’s kind of pessimism of us all.

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Anyone who donates to Republican party candidates, including Trump, should know their money is partly going to pay hush money to prostitutes.  Just sayin'....   If you like spending money for Trump's 'hush money', then fine, keep donating to Trump.

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4 minutes ago, boomerangutang said:

Anyone who donates to Republican party candidates, including Trump, should know their money is partly going to pay hush money to prostitutes.  Just sayin'....   If you like spending money for Trump's 'hush money', then fine, keep donating to Trump.

 

Sorry for stealing your schitck, but you’re missing some major analogies here: since these Republicans use their elected office to vote away our rights and give our money to the 1%, it’s not even like paying for someone *else* to have sex; it’s closer to like paying someone else to have sex with your wife.

 

you are welcome.

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