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If you live in Hua Hin you might be about to get a visit from the Tourist Police

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3 hours ago, timbothaivisa said:

Quite - and the fact that everyone seems more motivated NOT to find out makes the whole discussion a lot more volatile
https://fullfact.org/immigration/eu-immigration-uk-whats-hidden-national-insurance-number-data/

I'm not sure I follow, the discussion (and the comment I made, which you were replying to) is about the difficulty in establishing accurate figures for illegal immigrants, since almost by definition, they are not officially registered as being in the country and go out of their way to avoid being detected.

 

The link you give here is about whether short-term legal EU migrants who stay less than a year, should be counted - a totally different thing.

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On 08/02/2018 at 12:50 PM, Tilacme said:

Or they dont have 800,000 to put in limbo.

Not necessary.  Use agent and keep your money back home. 500 sovs for the service and saves running around and dealing with bureaucrats 

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On 2/16/2018 at 3:54 PM, GroveHillWanderer said:

I'm not sure I follow, the discussion (and the comment I made, which you were replying to) is about the difficulty in establishing accurate figures for illegal immigrants, since almost by definition, they are not officially registered as being in the country and go out of their way to avoid being detected.

 

The link you give here is about whether short-term legal EU migrants who stay less than a year, should be counted - a totally different thing.

The point is that when there's a will, there's a way. But there is no political will.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/09/20/measuring-illegal-immigration-how-pew-research-center-counts-unauthorized-immigrants-in-the-u-s/

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I won't answer my door or even look out of the window.

 

People attend my house by appointment only.

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Get the immigration police to do a sweep of Sukhumvit Soi 1 through to Asok junction, both sides of the road on any evening between 10pm and midnight. They would need several 50-seater buses to accommodate those caught up in the sweep. Oh, and they would also need the willingness to undertake such a genuine sweep.

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Typical TV.  90% BS and 10% sensible posts.

Started with a simple report of police doing their job, and doing it politely.

 

Nothing changes here!

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7 hours ago, HHTel said:

Typical TV.  90% BS and 10% sensible posts.

Started with a simple report of police doing their job, and doing it politely.

 

Nothing changes here!

I think the cynical point of view stems from the assumption Tourist Police are cooperating with Immigration Police on this effort.   I know they have in my area.

 

So Tourist Police had to have received a list of foreigner addresses from Immigration's data base.  How else would they know where to go?

 

One could reasonably presume the Immigration data base print out would also reflect the foreigner's visa/extension status.  So why waste time checking a person who's details are up to date with Immigration, such as the man in the OP? 

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4 hours ago, 55Jay said:

I think the cynical point of view stems from the assumption Tourist Police are cooperating with Immigration Police on this effort.   I know they have in my area.

 

So Tourist Police had to have received a list of foreigner addresses from Immigration's data base.  How else would they know where to go?

 

One could reasonably presume the Immigration data base print out would also reflect the foreigner's visa/extension status.  So why waste time checking a person who's details are up to date with Immigration, such as the man in the OP? 

Aparently some people do not reside at the address given to the

Immigration Police.

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3 hours ago, jvs said:

Aparently some people do not reside at the address given to the

Immigration Police.

Sure, but that's not the point of the OP.  This is about finding over-stayers.

 

To that end, Immigration and the Tourist Police might net more "bad guys" if they started with a list of "bad guys", not known "good guys".

 

But then again, elderly foreigners typically don't run when the cops visit; if they do, it's not very fast.  So they are low hanging fruit for unimaginative jobsworths who might also be dumb enough to think media coverage of tourist police harassing old guys at home in Hua Hin, makes their outfit look good.

 

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1 hour ago, 55Jay said:

Sure, but that's not the point of the OP.  This is about finding over-stayers.

NO it's not.  It's simply an address check. Nothing sinister about it.

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On 2/8/2018 at 12:38 PM, webfact said:

The checks involve officers visiting foreigners at home to ensure they have not overstayed their visa.

I don't suppose it worth a bun fight over but.....  from the OP itself ^.  :ermm:

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4 minutes ago, HHTel said:

NO it's not.  It's simply an address check. Nothing sinister about it.

See above post. 

 

Not suggesting there's anything sinister about it.  Just a bit daft really.

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1 minute ago, 55Jay said:

I don't suppose it worth a bun fight over but.....  from the OP itself ^.  :ermm:

They will know from the computer records if the foreigner is over staying their visa or not.

 

I suspect they can print out a list of all foreigners who have expired visas (overstayers) once per week with a single mouse click.

 

Why dont they do that ?

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I think the OP was a little paranoid in his remarks.  It's happened to me and several people I know and overstaying was never mentioned.  Just ID to show you are at the address given to immigration.  Always polite to the point of being apologetic. 

Overstaying can certainly be identified by immigration without a visit.

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