chickenslegs Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 7 hours ago, Just Weird said: One accident 5 years ago and one other 3 years ago. That's two too many but it's not a bad record. Sorry to be pedantic but ... Unless we know how many "around the world" cyclists have visited Thailand in the past 5 years, it's impossible to say whether it's a good or bad record. If the Chilean family and the UK couple were the only ones who tried, it would be a very bad record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIWIBATCH Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Riding their bikes in/through Thailand...idiots.....their trip is not going to end well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChouDoufu Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 29 minutes ago, KIWIBATCH said: Riding their bikes in/through Thailand...idiots.....their trip is not going to end well it's not so bad. really. perhaps your perception is due to reading too many bad thai driver threads. i've ridden throughout thailand, from singapore to china and back through vietnam and cambodia and laos. tens of thousands of kilometers in thailand. even crossed bangkok several times. rush hour traffic in bangkok is horrendous, the scooters are a major nuisance for cyclists, and the minivan drivers to pattaya are insane. riding in the countryside is quite different. safe and pleasant if you plan your route properly, and of course ride defensively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 I'll give them 15% chance of survival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toofarnorth Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 I suppose if the worst happens and they get hit by a minibus an excuse could be " I couldn't see for the smog ". Saying that way up here we have blue skies and can even see the mountain tops 3 k away. 2 days ago could barely make out the front gate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 17 hours ago, ChouDoufu said: no context to the statement. there are uniformed soldiers with automatic rifles stationed along the main streets and market areas in some towns. not uncommon to have lunch in a noodle stall with a soldier standing on the pavement outside. could be the cyclists were joking about "police security" as they happened to have lunch where the local cops were eating. irregardless, were the meaning literal, would have expected to see a group photo with a dozen cops pointing to the cyclists. "no context to the statement". Bags of context. "not uncommon to have lunch in a noodle stall with a soldier standing on the pavement outside". A soldier is not "police security". "could be the cyclists were joking about "police security" . That wasn't suggested anywhere. Just because they weren't in a photo doesn't mean that they weren't there, regardless of what you expect to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 17 hours ago, chickenslegs said: Sorry to be pedantic but ... Unless we know how many "around the world" cyclists have visited Thailand in the past 5 years, it's impossible to say whether it's a good or bad record. If the Chilean family and the UK couple were the only ones who tried, it would be a very bad record. The record has nothing to do with round-the-world-cyclists unless you think that that type in particular are being targeted. The casualty figures have to be compared with the total number of cyclists in the country; their nationality and the purpose of their ride is irrelevant to the accident statistics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donotdisturb Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 On 09/02/2018 at 2:43 AM, cornishcarlos said: I think you need to visit a temple and release a baby turtle... Such built up anger/frustration is not good :) It's often due to low selfesteem and a failed life. Let's give the man a hug while he cries on our shoulder. ?❣? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenslegs Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Just Weird said: The record has nothing to do with round-the-world-cyclists unless you think that that type in particular are being targeted. The casualty figures have to be compared with the total number of cyclists in the country; their nationality and the purpose of their ride is irrelevant to the accident statistics. The topic is about two "around the world" cyclists. You stated ... "One accident 5 years ago and one other 3 years ago. That's two too many but it's not a bad record." So, I assumed you were referring only to "around the world" cyclists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvaviator Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 it's not so bad. really. perhaps your perception is due to reading too many bad thai driver threads. i've ridden throughout thailand, from singapore to china and back through vietnam and cambodia and laos. tens of thousands of kilometers in thailand. even crossed bangkok several times. rush hour traffic in bangkok is horrendous, the scooters are a major nuisance for cyclists, and the minivan drivers to pattaya are insane. riding in the countryside is quite different. safe and pleasant if you plan your route properly, and of course ride defensively.I hear that cycling in Australia can be very dangerous :-) ... I think anyone into long distance ultra cycling or racing can attest to that Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvaviator Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 Or going out on a balcony ... :-) .... Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvaviator Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 Not sure I can prove my new found theory ... need help from someone with a statistic analytical background ... My argument is that if you have driving in U.K. and Thailand a handicap score based on obvious breaking of every road safety law in the book .... Maybe Thailand is the most safest country to drive in :-) .... and Uk very dangerous .... ?Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Dude Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 Hardly news in my opinion. What, couple of snowflakes on a trendy ego trip round the world so they can post updates on Farcebook about how utterly wonderful and adventurous they are. Very fashionable....hope it doesn't get you killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaimelody Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Sir Dude said: Hardly news in my opinion. What, couple of snowflakes on a trendy ego trip round the world so they can post updates on Farcebook about how utterly wonderful and adventurous they are. Very fashionable....hope it doesn't get you killed. temple is all out of turtles, try the sparrow in a cage. calming. These two wonderfully constructive individuals are on the trip of a lifetime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChouDoufu Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 3 hours ago, rvaviator said: I hear that cycling in Australia can be very dangerous :-) ... I think anyone into long distance ultra cycling or racing can attest to that spent a year doing a circuit of oz, start and end in cairns, with a ride down to alice (bus back to katherine) and a loop of tazmania. not dangerous at all. little to no traffic outside the cities. only portion i didn't particularly like was the narrow road with moderate traffic coming into sydney from the south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChouDoufu Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 5 hours ago, Just Weird said: "no context to the statement". Bags of context......" okay, sure. i had read " made a stop in Yala province to rest, had a meal amid police security, and visited a bike shop " having cycled thru there myself, i did notice the heavy security through the market areas. i assumed they were soldiers, although they could just as easily have been heavily armed police. cycling long distance, most of the day is spent in the countryside, only stopping in towns for lunch or for overnight accommodations. in town and having a meal in the market "amid heavy police security" in an area prone to insurgent bombings is something one would remark on. i did not understand the article quote to imply that the siblings had been issued a private security detail by the local police commander, therefore i saw no reason to complain that "public money" had been spent for the benefit of a couple cyclists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaimelody Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 5 hours ago, Donotdisturb said: It's often due to low selfesteem and a failed life. Let's give the man a hug while he cries on our shoulder. ?❣? you are amusing, I appreciate the hug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhys Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 Now to the drivers ALL.. Let's not this the final stop... Bike Awareness.. for all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 On 2/9/2018 at 10:34 PM, ChouDoufu said: iding in the countryside is quite different. safe and pleasant if you plan your route properly, and of course ride defensively. Nothing will save you when a truck lose control and hit you from behind. Consider yourself lucky so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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