Srikcir Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 4 hours ago, webfact said: We’ll have to have measures to ensure the country becomes firmly democratic in the timelines,” he continued. “That could be designated by either me or by laws.” ... or by the laws of my appointed legislature. Not by the sovereign power of the people as mandated by the constitution. A very honest statement but hardly prerequisites for a firm democracy. Trump would be envious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabradelmar Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 The USA is confused... The headline should be Thailand encouraged by Americans return to Fascism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOC Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Patience US. Sooner or (much) later all your allies will become democracies... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 5 hours ago, webfact said: US ‘encouraged by Thailand’s return to democracy’ as elections delayed Translation : We really don't give a rats bottom about your 3rd world country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biplanebluey Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 2 hours ago, jaiyen said: Read what Dunford said and you can see that it is all about having friendly countries in Asia so USA can have military bases in their countries and be close to N.Korea EXACTLY---------- I picked that up straight away -------- we're not all naive !!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerkinsCuthbert Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Just the usual diplomatic tea dance, nothing to see here, move along now please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 16 minutes ago, biplanebluey said: EXACTLY---------- I picked that up straight away -------- we're not all naive !!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altalake Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Why use one word when 100 will do? The usual verbal diarrhoea....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yann55 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 For the umpteenth time ... 1/ You cannot return to something that was never there, or to a place where you've never been before. 2/ Democracy and elections are two completely different things. Democracy is a set of principles, a concept, while elections are a mere technicality. When elections occur in a context that is all but democratic, they're not only useless, but actually perverse because they serve as a cover up for the lack of democracy. 3/ 'common democratic values' ... LOL... a lot of people in Thailand and in the US do have democratic values, but the US as a country (and they do have that in common with Thailand) does not run on democratic values at all. One may well ask if it ever did, as a matter of fact. The Founding Fathers had no trust whatsoever in 'the people', what they wanted was a country where the 'masses' were under tight control (OK, with a pinch of Christian compassion) of the ruling elite, ie themselves and their peers. In effect that country is still run by an oligarchy of self-appointed, non elected, so called 'elite' (read : rich folks) who have total control - by way of financing - of the two political parties. It is worth noting, incidentally, that these parties are BOTH on the right hand side of the political spectrum which in itself proves the fact that there is NO democracy in the US, unless you spell it demockracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 What happen to good old USA that I use to look up to as world leader seeking to to advance human rights and fundamental freedom around the world. When face with a country that was robbed of an elected government and all forms of freedom violated, they become a pussy making sweet nothing remarks. Shameful and losing respect everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timewilltell Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Thailand - one big con. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winky Wilson Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Thailand is a Royal Monarchy. The military is an extension of the Royal Family. A prime minister is a spokes person. If a prime minister acts otherwise he/she should be cautious and be prepared to flea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunsetT Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 2 hours ago, tonray said: Don't call people names it shows ignorance when you cannot have a rational discussion and resort to parroting Hannity and Limbaugh. Have a good day Yes, Ive noticed this US tendency of school playground name calling before. Is it an indicator of the cultural and psychological maturity of the USA as a whole? We should not forget that the country and its culture is only 250 or so years old.......Quite scary really when we consider the power it weilds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isaanbanhou Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, timewilltell said: Thailand - one big con. US of A - one extraordinary massive big con when it comes to supporting democracy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunsetT Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 2 hours ago, Lupatria said: Shouldn't it read: even under any unlawful and anti democratic administration, as long as it serves our interest? God Bless America.........Land of the free and hypocrisy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy cow cm Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 No Comment is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod reborn Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 In the midst of Russian hacking of US elections, one must wonder when the US will return to democratic elections? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy cow cm Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 I hope someone in control doesn't start saying: "God Bless Thailand". Then they would have to make a song too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oyster Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 4 hours ago, Thailand said: Even more so, this is a spin that doesn't! Eden Snake and Apple spring to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordguy61mi Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 4 hours ago, tonray said: If you look at what elections have brought the USA, perhaps a delay is not such a bad idea I guess that depends on your perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natway09 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Not sure there are many countries left with "true democracy" certainly not the US. What the hell has it got to do with them anyway ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 24 minutes ago, holy cow cm said: I hope someone in control doesn't start saying: "God Bless Thailand". Then they would have to make a song too. no ... he'll start saying ... ' May Buddha bless Thailand ' .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKDfella Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Well, I wonder what the ambassador thinks after this morning's news that the two laws being waited on are now in danger of rejection? According to what I read this morning, the CDC and EC don't agree with the NLA's adjustments and it could go to the constitutional courts. The delay could be up to 2 years and apparently, in the worse case scenario, elections could be delayed indefinitely. Well, well well....who'd have thought it eh? Just about equates with what forum members have said previously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falangjim Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Wasn't this the same Ambassador who was nearly drummed out of the country for having 'negative' comments a few years back at a commencement speech? Talk about being cowed. I guess everyone needs a job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai Dee Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Several off-topic troll posts have been removed from this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky mike Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 the truth another victim ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesimps Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 5 hours ago, tonray said: If you look at what elections have brought the USA, perhaps a delay is not such a bad idea If you mean the democratic election of a govt by the people, can't see anything wrong with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marqus12 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 No one cares what the world's largest parasite that only produces dollars want . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibbler Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 So much for democracy, your Government is dysfunctional and about to shutdown, and your military and public servants won't be getting paid when that happens. And your President says he "would love" to see a shutdown! Even with a Thai-style democracy which is not democracy at all but a patronage system where people pay homage to the elite and powerful, public servants still get paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigermoth Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 5 hours ago, jaiyen said: Read what Dunford said and you can see that it is all about having friendly countries in Asia so USA can have military bases in their countries and be close to N.Korea Exactly. USA is putting the Thai people last, just as the Junta have, for fear that China will become too friendly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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