webfact Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Air quality is fine in Thailand as Thais say Chinese are exaggerating Picture: Thai News Agency The Department of Pollution control have said that dust in the air is normal for this time of the year and is just the result of still air in the cool season. They have said a Chinese website who claimed it was dangerous have overstated the risks. While admitting that it was a bit unhealthy and that those with respiratory problems might be more at risk, Talerngsak Petchsuwan played down any risks. Picture: Thai News Agency He said that it was all relatively normal for this time of the year. In 2016-17 the worst point was February - it came earlier in January this year because of the effect of cool season fluctuations. Normal people would not have any problems he said as he criticized the Chinese air quality website "Worldwide Air Quality" for following a US based assessment system that exaggerated the problems. If the Thai system was used it was all quite safe. The Chinese claimed that levels were three times the level of safety of particulate in the air which was overstating the case, said Talerngsak who had plenty of graphs to back up his assertions in the TNA report. Source: Thai News Agency -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2018-02-13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badischer Barde Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Honestly, if the Chinese say your air quality is bad you should worry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davehowden Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 " If the Thai system was used it was all quite safe. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisY1 Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 6 minutes ago, davehowden said: " If the Thai system was used it was all quite safe. " Such a classic Thai statement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arithai12 Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Except that PM2.5 isn't dust, it's primarily from pollution and can be quite nasty for your lungs. But not for Talerngsak's lungs probably, since I suspect he never spends much time outdoors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davehowden Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 10 minutes ago, ChrisY1 said: Such a classic Thai statement Do they all attend the same course on "How to Appear Stupid" I wonder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliotness Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 You only have to see the smoke/haze in the dawn sky and the red sun to know that all is not good in the air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahab Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Where I live it has been "snowing" black ash on and off over the last couple of months. Nothing to see here, can we next see the graphs on how road fatalities are also not an issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoilSpoil Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 The ignorance is stunning. Thailand in a nutshell, Im afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Uttered from the mouths of babes. Forgive them, they know not what they say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darcula Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 2 hours ago, webfact said: If the Thai system was used it was all quite safe. Yeah, time for the rest of the world to reinstall Windows 95. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chippy151 Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 I'm surprised this story didn't come out a lot sooner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coulson Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Lol, the Chinese commenting on overseas air quality, must be a problem so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salween Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Amazing we have to rely on China to get the truth out. Thainess in a nutshell, as real-time data's available for all--journalists too should they choose to look beyond what the government puts out. Have not seen PM2.5 below 125 in BKK since I started looking last week--and anything above 25 is supposed to be unhealthy, should one accept WHO standards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Yeah, time for the rest of the world to reinstall Windows 95.Windows 3.8.... may be closer to the claimed Thailand 4.0 [emoji107] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lingba Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 2 hours ago, ChrisY1 said: Such a classic Thai statement what a stinkin joke...bury your heads in the sand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibbler Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 This is the air quality in downtown Bangkok now http://aqicn.org/city/bangkok/ And this is the air quality in Chiang May now http://aqicn.org/city/chiang-mai/ And this is the air quality in Beijing now http://aqicn.org/city/beijing/ The Chinese are NOT lying! Bangkok air has almost three times the PM count and is UNHEALTHY. GoT needs to take action not ignore facts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex8912 Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 2 hours ago, davehowden said: " If the Thai system was used it was all quite safe. " He also stated the Thai system is accurate 117% of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorG Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 27 minutes ago, Lingba said: what a stinkin joke...bury your heads in the sand You can actually breathe better air if you do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simoh1490 Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 This is very positive, a country like China, upon whom Thailand's tourist industry depends quite heavily, making noises about the poor air quality here, it could be the catalyst to make Thailand take some action. We'll overlook of course the hypocrisy whereby there are some cities in China I wouldn't even enter without a bio-hazard suit but that's another story! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhonThong Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 If the air is so safe. Then why has the government ordered this? Seeding the skies over Bangkok to ‘make’ rain to help with smog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simoh1490 Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Just now, PhonThong said: If the air is so safe. Then why has the government ordered this? Seeding the skies over Bangkok to ‘make’ rain to help with smog Source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodney earl Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Yea. Right.!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klauskunkel Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 36 minutes ago, simoh1490 said: Source? ThaiVisa today's news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yooper Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 3 hours ago, davehowden said: " If the Thai system was used it was all quite safe. " would my scratchy throat also disappear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinnieTheKhwai Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Sigh: 1. It's not "The Chinese" who are saying anything. Chinese tourists are quite happy and indeed conditions in most of China are *FAR* worse than Thailand. What this article is about is the international air quality site, aqicn.org, which is based in Beijing and has contributors globally. 2. The main good thing about aqicn.org is that it takes data from all over the world, including the Thai-government-supplied data from Thailand, and converts it all to the US EPA AQI Index. This makes comparisons very easy. 3. Thailand has both an older PM10 standard (that's not very strict) as well as a newer PM2.5 based standard that matches the US EPA scale very well and is very strict. This new standard is not yet used throughout Thailand, also because most measuring stations don't have a PM2.5 capability which would lead to comparing apples and oranges, so they stick with the old standard for now. However they make the PM2.5 data available in near real-time for anyone who wants to use it, such as indeed aqicn.org, NGO's like Greenpeace (who manage to still compare apples and oranges) and a range of mobile apps. Note: the Thai government app from the PCD departement only uses PM10: don't use it.) 4. The government is correct in saying that conditions are pretty normal. Note that 'Normal' does not mean 'Healthy'. Not in English and not in Thai. It means that it's very similar to past years, going back 20 years. Read up or shut up, and that applies to The Nation as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainman34014 Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 As i've said before....In the Land of Denial, truth is a lost soul ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YetAnother Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 4 hours ago, webfact said: If the Thai system was used it was all quite safe. what a foolish man; in the ground-breaking documentary 'Under the Dome' (air quality in China) it was likely the number 1 point that PM 2.5 should be the focus; the 'thai system' does not focus on and consistently, across-the-board report on 2.5; thus the 'thai system' is inferior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YetAnother Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 4 hours ago, webfact said: dust in the air is normal for this time of the year why do thais constantly revert to this way-of-thinking ? the point is not that the dry season is worse than the wet season; that is typical thai 'relative thinking'; the point is whether it is dangerous , 'absolute thinking' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uffe123 Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 To busy spending billions on bullet trains that only the rich can afford to ride, but no money to put scrubbers on coal fire power plant smoke stacks, or money to clean up the air. But the government as stated will tell you the air is the cleanest/best in the world, that is why 50K people die from respiratory problems in Bangkok every year. Just drive behind one of those dump trucks spewing out tons of black soot/smoke. Yeah that is clean/ air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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