JAZZDOG Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Looks like Karma went 2 for 2 and Patty is just a wee bit safer place to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavemanwww Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 6 hours ago, colinneil said: Polanco said it was self defence, yet he has killed before. Sounds like a total nutter who should be locked up for life. thank god i was not in same bar with this nutter.long stretch in THAI gaol will take away much anger from his personnel!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 1 hour ago, yogi100 said: Even a comparatively wealthy nation like the UK has not got round to doing that where the vast majority of its visitors and immigrants are concerned and we admit more scoundrels, rogues, ne'er do wells and scroungers into Britain than Thailand could ever even dream of doing. How very true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunsetT Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 4 hours ago, UncleE said: In fact picking up the waitress by the head until her feet were off the ground is a nasty thing to do. So I'd say the American guy was just neutralizing an idiot, helping the girl out. And ....... .....The red mist came down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speckio Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 46 minutes ago, watcharacters said: Excuse me? Do you think it may be more accurate to use the plural as in "persons"? There were two undesirable individuals involved in this insane altercation. And they both hailed from countries that have great relations. think you kind of missed my point chief, but whatever sure Not sure how what you said really relates to or corrects the fact that I am trying to point out "the extremely negative view some people have of Thailand" In any case "Some People are trying to shift the blame of what happened to thai government for allowing these two people into the country, rather than blaming the actual 2 people involved in the incident" is that better? (thai people at fault for what happened not the farang that were actually involved) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marquis22 Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 6 hours ago, CockneyGit said: And yet this man can get a visa to enter Thailand no problem. Well done Immigration, keep up the good work..!! Agree .... I was refused a renewal SETV because the bank book showing I had over 20000 baht was not up to date. They really do seem to pick on the wrong types.......!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marquis22 Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 12 minutes ago, wavemanwww said: thank god i was not in same bar with this nutter.long stretch in THAI gaol will take away much anger from his personnel!. I'm glad I do not go to Pattaya or bars!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgdanson Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 3 hours ago, Donotdisturb said: Jup. Ever observed the regular pattaya monger? Rarely u will see a nobel price winner or advanced human being. Mostly you will encounter alcoholics, misogynists, perverts, low of the low, ugly, machos, loud, crying for attention (from hookers, imagine!!)... It goes to show which places you frequent. Six years in Pattaya and NEVER saw a fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRUSA Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Henrik Andersen said: Very intelligent answer To a very unintelligent post.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speckio Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 7 minutes ago, possum1931 said: When I crossed the Canadian border in to America, I was asked if I had any convictions for assault, like I was going to admit it. When I crossed the Mexican border in to America, I wasn't even asked for my passport, nor was my hired car searched. No wonder there are so many Mexican illegals in America. First question is are you white? second question what country is your passport from? If you are a US citizen trying to get home I am curious as to why would you be asked if you had any convictions for assault. Regarding your Mexico experience that's just mind-boggling unless they gave you a pass because of being white and a US license plate on the car? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunsetT Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 4 hours ago, Emster23 said: So how is that "good guys in, bad guys out" program working for you, immigration? ....And just awhile ago some poor guy was denied entry at Swampy when he honestly declared US jailtime for a minor felony 25 yrs ago: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupermarineS6B Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 I've been to Pattaya once in nearly thirty years, what does that tell you ? Can't stand the place or the low life it attracts........ Thais and westerners...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 6 hours ago, jak2002003 said: He only got 2 years for murder before?! I bet the family of the murdered guy did not feel like they got justice. He got 2 years for manslaughter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAIBKK Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 7 hours ago, ezzra said: One man is a convicted murder, the deceased is a known trouble maker and a bully, what a fine specimen of human being Pattaya is attracting, almost safe enough to have our monthy church meetings there... That's what the Thai mean with QUALITY TOURISTS... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speckio Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 54 minutes ago, WHYWHY said: So he's done this before goes to jail and let out to kill again He says he took exception to what was happening. The owners of this Club should have stepped in. People need to learn they can't take the into there own hands. No one deserves to die this way yeah, good luck with that... It's easy for anyone to say "Ohh I would have done this" or "someone should have stopped it" but human nature has proven that's not the case. soo many social experiments where people would rather just look the other way or not get involved. Very few people will do the right thing by putting themselves in danger. I used to think like you until I encountered a group people assaulting 1 man... I chose to keep walking instead of trying to intervene by rationalizing it'ts none of my business but the plain and simple truth is... I was afraid the group of men would hurt me also if tried to stop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavemanwww Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 21 minutes ago, wgdanson said: It goes to show which places you frequent. Six years in Pattaya and NEVER saw a fight. I was there for thee months of and on and saw a big fight every second week! Guess you were at home then after 9pm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duanebigsby Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 3 hours ago, miamiman123 said: How did he get into Thailand ?? He flew into the airport. They glance at you and glance at your passport and give you a 30 day exempt. Can you imagine immigration contacting Interpol. FBI, and doing a criminal background check while you were entering Thailand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Here's some official history on Polanco's prior criminal case: https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1138505/state-v-polanco/ Quote Defendant was an 18-year-old high school student at the time relevant here. Several days after the murder, a student at defendant's high school told a teacher that defendant had been involved in the killing of Cooper. The student had heard this information from a friend of defendant's girlfriend. The school reported this information to the North Miami Police Department by telephone. Two North Miami plain-clothes detectives went to the school and asked to speak to the defendant. Defendant was brought from *1124 class to a conference room.[1] The detectives ascertained that defendant had gone to work at a grocery store on the evening of the murder, after which he met a man he identified as Michael and was paid $20 to look at a problem with Michael's car. Defendant identified a photograph of the victim as being Michael. Upon gathering this information, the detectives concluded that defendant was the last, or one of the last, persons to see the victim alive. One of the detectives testified that he asked the defendant to accompany them to the police station a half block away from the school, for further interview. The gist of the detective's testimony was that this was done on a voluntary basis and that the defendant was not in custody. The defendant's testimony was that the detectives told him they were taking him to the police station and that he was not given a choice in the matter. The defendant and detectives then proceeded to the police station.[2] No Miranda warnings[3] were given at the school or upon arrival at the police station. At the police station the detectives questioned the defendant further. They obtained a consent to search defendant's car. After questioning defendant for an hour and ten minutes, defendant confessed to the murder. At that point he was arrested and given Miranda warnings. He then gave another statement confessing to the murder. He also told the detectives where he disposed of the murder weapon, which was not recovered, and where he disposed of his own bloody clothing, which was recovered.[4] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTIRIOS Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 ..nowhere does it say there was a fight between the two 'men'... ...this 'guy' saw someone that they described as 'drunk' (?) being abusive towards a waitress... ...management did nothing....who knows what transpired beforehand....this guy...a regular...was already labelled... ...the 'hero' jumps in and clocks the hapless guy then keeps hitting and stomping him even when he is unconscious...(?) ...at what point did he have to defend himself from an apparently out of shape and possibly drunk patron at the bar..(?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tryasimight Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 4 hours ago, Donotdisturb said: Jup. Ever observed the regular pattaya monger? Rarely u will see a nobel price winner or advanced human being. Mostly you will encounter alcoholics, misogynists, perverts, low of the low, ugly, machos, loud, crying for attention (from hookers, imagine!!)... So you spend a fair bit of time with these people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 And a bit more: https://www.rapsheets.org/florida/doc-prisoner/POLANCO_JOSE/M04985 So based on the dates here, he would have been age 18, an adult for U.S. judicial purposes, at the time of the crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tryasimight Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 3 hours ago, fimo said: Such criminals can easily enter the kingdom ? This is his second murder ? I'm married with a thai girl and I'm living here for more than 15 years, never had a problem with police/justice and still have to do tons of papers for my yearly visa extension ? That's not logical / fair. Well go and kill someone and you won't have to through the yearly hassles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dg1980 Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 In Angeles City (similar to pattaya for those who don’t know), every single bar has its own set of security guards... I see that Many gogo bars on walking street also have security. Perhaps time for soi 6 to follow suit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeyrobot Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Where is the CTV footage???? All bars have CTV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Deerhunter Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 7 hours ago, jvs said: And yet a country that knows of his criminal past lets him have a passport and travel!!!!!Well done very advanced western country keep up the good work.They seem to let anybody out but try to get in!!! It's called "Bad guys out, good guys in." Does it sound familiar? Good idea in principal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunroaming Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 So his friends who were supposedly egging him on and filming the "fight" seem to have disappeared completely. Surely if the Americans story was plausible his buddies would be there to back him up? Then again that would take some b*lls so very unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 1 hour ago, speckio said: First question is are you white? second question what country is your passport from? If you are a US citizen trying to get home I am curious as to why would you be asked if you had any convictions for assault. Regarding your Mexico experience that's just mind-boggling unless they gave you a pass because of being white and a US license plate on the car? Yes, white, and the UK, and a US license plate on the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captspectre Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 self defense is kicking someone in the nuts, hiting them with a chair, it is NOT kicking someone in the head numerous times after he is down. And it is not manslaughter, it is murder! lock this fool up for at at least ten years on a thai slammer, he will get the message. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujayujay Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Hang him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FitnessHealthTravel Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 He'll get more than 2 years this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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