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I think 2019 was a trend-setter. You guys, who are retired in CNX, should make plans. One day your health might not allow to comfortably travel away for 4-5 months a year and then you are caught in a smoke-city. Really a health hazard.

A few days ago I saw and smelled fires too - you are not alone. I ignored it and waited for the rain 1 hour later, because I have to leave in 3 weeks anyway. Really, the government wants me to pay 1M for Elite to live in that smoke? It is a joke.

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I too fear that 2019 was a trend-setter.

 

Two more years like 2019 and our family will be leaving CM for good. Unfortunately, I think there is about 99% chance of no change to the better. 

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I fear a total reset is needed, a full collapse of tourism and therefore the local economy.

 

Maybe then......

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On 9/26/2019 at 10:38 PM, rumak said:

i have plenty of air purifiers.   Just want a meter to check aqi  in the house and outside

Again, this device is ok.

Consumption much less than an other pm2.5 meter.

And shows the temperature.

Btw, while working the temperature is rising too ...

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I wonder if the annual PM2.5 concentration for Chiang Mai city would be > 60 ug/m3.

The usual is around mid 40s.

 

I fear for some of the particularly hard hit areas in northern Chiang Mai province and N Thailand as a whole, it would be very comfortably higher than 60 ug/m3.

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I saw the AQI near CMU going above 150 in the last few days.

When it goes down quickly it is only "luck" due to the constant rain.

 

I remember on New Years Day 2019 there was smog until lunch time at Doi Suthep. Then mostly January was ok with "only" some polluted days.

 

Now that I move out of CNX soon I need to assess the risk of smoke when traveling here on a 2 months trip. For me 2019 has showed that May was very polluted too - it lasted much longer. February I never know how early they start so it is a taboo month for me too. Already 4 months. With an AQI above 400 many people are just not willing to risk it anymore and if there is a chance that they "might burn" in January, I better do not go then.

 

It is really unfortunate, for some reason there seems much more to burn now and I would not be surprised to see more burning in December/January. So for those who travel here, if we do not want to risk it, we only come during June-Nov - rainy season.

 

I really hope I am wrong and 2019 was just an exception. But I have the feeling there is much more to burn - maybe a deal by the government with some sugar cane manufacturers etc.? Or more mushroom demand by China?  I understand everyone who has bought property here - it is not easy to leave and in many cases so difficult to sell.

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AQI 180 (112ug/m3) outside our walls right now.

1km away from main road, no local burning.

And we are only in Sept, just after the rains.  I can see a mass exodus from CM in the new year...

 

In the meantime 3M Thailand has placed a "2.5pm" sticker on their Filtrete rolls, and so its price is now up from 200Bht to 500Bht per roll. And don't even look at Lazada prices - the scammers there smell blood and are out in full force.

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I can't remember the air in September being this bad before. It's at unhealthy levels already. Looking around I see the Thai's burning plastic, land, and just smokey fires being lit everywhere. People are suffering all over Thailand and the air pollution has made the mainstream international news. Hoping the rains are paused, not ended. Surely it will start raining again in October. Right?

 

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Yes, I have the same feeling.

This morning / Monday, Doi Suthep was "dusty", cannot be only some rubbish - most stations are not active so I cannot tell the pollution levels. The few stations in the city which were active mostly were between 90-140 - really "scary" for a rainy season.

Yesterday evening everything just fire smell - now use aircon again from 18.00 p.m. onwards - just too risky that there is a fire again as soon as it gets dark.

Happy that I am leaving in a bit more than 2 weeks. If they already start down, what will happen in December, as soon as there zero rain?

It is really sad. I love CNX, but it is not the same as when I came here. Totally gotten out of control with the pollution I think.

End of the year / 2020 burning season will be the "confirmation" if this is a new trend.

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I am in Phayao and while it always shows AQI as 90 to 100, it looks almost as bad as March or end of February, the mountains often completely dissappear and everything looks foggy even at 3pm in the morning. 

 

I have a feeling the rains are gone for good and that this burning season will be just as bad as the one before. 

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Doi Suthep in CNX looks still dusty for me. Last time it looked like that in burning season. Fire smell today in the morning in some areas, but not long.

Am I the only one who sees that?

Thanks God I did not buy property here.

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First off, I'm not from Chiang Mai.   But if what you guys said that it's already bad now for the current rainy season vs past years, then i am afraid the annual exposure would be abnormally high already.

 

I know how bad it was for this year's burning season esp Mar and April.

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feels just like bad part of the burning season again. woke up with the apartment smelling like a campfire. go outside and smoke everywhere. the thai people dont care regardless , but us foreigners need to make plans to get out of here. its going to get a lot worse before it gets better. 

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There might be something wrong with their equipment or someone is burning next to it. The reading has now skyrocketed to 371. Generally the air in the north is pretty good right now, even better than Bangkok, as seen below due to some very useful rains. A lot of green quality air. Visibility is excellent. However the government has announced the cold season begins this week so enjoy these last few days. We night not see air of this quality again for the next 6-8 months.

 

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