Jonathan Fairfield Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Nanny in three year old physical abuse case claims child self harmed Image: Sanook A nanny paid 6,000 baht a month to look after a three year old child has told police that she did not harm the child - she blamed the toddler for self harm. Three year old Ormsin was found with scratches, cuts and bits of metal in the stomach. The child was snatched from a hospital in Singburi after being taken there suffering from the wounds. The child was found at the home of Rattikan who is a friend of Latphon, 25. The mother and father of the child left Ormsin with Latphon - a brother - to look after but he was not capable or willing and as their mother had paralysis he paid Rattikan 6,000 baht to take over. Rattikan has claimed that when Ormsin gets agitated the child self harms. She described the behavior as strange and said she had told doctors all about it. Police in Singburi are investigating the case to get to the truth of the matter after the father of the child registered a complaint. Source: https://news.sanook.com/5373670/ -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2018-02-17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coulson Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 "The police called the uncle - a 3-year-old nurse with a full blown wound. Metal in the belly After the relatives took the doctor. Nanny Nanny father Have children behave strangely. Pull Me - Scratch Yourself" Sanook is hiring native English speakers, unless it is really the story of the Century. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z42 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Thailand's jails are full to bursting with people in for frankly trivial things. However this wretched excuse for a person should be given the most filthy corner of the most squalid cell for this. I can't fathom how people can stoop to such levels of scumbaggery as this, it's just dreadful beyond words Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djayz Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 12 minutes ago, Jonathan Fairfield said: the child self harms. She described the behavior as strange The parents can't / don't want to take care of their own child so they pass it on to the brother who in turn can't / doesn't want to take care of it and passes it on yet again to a third party. Let's be honest about it, but for 6,000/month I doubt the woman was qualified or genuinely interested in taking care of the infant! Is it any wonder the child's behaviour is strange?!?!? It sickens me to see them passing children around. Life is dirt cheap here. Sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob12345 Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 19 hours ago, z42 said: Thailand's jails are full to bursting with people in for frankly trivial things. However this wretched excuse for a person should be given the most filthy corner of the most squalid cell for this. I can't fathom how people can stoop to such levels of scumbaggery as this, it's just dreadful beyond words Or maybe wait to see if the child doesnt show self-harming behavior? You are a bit quick with your conclusions. It can happen, especially with kids with a mental disorder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 55 minutes ago, Bob12345 said: Or maybe wait to see if the child doesnt show self-harming behavior? You are a bit quick with your conclusions. It can happen, especially with kids with a mental disorder. Yes let them investigate it.. I would hate to be accused of something I did not.. or have someone who did something horrible get away with it. A good investigation is needed, i am not sure that that is easy (no expert here) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YetAnother Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 20 hours ago, Jonathan Fairfield said: she blamed the toddler for self harm someone should collect and publish a listing of the ridiculous thai excuses we hear, seemingly ,on a daily basis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob12345 Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 1 hour ago, YetAnother said: someone should collect and publish a listing of the ridiculous thai excuses we hear, seemingly ,on a daily basis Have you ever worked with children with mental illnesses? My guess is you haven't. But don't let that come in your way of drawing conclusions prematurely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansnl Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 11 minutes ago, Bob12345 said: Have you ever worked with children with mental illnesses? My guess is you haven't. But don't let that come in your way of drawing conclusions prematurely. Amen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotBkk Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 3 hours ago, Bob12345 said: Or maybe wait to see if the child doesnt show self-harming behavior? You are a bit quick with your conclusions. It can happen, especially with kids with a mental disorder. I'd put a bet on it the kid Never self-harmed sounds like a loada shit if you ask me mate .................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 If she is responsible she needs a good horsewhipping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonhia Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 Personally, I do not believe the nanny. I hope my opinion is wrong? Abuse of any defenceless infant, even to the age of adulthood, is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob12345 Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 7 hours ago, ScotBkk said: I'd put a bet on it the kid Never self-harmed sounds like a loada shit if you ask me mate .................. You seem so sure, 1:1000 seems fair? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 9 hours ago, Bob12345 said: Have you ever worked with children with mental illnesses? My guess is you haven't. But don't let that come in your way of drawing conclusions prematurely. I have worked with children who have special needs and learning difficulties. Never seen a 3 year old self harm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 As the joint owner of a 3 year old she or me would be in hospital or jail or both disgusting filthy rancid scum in any culture . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob12345 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 10 hours ago, Bluespunk said: I have worked with children who have special needs and learning difficulties. Never seen a 3 year old self harm. Good for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oziex1 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Self harm or not, she is responsible for the child's welfare, why wasn't she caring for the youngster. It was her job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornishcarlos Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, Oziex1 said: Self harm or not, she is responsible for the child's welfare, why wasn't she caring for the youngster. It was her job. 6k a month does not get you much responsibility/care... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Bob12345 said: Good for you. Always happy to help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM07 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Of course it must have been self- harming! After all, Thais love their children and are real good family - people...as indicated by the fact, that the toddler was passed on from the parents to another family-member to a hired nanny...for THB 6.000! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotBkk Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 17 hours ago, Bob12345 said: You seem so sure, 1:1000 seems fair? Lets wait and see who's right mate ................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob12345 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 13 minutes ago, ScotBkk said: Lets wait and see who's right mate ................. The outcome does not matter, just as me predicting correctly who will win the World Cup soccer next time does not make me a prophet. The point is to first hear both sides of the story and let fact finding tell which side is most accurate. Based on that sentencing should follow. Most likely your prediction will be correct as it is much more likely that the nanny abused the child than the child showing self-harming tendencies. A simple statistical analysis would show that without even knowing any background of the story. But that doesn't mean that everyone who has a child with bruises should be in jail. If you let every person in the world flip a coin with the goal to get "tails" as many times in a row, there is a good chance someone will manage to get tails 32 times in a row. That doesn't make him the "best coin flipper" in the world, it just makes him lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotBkk Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 8 minutes ago, Bob12345 said: The outcome does not matter, just as me predicting correctly who will win the World Cup soccer next time does not make me a prophet. The point is to first hear both sides of the story and let fact finding tell which side is most accurate. Based on that sentencing should follow. Most likely your prediction will be correct as it is much more likely that the nanny abused the child than the child showing self-harming tendencies. A simple statistical analysis would show that without even knowing any background of the story. But that doesn't mean that everyone who has a child with bruises should be in jail. If you let every person in the world flip a coin with the goal to get "tails" as many times in a row, there is a good chance someone will manage to get tails 32 times in a row. That doesn't make him the "best coin flipper" in the world, it just makes him lucky. Funny, you should say that. Yesterday we flipped the coin to see who buys the drinks. Needless to say, I called Heads and won lol .................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Miller Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 A quick scan of articles indicates that while very unusual it is not unknown for toddlers that young to self harm. Yes, investigation is in order. Even if the nanny is in the clear a self harming toddler needs care beyond the scope of the average 6,000 baht nanny, I expect. I hope something can be done to help this baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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