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BANGKOK 21 February 2019 22:37
HullyGully

90 Day Reporting - Online

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Compare complaints to favorable posts on any topic here. 

 

Maybe those who fail are posting in hope of getting some help or answers while others succeed and just move on. 

 

But you should probably just use another option. 

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Without sitting down next to someone who is trying to submit their online 90 report online and failing, it's difficult to determine the nature of the problem.  For example, it appeared that I "failed" in my most recent attempt to submit Hubby's 90 day report, until I carefully reviewed what I had submitted and realized I had listed his birth year as 2018.  Oops.  Tried again with correct year and it worked.  

 

You have to have an attention to detail to use the online system.

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Agreed that the system requires a lot of attention to detail. One wrong move and it won’t let you get past the dreaded “report to immigration” message. Once I was off by a day for my 7-15 day window and got the message. Others have said they finally noticed they weren’t entering the first two “alpha” characters correctly for their arrival/departure card ID and made the common mistake of typing a zero in place of the letter “O” or using “1” instead of the letter “I” (such “substitutions” don’t seem to be a problem when using mail-in.)

 

With many other “gotchas”, it is frustrating when an online system doesn’t tell you what you’re doing wrong. It demands a careful eye, a good checklist and a ton of patience. Many have found it’s easier just to mail their reports instead.

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I successfully submitted mine last Thursday 9 March (before 8am). It’s been “pending” since. 

 

My current 90 expires 21 March. As I’m leaving Thailand for a brief stint on 1 April I don’t care if IM responds or not. It’s in their hands and I’ve complied with the requirements to report, which they acknowledge.

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2 hours ago, jeffandgop said:

I successfully submitted mine last Thursday 9 March (before 8am). It’s been “pending” since. 

 

My current 90 expires 21 March. As I’m leaving Thailand for a brief stint on 1 April I don’t care if IM responds or not. It’s in their hands and I’ve complied with the requirements to report, which they acknowledge.

I believe a  "pending" response is not acceptable to immigration.

 

Happened to me time before last so I simply sent by registered mail within the timeframe, you might consider doing the same thing if it stays at "pending" for the next couple of days.

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14 hours ago, Thailand said:

I believe a  "pending" response is not acceptable to immigration.

 

Happened to me time before last so I simply sent by registered mail within the timeframe, you might consider doing the same thing if it stays at "pending" for the next couple of days.

I appreciate your feedback. I posted to see what others who had similar experience might contribute.  As it is immigration who has labelled the submittal "pending" I don't understand what you mean by it "is not acceptable". One could say the same for "accepted" or "rejected" as well, no?

 

Immigration acknowledges they have received my report of my address via their official channels. What I lack is the exact date when I would need to report again; which is moot when I depart Thailand before whatever date that may be.

 

I and others have sent the 90 day report by registered mail and have proof of delivery to immigration and yet have not received the nest 90 day reporting slip by return mail.  When that happened to me I went to immigration, they acknowledged they had received it and it had been logged in their system and they handed me my 90 day slip.

 

I don't see a difference with my "pending" 90 day report.

 

If you have more details on what you mean when you write "I believe" that "pending" is not acceptable where in this case I will not require their next 90 day slip since I will leave the country well before when that would be due I'd welcome that....

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There is an acceptance signature when you mail in by registered or EMS, there is no no such personal reference when you do it online.

 

I queried the "pending" status by calling immigration and it was they that suggested an alternative method as the computer apparently showed that no new report date had been logged since "pending". The only other options that show on online reporting are rejected and accepted. You may still get the acceptance as only a couple of working days have passed.

As for not getting the acceptance of notification slip back by mail that only happened once out of the many times that we have used mail in, again, a simple phone call to immigration confirmed that they had confirmed new due date. They had no idea why the return mail had not arrived, we use registered to ensure confirmation of receipt and a return 3 baht sae.

if you are leaving on 1st April you will be overdue and liable to a 2000 baht fine.

Just trying to help, your choice. 

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4 hours ago, jeffandgop said:

I appreciate your feedback. I posted to see what others who had similar experience might contribute.  As it is immigration who has labelled the submittal "pending" I don't understand what you mean by it "is not acceptable". One could say the same for "accepted" or "rejected" as well, no?

 

Immigration acknowledges they have received my report of my address via their official channels. What I lack is the exact date when I would need to report again; which is moot when I depart Thailand before whatever date that may be.

 

I and others have sent the 90 day report by registered mail and have proof of delivery to immigration and yet have not received the nest 90 day reporting slip by return mail.  When that happened to me I went to immigration, they acknowledged they had received it and it had been logged in their system and they handed me my 90 day slip.

 

I don't see a difference with my "pending" 90 day report.

 

If you have more details on what you mean when you write "I believe" that "pending" is not acceptable where in this case I will not require their next 90 day slip since I will leave the country well before when that would be due I'd welcome that....

The attached picture is a part of the Read Me that you must check the box that you have read and understand before you can go any further with the online application or checking on status.  This is a snippet from "After Application Submission" section of the Read Me.

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Just adding to those who have submitted their report online, and are still "Pending."  It's been 7 days pending for me. 

Since the due date is tomorrow, the 14th,

I called their hotline (1111) and was told that I could still wait another few days, and if it's still pending, I should print out the pending notice, and report to the office at Promenada.  Of course, the whole idea of doing this online is to avoid having to show up in person.

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20 minutes ago, MrBrad said:

Just adding to those who have submitted their report online, and are still "Pending."  It's been 7 days pending for me. 

 

Since the due date is tomorrow, the 14th,

I called their hotline (1111) and was told that I could still wait another few days, and if it's still pending, I should print out the pending notice, and report to the office at Promenada.  Of course, the whole idea of doing this online is to avoid having to show up in person.

Interesting,1111, isn't that the complaints hotline? And different to the response I got previously by contacting Promenada direct where they recommended I go an alternative route after 7 days pending.

 

Chiangmai Imm tend not to follow the normal guidelines and you may get a different response if you roll up at Promenada with your print out of the "pending" when you are overdue.See post 38 for more info.

 

Let us know how it goes please. Good luck.

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I appreciate all the feedback.

 

In the end it is whatever IMM wants to do about any matter, rules or not.

 

The 90 day submission is not a request for approval, by regulation.  So long as the report is accomplished without falsehoods or errors in the information the foreigner has complied with the regulation.

 

The attached picture is the header of the Read Me and the the TM-47 form itself is titled "FORM FOR ALIEN TO NOTIFY OF STAYING LONGER THAN 90 DAYS ", and IMM completes the submission at the bottom of the TM-47 under the header "

RECEIPT OF NOTIFICATION".  There is no actual approval requested by the nature of the form- if it is defective in any part by the applicant then IMM is required to reject it and if they do not then the applicant has met the regulatory requirement to report.

 

Finally, the comment above in #37 that "There is an acceptance signature when you mail in by registered or EMS, there is no no such personal reference when you do it online" I do not agree with. The online system returns a TRN when the online notification has been completed and completely correctly- any errors by the applicant in inputting the requested data online will result in no acknowledgement by IMM of the receipt of the applicant's online 90-day notice- and which I would argue is even stronger  evidence of a submission of a correct notification then one that is received by IMM via mail (which only acknowledges that an envelope addressed to IMM was received, without any review at that point in time by IMM on the adequacy of the applicant's submission).

 

 

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1 hour ago, jeffandgop said:

I appreciate all the feedback.

 

In the end it is whatever IMM wants to do about any matter, rules or not.

 

The 90 day submission is not a request for approval, by regulation.  So long as the report is accomplished without falsehoods or errors in the information the foreigner has complied with the regulation.

 

The attached picture is the header of the Read Me and the the TM-47 form itself is titled "FORM FOR ALIEN TO NOTIFY OF STAYING LONGER THAN 90 DAYS ", and IMM completes the submission at the bottom of the TM-47 under the header "

RECEIPT OF NOTIFICATION".  There is no actual approval requested by the nature of the form- if it is defective in any part by the applicant then IMM is required to reject it and if they do not then the applicant has met the regulatory requirement to report.

 

Finally, the comment above in #37 that "There is an acceptance signature when you mail in by registered or EMS, there is no no such personal reference when you do it online" I do not agree with. The online system returns a TRN when the online notification has been completed and completely correctly- any errors by the applicant in inputting the requested data online will result in no acknowledgement by IMM of the receipt of the applicant's online 90-day notice- and which I would argue is even stronger  evidence of a submission of a correct notification then one that is received by IMM via mail (which only acknowledges that an envelope addressed to IMM was received, without any review at that point in time by IMM on the adequacy of the applicant's submission).

 

 

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You are being far too logical, it will all end in tears!!

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1 hour ago, jeffandgop said:

I appreciate all the feedback.

 

In the end it is whatever IMM wants to do about any matter, rules or not.

 

The 90 day submission is not a request for approval, by regulation.  So long as the report is accomplished without falsehoods or errors in the information the foreigner has complied with the regulation.

 

The attached picture is the header of the Read Me and the the TM-47 form itself is titled "FORM FOR ALIEN TO NOTIFY OF STAYING LONGER THAN 90 DAYS ", and IMM completes the submission at the bottom of the TM-47 under the header "

RECEIPT OF NOTIFICATION".  There is no actual approval requested by the nature of the form- if it is defective in any part by the applicant then IMM is required to reject it and if they do not then the applicant has met the regulatory requirement to report.

 

Finally, the comment above in #37 that "There is an acceptance signature when you mail in by registered or EMS, there is no no such personal reference when you do it online" I do not agree with. The online system returns a TRN when the online notification has been completed and completely correctly- any errors by the applicant in inputting the requested data online will result in no acknowledgement by IMM of the receipt of the applicant's online 90-day notice- and which I would argue is even stronger  evidence of a submission of a correct notification then one that is received by IMM via mail (which only acknowledges that an envelope addressed to IMM was received, without any review at that point in time by IMM on the adequacy of the applicant's submission).

 

 

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My advice was simply based on the experience of more than one hundred ninety day reports over the years in various forms.

 

It is a simple take it or leave it, your choice is to leave it. Let us know how it turns out as it will be useful for others.

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10 hours ago, Thailand said:

My advice was simply based on the experience of more than one hundred ninety day reports over the years in various forms.

 

It is a simple take it or leave it, your choice is to leave it. Let us know how it turns out as it will be useful for others.

As fate would have it, I received an email from IMM an hour ago “approving” my online submittal.

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As with jeffandgop (above) I got my online approval today also.  Now I need to figure out what to print out.  There's a button marked "The Next Appointment (PRINT)," but nothing happens when I click on it. 

 

At least I got the approval.  One thing at a time.

 

Any ideas what needs to be done to get a slip showing my next appointment?

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