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BANGKOK 19 February 2019 08:21
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It's a crime: Foreigners marrying Thais now subject to fingerprints taken for criminal background

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Thought they would check bank accounts first...

 

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There are already strict laws in place, to make sure one does not marry to get a visa. I have a friend who has been on a retirement visa for many years. He is now changing to a marriage visa. The hurdles he is having to jump over are ridiculous. The process is far more difficult than a retirement visa. He had to bring a witness (a Thai neighbor) to the interview. They then sent an immigration official to his home, to see that he and his wife were living there, etc, etc. And he was only given a 30 day conditional visa, while the entire 80-100 page application package was sent to Bangkok for final review!

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On 2/23/2018 at 10:04 PM, hansnl said:

No, of course not.

Thai are all squeeky clean.

It does happen in reverse, when Thais come to America on a  K-1 visa they must have an extensive background check. Its only common sense.

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On 2/23/2018 at 11:29 PM, Maverell said:

It is a good idea for farang wanting to marry to have a background check, but it should also happen in reverse ?

yeah. I have read some people try to hire a Private Eye to check on the wife to be.  Not so sure how good the databases, reports, etc. would be, especially as many provinces don't seem to centralize records, and births, marriages, arrests, etc.. seem to not necessarily be centralized

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On 2018-02-24 at 2:15 PM, mark01 said:

Just another reason not to marry a Thai.

Can't see the advantage anyway, unless you want a marriage visa.

You have no rights in Thailand so marrying a Thai has no advantage.

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It is a good idea for farang wanting to marry to have a background check, but it should also happen in reverse ?
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On 2018-02-24 at 8:05 PM, Sumarianson said:

It is one thing to ask for this information as an immigration matter when entering the country. However it an entirely different matter when you are living in Thailand legally and are about to marry and asked for fingerprints. They are treating legally settled foreigners as criminals. What an invasion of your civil rights. Thai's make up more of the criminal element in Thailand than any other group. Why then are Thai's not subject to the same rules? Thailand is such a blatantly racist country and they do not even attempt to hide it.

 

This will not affect any "legally settled" foreigners (of which there is only a handful -- 100 per nationality per year).  Anyone without permanent residence (or citizenship) is not "legally settled" -- you are only a temporary visitor of one of many categories (be it retirement, tourist or other).  During the PR process you would have likely had to show that you had no serious criminal record, and a PR would be cancelled if you had a serious criminal record -- so it is likely not going to be applied to permanent residents.  A non-immigrant visa does not make you "legally settled" .... so your point is basically moot.

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On 2/24/2018 at 1:37 PM, dotpoom said:

"get a criminal record check and a personality profile check"

  Not sure what the latter is.....but a lot of guys I have come accross since coming to Thailand may have bigger problems with that one more than the first one.555

 

Please explain if you don't know what a personality check means why a lot of guys would have problems with that?

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I think both parties should have a check

Females to see what number this husband is and why they divorce first one and so on

Only fare to check both parties 

 

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On 2/25/2018 at 11:03 PM, spidermike007 said:

There are already strict laws in place, to make sure one does not marry to get a visa. I have a friend who has been on a retirement visa for many years. He is now changing to a marriage visa. The hurdles he is having to jump over are ridiculous. The process is far more difficult than a retirement visa. He had to bring a witness (a Thai neighbor) to the interview. They then sent an immigration official to his home, to see that he and his wife were living there, etc, etc. And he was only given a 30 day conditional visa, while the entire 80-100 page application package was sent to Bangkok for final review!

yeah, have read similar things.  I don't see many advantages to switching from retirement to marriage .  One is he can not work on a retirement but could work on marriage.  Another is the financial proof requirements are about 1/2 of the retirement

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Somebody needs their early Christmas club payouts...

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On 24/02/2018 at 12:29 PM, Maverell said:

It is a good idea for farang wanting to marry to have a background check, but it should also happen in reverse ?

And it does.

My wife had to get clearances from thailand and australia before being granted residency and then again before she was granted citizenship.

Similar as well in the uk and nz.

The 'not fair' blearing that goes on in this place from disenchanted clearly depressed expats is bewildering.

They clearly have short memories of what it really is like in 'good old back home'.

People from developing countries have it much much tougher when applying to live in so called developed world countries

 

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On ‎26‎.‎02‎.‎2018 at 11:03 AM, spidermike007 said:

There are already strict laws in place, to make sure one does not marry to get a visa. I have a friend who has been on a retirement visa for many years. He is now changing to a marriage visa. The hurdles he is having to jump over are ridiculous. The process is far more difficult than a retirement visa. He had to bring a witness (a Thai neighbor) to the interview. They then sent an immigration official to his home, to see that he and his wife were living there, etc, etc. And he was only given a 30 day conditional visa, while the entire 80-100 page application package was sent to Bangkok for final review!

It seems that outside Bangkok its much more complicated. We (my wife and I) were going to Chaeng Wattana with about 5-6 papers in my hand, gave this papers to the Immigration and about 3-4 hours later we were on the way back home. Waited the 30 days to pick up the extension at Chaeng Wattana. No Witness and no home visits were required.

Yes a extension based on marriage is more complicated than on retirement, but after I have done one, it's not that horrible as many like to say (or at least not in Bangkok). But I already was married for more than 10 years when I asked for my first extension based on marriage.

 

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On 24/02/2018 at 2:29 PM, Maverell said:

It is a good idea for farang wanting to marry to have a background check, but it should also happen in reverse ?

Agree both should have criminal check up before a marriage in thailand may be same in Aussie? if you or your wife or husband whatever case may be trying not to be gender specific, you both decide go back to your country of birth to live " my example > Australia she or he has undergo criminal record check + medical check before granted a spousal visa, " if applying 3 month holiday visa " must have a rtn airline ticket, you take responsibility for medical insurance and you can financially support once in Australia

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