jayci Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 I have a Toyota Hilux Vigo, which from New did not come with seatbelts for the backseat.Is it practicable to have them installed?It's the Vigo with the very uncomfortable bench seat in the back and the small suicide doors.Has anyone else had them installed? Costs?Thanks Sent from my Le X820 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canthai55 Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 They can be installed - the seat belt quite easily, the shoulder harness is harder. With the seat belt - as you have no factory anchor point, a 10cm plate under the truck behind the mounting bolt should suffice. Same for the pre-tensioner/retractor. For the shoulder harness, you will need to figure out where on the roof or the rear corner of the cab you can mount it, where it comes up from the tensioner and crosses over your shoulder. A look at a truck which comes equipped will give you a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 As it is illegal to carry passengers in that part of a pickup, why would you want to install seatbelts that the factory can't install? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 15 hours ago, Just Weird said: As it is illegal to carry passengers in that part of a pickup, why would you want to install seatbelts that the factory can't install? Why is there a padded seat there if not for passengers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Ask Toyota ? Or take it to your local shade tree mechanic they will know where to source the belts from a truck that came equipped that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayci Posted February 27, 2018 Author Share Posted February 27, 2018 As it is illegal to carry passengers in that part of a pickup, why would you want to install seatbelts that the factory can't install?Really, didn't know that. Considering it has a padded seat.Only in Thailand.Sent from my Le X820 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annunaki Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 20 hours ago, jayci said: Really, didn't know that. Considering it has a padded seat. Only in Thailand. Sent from my Le X820 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app This was brought up last year just before Songkran. It was part of the drive to ban passengers from sitting in the tray/bed area. The government advised at that time that the rear seat was in fact a cargo area and not really a seat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 On 2/27/2018 at 11:16 AM, giddyup said: Why is there a padded seat there if not for passengers? Why are there no seatbelts? Just because there's a seat there doesn't mean that it's legal to carry passengers there. I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, Just Weird said: Why are there no seatbelts? Just because there's a seat there doesn't mean that it's legal to carry passengers there. I I suppose the padded seat is there to cushion bags of rice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 7 minutes ago, giddyup said: I suppose the padded seat is there to cushion bags of rice? Perhaps it is. Perhaps it's there because Toyota manufactures vehicles for export to countries besides Thailand where it may be legal to carry passengers there? Perhaps it's there so Thaivisa posters can make fatuous comments about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, Just Weird said: Perhaps it is. Perhaps it's there because Toyota manufactures vehicles for export to countries besides Thailand where it may be legal to carry passengers there? There are no seat belts in the back of a pickup either, doesn't stop people riding there. Do you have conclusive evidence that it's illegal to transport passengers in the rear padded seat of a pickup? If not, why persevere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 23 minutes ago, giddyup said: There are no seat belts in the back of a pickup either, doesn't stop people riding there. Do you have conclusive evidence that it's illegal to transport passengers in the rear padded seat of a pickup? If not, why persevere? So what? Just because some people sit in the bed doesn't make it legal to do that. The fact that it is illegal to carry passengers in that part of that type of pickup is all the evidence that is needed. If you don't want to believe it, so be it. If you do not have 'conclusive evidence' that it is legal to carry passengers there, why persevere? If that space was intended for passengers in Thailand, seatbelts would be fitted by the manufacture as required by law, don't you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 On 2/27/2018 at 12:55 PM, VocalNeal said: Ask Toyota ? Or take it to your local shade tree mechanic they will know where to source the belts from a truck that came equipped that way. The type of pickup being discussed here never came with belts, or provision for belts, in that part of the cab. Sourcing belts isn't a problem, finding belt mounting points that meet safety regulations will be, that is why manufacturers don't fit them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annunaki Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Last year the government backed down from banning people from riding in the bed/tray area and at the same time they also backed down from banning passengers from sitting in the rear seat of space cabs. This was (apparently) only postponed, so that it could be enforced properly. The Nation's report of this: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30311524 From the story: The government originally planned to enforce strict new laws that would ban all passengers from riding in the cargo bed of pickup trucks and also behind the driver’s seat in extended cab pickup trucks. Even though this is not currently enforced, it could be bought into affect with only a moment's notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 45 minutes ago, Just Weird said: The type of pickup being discussed here never came with belts, or provision for belts, in that part of the cab. Sourcing belts isn't a problem, finding belt mounting points that meet safety regulations will be, that is why manufacturers don't fit them. Apparently they do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 14 minutes ago, VocalNeal said: Apparently they do? In Thailand? On a Vigo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Your original statement didn't mention Thailand Quote The type of pickup being discussed here never came with belts, or provision for belts, in that part of the cab. Sourcing belts isn't a problem, finding belt mounting points that meet safety regulations will be, that is why manufacturers don't fit them. So logically if they are available anywhere, they are available. The OP asked if it was "practical" looks like it is from the image above. As for mounting points the OP needs to lift up the carpet/mat and have a look. Likewise look under the door jamb plastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAKAPALITA Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 They sell Bog Rolls in 7/11 but you can’t...... in there.!.you can sit in the back squabs off the Hi Way.[emoji68][emoji264]Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 On 2/27/2018 at 11:16 AM, giddyup said: Why is there a padded seat there if not for passengers? For passengers, but that doesn't mean it is legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, stevenl said: For passengers, but that doesn't mean it is legal. Have you ever heard of a driver being fined because he had passengers inside his cab? If you can show that it's illegal, do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 20 hours ago, VocalNeal said: Your original statement didn't mention Thailand So logically if they are available anywhere, they are available. The OP asked if it was "practical" looks like it is from the image above. As for mounting points the OP needs to lift up the carpet/mat and have a look. Likewise look under the door jamb plastic. The OP didn't mention anything other than Thailand, isn't this about a Vigo in Thailand? He actually asked if fitting belts was practicable which it's not if they're not available and mounting points aren't provided. Having them may be practical though. Where are rear belts available for that Vigo? Are there mounting points in the model Vigo he is asking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 2 hours ago, giddyup said: Have you ever heard of a driver being fined because he had passengers inside his cab? If you can show that it's illegal, do so. http://www.buriramtimes.com/backlash-following-introduction-not-travelling-back-pick-law/ https://jimsrant.wordpress.com/2017/04/05/public-backlash-as-thais-slam-new-pick-up-passenger-rules-bangkok-the-thai-public-has-given-a-massive-thumbs-down-to-the-authorities-after-plans-to-ban-people-in-the-back-of-pick-ups-were-announc/ Nothing has be said that contradicts that report in those links so if you can show that it is legal, do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayci Posted March 9, 2018 Author Share Posted March 9, 2018 Spoke to the dealership today. And they say can not do. Also said if you do, it is possible that insurance wouldn't pay out in an accident because it is a modification.Or something like to that effectSent from my Le X820 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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