tgeezer Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 A few weeks ago when a ball came close to one of our caddies she exclaimed “กล้วยทอด!” Yesterday I heard another caddy use it. I have used it a few times and it seems acceptable. I would be interested to know that if anyone has encountered it, has it or could it become widespread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC 71 Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 I haven’t got a scooby doo ! Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digbeth Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 take it as a Thai version of cockney rhyming slang, the full phrase was พระเจ้าช่วย กล้วยทอด Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digbeth Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 another is ถั่วต้ม for affirmative but I haven't been able to locate the source yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgeezer Posted February 28, 2018 Author Share Posted February 28, 2018 Jolly good, thanks digbeth. I googled and see that “Oh my banana!” is the English! I am pleased with that. ถั่วต้ม meaning ‘affirmative’ is not so easy because I have never heard it used. The definition of ‘boil’ after the noun ‘boiled’ is ล่อลวงให้หลงชื่อเพื่อเอาทราพย์สินสิ่งของ Use deception in order to obtain property. (?) which doesn’t point to “affirmative” in ‘boiled beans’ to me but in the context of this thread one might say, why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanayahc Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 IIRC ถั่วต้ม came from ถูกต้อง (correct) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet memory 80s Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 I'm afraid it's not from พระเจ้าช่วย กล้วยทอด . Considering this exclamation phrase is normally used by media or urban young generation as a hip/cool speaking which most caddies probably are not . Most of exclamation comes from subconscious, something hidden in your mind . Seems nobody cry that long composition phrase out without thinking before in their head. Again I'm afraid you heard something more common for aged or rural thai women says which has similar sound but not the same and considered as impolite words since it involved sexuality or one's sex organ "Khuay - Thauk". When they speak fast ,you may have mishearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgeezer Posted February 28, 2018 Author Share Posted February 28, 2018 It becomes very complicated when trying to figure out what people actually say but sometimes easier to know what they mean. Is it not possible that วาว thought better of uttering ควยถอก and instead chose to say กล้วยทอด? After all “Ow! uncircumcised” is rather close to the knuckle and although we are a tolerant group one, of our group is the wife of a dentist, it could cause offence. It is common in English for women to say “Oh sugar” to avoid swearing, perhaps I am ascribing similar sensibility to วาว . I shall ask tomorrow and return with the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgeezer Posted March 1, 2018 Author Share Posted March 1, 2018 First Prize to Sweet memory 80s. I enquired of a few people and วาว meant ควยถอก . I am so naive! Only said by women so I asked for the equivalent for a man. People had trouble with that all they could suggest was เย็ดแม่ which I could interpret two ways; men are never ตกใจ or if they are they don’t show it by swearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digbeth Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Some Thais seem to have some sort of cultural tourette's where when they are startled, would let out long list, really vulgar expletives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgeezer Posted March 6, 2018 Author Share Posted March 6, 2018 On 01/03/2018 at 5:53 PM, digbeth said: Some Thais seem to have some sort of cultural tourette's where when they are startled, would let out long list, really vulgar expletives I don’t know it this is significant but yesterday, I discussed the possibility of a Thai using a euphemism for a swearword saying “Oh sugar!” instead of “Oh shit!” The reaction was one of interest but didn’t indicate that Thai speakers would do it, certainly it could not be said to apply to the case of saying กล้วทอด Instead of ควยถอก . That asks a seemingly simple question, why say พระเจ้าช่วยกล้วยทอด ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfdog Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 On 3/6/2018 at 8:21 AM, tgeezer said: That asks a seemingly simple question, why say พระเจ้าช่วยกล้วยทอด ? asking 'buddha' or 'god' for help in a situation that is simple is sort of like using God's name in vain... perhaps the idiom is used to describe people of that personality who would ask God for help in things easily done themselves. There is a book of Thai idioms complete with illustrations that is taught to Thai children. I have a copy that provides contextual explanations of the idioms, might be in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgeezer Posted April 4, 2018 Author Share Posted April 4, 2018 Surfdog, that is very insightful, maybe acceptable to some people. พระเจ้าช่วย is used alone too. One opinion of why กล้วยทอด is added is because of the rhyme, ช่วยกล้วย, and humorous because it is meaningless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgeezer Posted October 22, 2018 Author Share Posted October 22, 2018 Update. Today after hearing กล้วยทอด I tried ควยถอก which started a few caddies off, เรจจีพูดควยถอก etc. So while waiting to tee off on the next hole I asked directly เมื่อคุณร้องว่ากล้ยวทอด คุณหมายความว่า ควยถอก ใช่ไหมครับ and the answer was ใช่ค่ะ with much sniggering. So it appears that I was right all along. I also confirmed that a man wouldn’t say it unless he were gay which they also found amusing. Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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