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PM Prayut urges all parties concerned to help solve prostitution problem

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9 hours ago, AsianAtHeart said:

  Very few women desire such an ignominious and disagreeable "job."  Providing them better means of supporting themselves and their families would be the most efficient method of elevating the country out of its shame.

 

Don't buy into it: The poor little girl forced into prostitution sob story. That's what they want foreigners to think as they are parted from their cash.

 

The girls who get into this "ignominious and disagreeable job" as you call it have as much opportunity as the rest of the female population who survive on other jobs. The girls getting into prostitution (servicing foreigners) are into it for real money. They don't want mundane, regular work. They dream of cars, houses and living it rich just like all the other prostitutes in their provinces that scored big time in years gone by. If you gave them a real job most would quit in a week if not a day.

 

The PM has a simple way to shut down foreign prostitution. It's not hiding. It is flashing bright neon lights on expensive real estate. Bring in the soldiers and shut it all down. Roll some tanks into Walking Street, Soi Cowboy and Nana Plaza - that should do the trick.

 

He's not up to the task. That would require a man of conviction who's not all talk and no action.

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stop trying to solve things, it never works, things are there for a reason, Prayut urgently needs a new reason.

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There are 4 "farang" houses in a small village nearby funded by the partners of sister bar girls working in Samui. 2 of the farangs were kicked into touch when the build was complete, 1 is sending money from Aus, and they are just finishing off the swimming pool in the other place.  Who are the victims?

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It's all about the way foreigners look at Thailand. I don't see any plan to make really poor families getting money from other trades. A lot of these girls needs money to send home. Not all are scam or happy hookers.

Seems like it's all about face of the country.

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7 hours ago, SooKee said:

Maybe not the case. But way too many fathers (and the rest of the families including mothers and bone idle sons) are more than happy to sit on their asses at home bleeding their cherished daughters dry, placing ever increasing pressure on them to send more and more money home each month. I'm guessing they don't give a 5hit where the money comes from but I'm also guessing many are very happy it's from a pot bigger than what they'd have if their little darling worked in a 7.

 

I'm always amused by the people who see the macro picture and ignore that we're talking about someone's daughter(s).  Someone else's daughter, to be sure.  And that makes it okay.  Unless, of course, it's their kid that comes back to the village with AIDS that they caught in the trade.  

 

If the Elite would share a little of Thailand's wealth with the masses, maybe they wouldn't be idle.  If the choice is sitting on my butt for, well nothing, and working like a dog for $8-10 a day, I'd figure out a way to survive sitting on my ass, too.  Let's face it, neither one is a living wage in the era of globalization when they're effectively bidding against everyone in the world for that mango or pineapple that used to sell for almost nothing because it was going to be sold in Thailand and nowhere else.

 

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8 hours ago, poanoi said:

pride causes westerners to think that way,

but pride got nothing to do with it in a thais eyes, its money,

and on a second glance: what good does pride do when push comes to shove

 

So, you'd be okay with your kid (son or daughter) going down on old guys for money?   But it's okay for someone else's kid, because what good is pride?

 

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9 hours ago, impulse said:

 

If you can see it at all, it's a problem. 

 

For every $1 brought in by the mongers, there are probably $5 that families won't bring in because it's so in-your-face.  They'll go elsewhere.  To be clear, there is no "elsewhere" that doesn't have prostitution.  Just not so in-your-face that you have to explain it to your kids, along with what those big plastic schlongs on sale in front of the hotel are for, and why they can't buy those videos (at eye level on even the main markets) with the naked guys and gals on the front covers doing strange things.

If you have kids and have a brain you don't take them to places like Pattaya.  It is an adult playground and is exactly what certain adults want.  To try to change something because it isn't suitable for children is the wrong way.   Just make it plain in brochures and advertising and then leave Pattaya alone.  You will not drive out prostitution but you may well drive in more underground and then you can end up with no checks and balances at all.

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7 hours ago, thesetat2013 said:

You are deluded.. there were more prostitutes during the shin reign than now. And sex was sold cheaper by thousands of baht then showing you are clearly mistaken. Methinks you are just a shinfan lost in their repertoire. 

If you can manage to tear yourself away from the anti Thaksin rhetoric you might be able to grasp the point being made. The main driver of prostitution is poverty or at least financial want.

Redistribute a little wealth and the problem of prostitution is eroded , its hardly a novel concept.

Unfortunately this is the polar opposite of what the current administration craves , hence the desire to 'solve ' the problem by not talking about it.

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10 hours ago, webfact said:

change the image of Pattaya into a destination of quality tourism and not as a sex destination.

Did he mean ghost town?

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First, LOS was going to be the first country to eliminate drugs. Now short time. Good luck with either one!

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37 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

I'm always amused by the people who see the macro picture and ignore that we're talking about someone's daughter(s).  Someone else's daughter, to be sure.  And that makes it okay.  Unless, of course, it's their kid that comes back to the village with AIDS that they caught in the trade.  

 

If the Elite would share a little of Thailand's wealth with the masses, maybe they wouldn't be idle.  If the choice is sitting on my butt for, well nothing, and working like a dog for $8-10 a day, I'd figure out a way to survive sitting on my ass, too.  Let's face it, neither one is a living wage in the era of globalization when they're effectively bidding against everyone in the world for that mango or pineapple that used to sell for almost nothing because it was going to be sold in Thailand and nowhere else.

 

I'm always amused by folks with abysmal basic comprehension skills, those who quote others and dial in their own interpretation and incorrect assumptions about what was said rather than sticking to what the person quoted actually did say.  Indeed your outlook of it being being preferable to find a way to sit on your ass because of the national wage position rather than get of it and go earn so the daughter doesn't have to flog herself to death contributes just as much to the problem as anything else.

 

Where did anyone say it was OK?  It's just a fact of life here, whether it insults your moral code or not.  The fact that families put such immense pressure on their daughters to send the money home can't be ignored and I wouldn't mind betting there's a fair proportion who know EXACTLY how the money is being earned.  The ones that need to focus on it being someone's daughter is their parents and families, first and foremost.  Then they can wait for the elite to do what they're never going to do and then of course, finally, for the moral crusaders who will actually DO, well, even less, other than spout off about how wrong it all is to dial up their feel-good factor.  Doesn't change 5shit, regardless of how high, mighty and self-righteous it might make them feel.  

 

Effect of my thoughts on the problem, zilch, yours, same same.

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10 hours ago, webfact said:

PM urges all parties concerned to help solve prostitution problem

I was not aware it was a problem.I and many other men have no problem with it,

 It is a case of mind over matter. If the women do not mind it does not matter.

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