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PM Prayut urges all parties concerned to help solve prostitution problem

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2 minutes ago, gunderhill said:

I'd  have to disagree on the "rational" part in relation to Thais:crazy:

i think its more rational to value money over fuzzy 'values'

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4 hours ago, AGareth2 said:

but they are the law

If laws don't fit to reality, then laws can be adjusted. That's why lawmakers are there. 

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3 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Once again, the little man avoids the heart of the issue. It is his M.O. Dancing around an issue, and never, ever coming up with a real solution. Why is there prostitution in the first place? How do you get the women into a position where prostitution is not necessary?

 

Sorry little man. But, the only way to move the country away from prostitution is to get those very people who's fortunes you have been sworn to protect, to pay higher living wages. Convince them to part with a small portion of their fortunes. Unless and until the standard of living here rises to the point to where women can make a real living, this will continue. 350 baht a day for working as a cashier, standing on your feet for 8 hours, vs. doing one special massage for 1,000 baht? Graduating with a college degree, and alot of debt, after 4 years, and making 5,000 baht a month more than those without one? Come on. Who are you kidding? 

As always, articulately and powerfully expressed, Spidermike.

 

It always appals me that university graduates - even young Thai lecturers with M.A. degrees - earn a pittance in this country (only around 17,000 baht a month). Street vendors do better than that - and certainly taxi drivers! So where is the incentive to study hard and try to better oneself when one is just being kicked in the teeth by the System here? 

 

As you say, Spidermike, it is hardly surprising that some people are drawn towards prostitution when the alternative is all-too-often mind-numbing, callous and inhuman exploitation of their labour. So one form of exploitation leads to another (of a different kind) ...

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I......Get rid of poverty 40% at least and maybe the girls can get better jobs. These girls just about get by selling themselves. To many girls to few customers. Only a few make good money. And for most it is the only game in town. 

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38 minutes ago, djayz said:

It will take years, maybe even a whole generation, before that image changes. 

 

If these prostitutes stopped/had to stop working the bars, streets, etc., what other way could they earn money? Many of them don't have qualifications worth talking about or took up whoring because they could make more money than a regular job pays. 

 

Sad, but true. 

Bar girls and massage girls don't have qualifications?

Of course they do. Many have paramedical skills, and those should be supported in a hub of wellness - whatever Western women think about it.

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14 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Once again, the little man avoids the heart of the issue. It is his M.O. Dancing around an issue, and never, ever coming up with a real solution. Why is there prostitution in the first place? How do you get the women into a position where prostitution is not necessary?

 

Sorry little man. But, the only way to move the country away from prostitution is to get those very people who's fortunes you have been sworn to protect, to pay higher living wages. Convince them to part with a small portion of their fortunes. Unless and until the standard of living here rises to the point to where women can make a real living, this will continue. 350 baht a day for working as a cashier, standing on your feet for 8 hours, vs. doing one special massage for 1,000 baht? Graduating with a college degree, and alot of debt, after 4 years, and making 5,000 baht a month more than those without one? Come on. Who are you kidding? 

Great post.

 

I would add that if you want to provide alternatives and disincentives to entering prostitution then Thailand needs to dismantle the huge network of procurers and brothels all protected by and paying money up to the police that not only sustains and feeds the huge prostitution industry but actually pressures teenage girls and boys to enter it when perfectly viable alternatives exist.

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4 hours ago, webfact said:

PM urges all parties concerned to help solve prostitution problem

Easy.

Nationalise it, then it won't pay.

 

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A crackdown on prostitution would certainly boost his popularity with Thais even if it was only cosmetic..

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34 minutes ago, micmichd said:

and many happy Thai-Western relationships in fact started in a bar.

Financing relationship agreements you mean, sugar coated as "love you long time", that terminate when the money runs out.

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There is as much if not more prostitution in the us and any other country as Thailand - The only real difference is the price, most of the most successful girls in the US have good lawyers.  You can change the style and the location, but in the end it is about easy money at the level you can find it. 

There is no shortage of women looking out to hook up a guy with the cash, car, house or what ever she can get out of it.  By any other name it is the same thing.  That is not saying all women all like that - it is just saying a certain % will always go that route if they have the equipment for it. 

They (here or there) are just as moral as any politician I know of.

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PM Prayut urges all parties concerned to help solve prostitution problem

 

Most success in solving

problems comes from addressing the biggest issue...get more bang for the buck. And that's fitting here.

Close down the shops serving Thais. 98% of the problem solved.

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