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Tighter control on tourism-related activities on Koh Samui, Koh Tao and Koh Pha-ngan

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On 3/18/2018 at 3:59 AM, Kiwisailor said:

Would be nice to see the restart of the official fixed fares system that was put in place on Ko Phangan some years ago. All the old fare signs are long gone and now the songtaos show the ad they've produced as the "official" pricelist for travel on the island.

 

Arriving there and being confronted by the taxi mafia and their outrageous fares for a bumpy ride in their beat up old pick-ups was what convinced me immediately that I would not visit the island a second time. They made no bones about quoting more because there was one white face in our group (mine). Koh Tao was similar with the added scam that the hotel pretended to offer a “free” transfer but then claimed it had to wait for the next hydrofoil in 4 hours to fill up before it could leave without payment. But there are other reasons never to visit Koh Tao again.

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9 hours ago, Arkady said:

 

Arriving there and being confronted by the taxi mafia and their outrageous fares for a bumpy ride in their beat up old pick-ups was what convinced me immediately that I would not visit the island a second time. They made no bones about quoting more because there was one white face in our group (mine). Koh Tao was similar with the added scam that the hotel pretended to offer a “free” transfer but then claimed it had to wait for the next hydrofoil in 4 hours to fill up before it could leave without payment. But there are other reasons never to visit Koh Tao again.

 

Tao is second worst island in Thailand after Phuket.

 

 

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47 minutes ago, gamesgplayemail said:

 

Tao is second worst island in Thailand after Phuket.

 

I gave up going there a few years ago too, not due to any specific problem but it just didn't appeal to me any more.  Also the overcrowding at the airport, which was a breeze once upon a time, became intolerable and has apparently got much worse.  Last time I went to Samui it was hard to find anyone who could speak Thai in shops and restaurants and many of the hotel staff couldn't speak it either.  They were mainly all Burmese.  It didn't really feel like being in Thailand, more like being in some kind of ersatz Thailand in a holiday camp.  I guess that Phuket has gone the same way too.  So there is not much motivation to go to the South any more.

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Samui remains a great place to live if you give Chaweng & Lamai a fairly wide berth and keep your wits about you when driving.

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Thailand Beaches to Face Strict Rules to Undo Damage from Tourists

 

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BANGKOK – The Government of Thailand is planning to adopt drastic measures against increasing environmental damage caused by tourism on three popular islands in southern Thailand.

 

Starting in July, the government will ban fishing, fish feeding, anchoring on coral reefs, construction on the beach, and walking on the seabed on the islands, said Jatuporn Burutphat, director of the Department of Marine and Coastal Resources.

 

The islands include Koh Samui, Koh Tao and Koh Pha-ngan. Koh Pha-ngan is known internationally for its regular Full Moon Parties and is visited by almost one million tourists a year, while Koh Samui welcomed more than 2.3 million tourists in 2016.

 

Full story: http://www.chiangraitimes.com/thailand-beaches-to-face-strict-rules-to-undo-damage-from-tourists.html

 
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Why is it the tourists fault?  What about thai greed, corruption, poor management, and the lack of infrastructure such as garbage disposal, surely these are bigger contributors to the problem than the guests you lure.

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well i hope you lump in the THAI  WEEKEND TOURISTS , never witnessed such a lot of litter louts here in Jomtien on a week end. and they aint no short term tourists either, descend here in drove in their 4 x 4 s

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Next time you hang out on the beach, let your Thai wife throw the trash on the sand and in the ocean,- she will not be held responsible.

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They just don't have a clue, or at least pretend not to.

Tourists are not the main cause, well certainly not western tourists that are so used to not littering that they just don't do it.

I see every weekend the Thai tourists and locals leaving all their crap on the beach, they just don't even think about it and never take the crap with them.

Also a lot of this rubbish comes in from the sea, a lot of that originates from the rivers that are full of rubbish, also dumped by tourists no doubt.

 

Adopt the same approach as the west, or Singapore, provide rubbish bins, employ clean up crews, fine litterers etc. Won't happen as it involves work and actually dealing with the problem.

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2 hours ago, Thechook said:

Why is it the tourists fault?  What about thai greed, corruption, poor management, and the lack of infrastructure such as garbage disposal, surely these are bigger contributors to the problem than the guests you lure.

The headline is a little misleading as it says tourists, but the article states tourism, which is better.   It's not just the tourists, but all the businesses that get set up wherever there are tourists, food vendors, ski jets, tour boats, etc.    

 

A big problem is that garbage is not only simply discarded, but garbage cans get overflowing and dogs start digging through the trash and the next thing, there is plastic bags blowing all over the place.   

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I had been under the impression this is law already, so it is all about implementing it.

 

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3 hours ago, Thechook said:

Why is it the tourists fault?  What about thai greed, corruption, poor management, and the lack of infrastructure such as garbage disposal, surely these are bigger contributors to the problem than the guests you lure.

They just dont get it. You are so right. If the thais not take them there they cant go derrrr

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Litter on the beach, drinking on the beach, smoking on the beach, tourist doing nasty disgusting things with each other, drinking alcohol on the beach, tourist killing coral to name just a few things evil tourists do.....

 

Easily rectified......

 

Build 20foot electrified fences round them, topped with razor wire, just in case the wily tourist has bought a pair of Marigolds and some Thai electrician/Cambodian builders flip flops.

 

Surround the fence with rabid soi dogs and those blokes in brown in none active posts and a few rampant Lady boys wielding stiletto's and

Bobs Yer Uncle... 

Job done!!!!!

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3 hours ago, Thechook said:

Why is it the tourists fault?  What about thai greed, corruption, poor management, and the lack of infrastructure such as garbage disposal, surely these are bigger contributors to the problem than the guests you lure.

Hardly a concern unique to Thailand ... and the introduction of infrastructure to support such tourism is often a significant cause of the problem.

 

Of course, per usual, farang feel a loss of face if they're believed to be held even partially responsible or minimally accountable for anything gone wrong ... assuming also that they alone are designated as tourists.

 

It's a bit unfair to single out Thais, as if farang are blameless ... unless it's Thais who flock to such places as the Easter Islands, Venice, the Galapagos, The Valley of the Kings, Mt. Everest, etc

 

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Tourist hordes told to stay away from world heritage sites by the locals
From Easter Island to Venice, communities are up in arms at the environmental damage being caused by mass tourism

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2009/sep/06/mass-tourism-environmental-damage

 

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the conquering of Everest has seen a small but devout stream of climbers leave so much litter there that the base camp was described as "the world's highest garbage dump" by mountaineer Sir Chris Bonington.

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Even the UK has not been immune to the problems, with the standing stones at Stonehenge having to be fenced off from the hands of an over-eager public to prevent damage.

 

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The grave sites of the boy king Tutankhamun and of Queen Nefertiti and Seti I have so much humidity that fungus is growing on the walls. The Egyptian authorities are now expected to announce plans to close at least those three tombs down to the public completely, replacing them with replicas.

 

 

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