Airbagwill Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 19 minutes ago, Airbagwill said: I've driven this road many times and even in the photos you can see how poorly designed the road is..... and it was "improved" quite recently. The adverse camber you mention is probably an answer to drainage. However in most countries this is signed. One of the most basic concepts of road safety on major roads is to separate traffic flowing in opposite directions; this has clearly been sacrificed for overall width. The central reservation is so narrow that only a concrete wall not Armco can be used, it also looks as if the wall may be to low to effectively deflect high vehicles. The profile of the concrete barrier is crucial. With long straights and sweeping tightening (compound) bends this road actively encourages speeding, brake failures and accidents. A classic example of how poor road design and engineering can turn human error into a major disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron19 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 A number of off topic posts and answers to them as well as the odd flame or two have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvr181 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 On 3/24/2018 at 11:10 AM, Airbagwill said: A classic example of how poor road design and engineering can turn human error into a major disaster. Agreed and the designers/builders need to be (further/better) educated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airbagwill Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 1 hour ago, lvr181 said: Agreed and the designers/builders need to be (further/better) educated! There are plenty of road engineers in the world if Thailand decided to engage them, just as Thai industry engages experts and engineer from around the world. The roads and vehicles come under the heading of Engineering which is one of the 5 tenets of road safety. Road safety is a science the tenets are internationally recognised countries that have spent decades installing and implementing these measures have reduced road deaths and injuries to less than one tenth of Thailand's stats. Apart from anything this saves a massive lost of income in the GDP. Thailand is paying trillions for ignoring the science of road safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 25 minutes ago, Airbagwill said: There are plenty of road engineers in the world if Thailand decided to engage them, just as Thai industry engages experts and engineer from around the world. The roads and vehicles come under the heading of Engineering which is one of the 5 tenets of road safety. Road safety is a science the tenets are internationally recognised countries that have spent decades installing and implementing these measures have reduced road deaths and injuries to less than one tenth of Thailand's stats. Apart from anything this saves a massive lost of income in the GDP. Thailand is paying trillions for ignoring the science of road safety. Correct, however as this is Thailand no one from the top down cares as witnessed by the ongoing increase of road deaths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airbagwill Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, Artisi said: Correct, however as this is Thailand no one from the top down cares as witnessed by the ongoing increase of road deaths. This too is incorrect, there are several Thai, ASEAN and International organisations working in Thailand to improve and promote road safety and the general public are appalled and embarrassed by the death rates in the kingdom. The problem is that those in authority are totally underinformed about road safety and think they know best although in reality they are grossly unaware. So instead of a long progressive year in, year out program they resort to a series of ineffective dictums whose only real purpose seems to be to convince a sceptical public that they are doing something. Sadly without democracy and elections there is not much the Thai people cand to ensure in fugue, the people entrusted with these jobs are done so on merit rather than being a friendly face to the appointers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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