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I generally have a small smile on my face when walking. If I pass someone and we happen to make eye contact, I'll widen my smile just a bit, either nod or say hello, and keep on walking. I don't approach strangers with a big grin saying 'Hi! I'm me from Planet Zenon. Nice to meet you!"  If someone does this to me, I'll smile back and keep walking. If I'm in a restaurant and someone starts talking to me, I may or may not continue the conversation, depending upon the book I happen to be reading at the time. Please note that I did NOT say 'if a 'farang' approached me. I react the same way with everyone; Thais, Farang, Chinese, Martians! Just being open, but not particularly gregarious.

 

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In a small town or far flung suburb where farangs are a relatively rare event I would usually say hello if we have made eye contact. Not really in central Bangkok or a resort. It is amazing the lengths some people go to to avoid eye contact. On occasion people have stopped and made conversation, no problem, but more frequent is the response the OP quotes.

I wonder how they respond when a Thai occasionally says hello - ignore him too.? I once had one jump off his bike and came over to chat and he gave me a 20 baht note "for friendship". One valid point is that many are not English speakers.

But does it keep anybody awake at night.? I doubt it.

 

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27 minutes ago, ChouDoufu said:

could be any number of reasons.

 

1.  he's having a really, really bad day.

2.  he's simply a total douchebag.

3.  completely lost in thought, didn't notice you.

4.  recent transplant from china, used to hearing

    and ignorng a thousand "haloooo's" every day.

5. he's on the lonely planet circuit, pretending to

   be the first foreigner ever seen here.

6.  afraid of strangers in general

7.  thinks anyone approaching his is a scammer.

8.  been tricked into conversations by too many

   witnesses wanting to save his soul

9,,,,,

Are you describing sanemax.?

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What good traits do men have? 

 

They usually smell. They are really stinky, disgusting, foul bastards actually, and the more you think about it the more you know I’m right. Many seem to be arrogant, domineering and the worst are the pretentious ones. About one out of 100 of them will actually give you a good conversation, so that’s out too as far as odds are concerned. 

 

Women on the other hand, Thai women, they don’t smell, they politely say “Ka” in the most dreamy way after every goddam sentence. They’re not rude or obnoxious, quite the opposite actually. Most Thai women are very confident but not arrogant in the slightest. 

 

I just have have trouble figuring out why I would want to even engage in any way with a foreign man. 

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16 minutes ago, FolkGuitar said:

If I pass someone and we happen to make eye contact, I'll widen my smile just a bit, either nod or say hello, and keep on walking.

That's pretty much me too, in the past I've always ended up with the Fruit Loop if I've done anything more.

 

Pass me three times whilst shopping in Makro you may get actual words unless you're wearing a wife-beater and/or tattooed to the nines (RN tats do not count in the nine, but they're easy to spot).

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If you have class, you have it, and no need to talk so loud about it! Just my two cent. Being so expressive about how you are, and not are advocating others who have an different opinion than you to be that sort of people, is not how a man with proud class would do. 

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A stranger who says hi for no reason in an any urban setting is in my book a questionable character. I will say hi back, because it's polite, but then I will quickly move away. The OP sounds like the gushy type of person who will entrap you in unwanted conversation - the type I particularly want to avoid. Inevitably they will start with the personal questions - beginning with the inevitable 'what do you do?'. I don't share personal details of my life with strangers, and as it would be rude of me to say 'none of your business', I'd rather avoid the whole unnecessary discussion.

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We often get asked by total strangers "where are you from"? No greeting just the upfront question.  When I ignore the question the reply is always: I'm American. 

On our summer holidays in the Alps in Europe people you pass on the way, at a bus stop will always say gruess gott, gruezi or servas. It would be rude to ignore it. 

 

 

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They probably assumed you were a TVF member, and would commence to whine about everything Thai, Brexit, and Trump


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If I pass a farang I'll smile and nod, like I'd do back home, but what gets me are the ones that deliberately avoid eye contact, as if they are scared I'll ask them for money if they acknowledge my existence.

 

On the bus, I'll try to start a conversation with a friendly looking tourist, and have had some interesting chats, but sometimes I wish I hadn't bothered as some of them are weird, and it ends in one of those uncomfortable silences.

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58 minutes ago, Hummin said:

If you have class, you have it, and no need to talk so loud about it! Just my two cent. Being so expressive about how you are, and not are advocating others who have an different opinion than you to be that sort of people, is not how a man with proud class would do. 

I would say in Thailand class is shown by 'how you treat others who can do nothing for you in return' (That line is borrowed from somewhere)

Perhaps we have found the reason many farang are so miserable - they remain silent and insular to maintain some inward desire to prove they have class......ok right.... got it!

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5 minutes ago, 473geo said:

I would say in Thailand class is shown by 'how you treat others who can do nothing for you in return' (That line is borrowed from somewhere)

Perhaps we have found the reason many farang are so miserable - they remain silent and insular to maintain some inward desire to prove they have class......ok right.... got it!

Well this is going to a dead end discussion. However, Thailand is and will be a country who attracts all kinds of people, and some have class and some have not. Either way will not approve you have it or not, only by what you do. Simple as that, and walking around greet stranger, have nothing to do about it. I am not greeting stranger, but I will not be a stranger if someone nice approche me, I will be polite back, there is no question about it. I may not like it, but whats so ever, I have nothing to gain by being rude. Just know your timing, and do not disturb people unecessery. Is that to hard? 

 

Walking at a rural marked backcountry, you do not see any locals approaching you, and want to greet you, do you? Except they have something funny to comment, or sell you, they do not do that. I do not see my gf or her family going around and greet everyone at the marked either, and I think they would be imbarressed if did so to. 

 

 

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12 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Well this is going to a dead end discussion. However, Thailand is and will be a country who attracts all kinds of people, and some have class and some have not. Either way will not approve you have it or not, only by what you do. Simple as that, and walking around greet stranger, have nothing to do about it. I am not greeting stranger, but I will not be a stranger if someone nice approche me, I will be polite back, there is no question about it. I may not like it, but whats so ever, I have nothing to gain by being rude. Just know your timing, and do not disturb people unecessery. Is that to hard? 

 

Walking at a rural marked backcountry, you do not see any locals approaching you, and want to greet you, do you? Except they have something funny to comment, or sell you, they do not do that. I do not see my gf or her family going around and greet everyone at the marked either, and I think they would be imbarressed if did so to. 

 

 

Walking in a local market probably 60% of the people I will have nodded to and smiled at previously, they remember me and have no problem catching my eye and intiating a smile as they know it will be returned.

Of the other 40% around half will look over the foreigner, often I will catch their eye and smile at them just to put them at their ease :smile: the others will mostly be Thai male and I may nod recognition,  or be farang who will never see me because they appear to be searching the ground in front of them for lost change, or taking a sudden intense interest in the womens underwear stall on the opposite side of the path to me!!

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@473geo

 

As I said, Time and place works for most, if they not continius looking for approval of beeing seen or heard ;-)

 

Mr Bean is a classic example

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