webfact Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 In just two years there are 60 unexplained deaths of British nationals in Thailand: report Koh Tao//File photo There are 60 unexplained deaths of British nationals in Thailand in just two years, a new report claims. The Daily Mail citing figures from the Foreign Office says that between 2014 and 2016, 1,151 British nationals died in Thailand. While the cause of most of those deaths has been established, 60 are currently classed as “unknown”. The news site claims that the number of unexplained deaths “indicate a pattern of criminal behaviour, botched detective work — and, worst of all, police cover-ups”, in a bid to preserve Thailand’s tourism image. In a lengthy article, the Daily Mail reports on some of the highest profile cases of unsolved murders and unexplained deaths involving British nationals in Thailand. The report includes details on the murder of Kirsty Jones, the British backpacker who was found murdered in a hostel in Chiang Mai in 2000 and whose killer remains at large. It also features the death of 23 year old Christina Annesley who was found dead in a bungalow on Koh Tao. Christina’s parents reveal how the believe their daughter’s death is suspicious, despite being told otherwise by the Thai authorities. The Daily Mail says the investigation into Christina’s death was “botched” after her body was left in the heat of a temple, making toxicology reports inconclusive. “The police told us she had died in her hotel room and there was no sign of foul play. I believed them at the time. But nothing makes sense any more, said Christina’s mother Margaret Annesley. “It’s only as time has gone on and by meeting other parents that we hear of so many coincidences, and that has made us doubt there was nothing suspicious. There are so many unexplained deaths on Koh Tao. The Thai authorities don’t investigate them properly and we get conflicting information.” Other suspicious deaths on Koh Tao are also featured in the article, including those of Luke Miller, 26, who in 2016 was found dead at the bottom of a swimming pool and Nick Pearson, 25, whose body was found in the sea after partying on the island. Pat Harrington, whose son Ben was found dead on Koh Tao, is the founder of a group called Mothers Against Murderers Abroad (MAMA) and is urging the British government to investigate the deaths. “The Government needs to look into these suspicious deaths and issue proper travel warnings,” she says. “No family should ever have to go through the pain that we have.” Ben’s body was found in a ditch after being killed while riding his motorbike on the island. Police said he died as the result of a road traffic accident. However, his wallet and watch were missing, leading his mother to believe his death was suspicious. -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2018-04-10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worgeordie Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Unexplained deaths,I think most of them will be suicides, according to the Police.....case closed. regards worgeordie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeneeds Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Shoddy investigations no doubt, it happens all over, the world, Insurance , is never given a thought and if it is , then so easily dismissed, insurance to travel should be the law the world over, death coverage being part of such insurance, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seajae Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 unexplained deaths are always happening in Thailands, the right name, family, connections or money and thais can do as they please, a rape here, a death there and the police will look the other way, even allow the guilty party to trash the crime scene and evidence mysteriously disappear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabhand Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Rather ironic that TV are using an article from the DM as the basis for this 'news' story. Yet posters linking to any DM article is seen as being against the current block on accessing the DM in Thailand (even though it can be viewed via certain ISPs and also by use of the DM app, not to mention that other three letter method) and not allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod711 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 40 minutes ago, webfact said: While the cause of most of those deaths has been established, 60 are currently classed as “unknown”. Those pesky Burmese are at it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterw42 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, dabhand said: Rather ironic that TV are using an article from the DM as the basis for this 'news' story. Yet posters linking to any DM article is seen as being against the current block on accessing the DM in Thailand (even though it can be viewed via certain ISPs and also by use of the DM app, not to mention that other three letter method) and not allowed. I think you will find the DM isn't blocked any more, the link in the OP goes straight through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 54 minutes ago, webfact said: The news site claims that the number of unexplained deaths “indicate a pattern of criminal behaviour, botched detective work — and, worst of all, police cover-ups”, in a bid to preserve Thailand’s tourism image. Ya think???? The one thing that's always hard to tell here, in general, is... --where laziness and incompetence ends.... --and where deliberate inaction and obfuscation begins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesofa Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, Peterw42 said: I think you will find the DM isn't blocked any more, the link in the OP goes straight through. It must be ISP dependent then? I see the blocked message when I click on the DM link. I'm on AIS Fibre. Surely all ISPs should be consistent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 ....why now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOC Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 1 hour ago, webfact said: In just two years there are 60 unexplained deaths of British nationals in Thailand: A couple of possible explanations..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simoh1490 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Peterw42 said: I think you will find the DM isn't blocked any more, the link in the OP goes straight through. It's still blocked for me using TOT fibre in Chiang Mai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinBoy2 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Anyone who has lived in Thailand for more than a few months understands how the system works here. There are people above the law, and you can always buy your way out of trouble. There is no real justice system , it a corrupt system from top to bottom. The accepted wisdom from many on TVF is that it's all the RTP. I would argue the corruption goes much much deeper. The Thai apologists can, and will slam you for any criticism of Thailand, but in their heart they know it's true, often the fanatic harbors true doubt. Not being British, I know nothing about the Daily Mail, above what I read on here. But, I suspect that they are actually real journalists unhindered by the restrictions of Thai LM or defamation laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wow64 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Deal with it. You travel to a third world country you could die of a unexplained death or suicide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterw42 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 34 minutes ago, simoh1490 said: It's still blocked for me using TOT fibre in Chiang Mai Thats strange, I am on TOT in Pattaya not blocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingkenny Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 I think the Daily Mail is blocked for the main page whilst direct links to their articles are not always blocked. With regards to suspicious deaths and other posters basically saying suck it up, that would be easier to do if the cause is determined after being fully and efficiently investigated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the guest Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Daily Mail is just a crappy UK tabloid exploiting or indeed sensationalizing news. I would take most of the stuff published with a very large pinch of salt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Them pesky Russians... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxcorrigan Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 2 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: Ya think???? The one thing that's always hard to tell here, in general, is... --where laziness and incompetence ends.... --and where deliberate inaction and obfuscation begins. I would'nt say it's hard to tell "where deliberate inaction and obfuscation begins." once the culprits wealth and or connection are established then deliberate inaction and obfuscation, kicks in, with gusto and in earnest, if no money or connection, then revert back to your first choice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 To give the 60 a bit more perspective: Death in the UK in 2016: https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/deathregistrationssummarytablesenglandandwalesreferencetables V01-X59 Accidents M 8,319 F 5,729 R99 Other ill-defined and unspecified M 758 causes of mortality F 390 F00-F99 Mental and behavioural disorders M 16,700 F 31,510 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy50 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 The Daily Mail, an appalling rag which looks like it's written and produced by celebrity cave dwellers, and a bunch of illiterate 14 year olds from Essex. It is blocked here, but you can inflict it on yourself via TOR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Since brexit no one cares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLCrab Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 6 hours ago, evadgib said: ....why now? The only actual 'news' compnent in the DM story is the founding of the MAMA organization: "Many parents have now joined forces with other families whose children have died while backpacking around Thailand. Their group, called Mothers Against Murderers Abroad (MAMA), urges the British Government to investigate these deaths and to publicise the dangers of travelling to Thailand." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberfarang Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 It is known that many foreigners in Thailand get involved with situations and people they should never get involved with, a lot have severe mental problems, a lot are into criminal activities and many full foul of gold digging women of ill repute or crooked business partners and business competitors. Look into those unexplained deaths more closely and you will find they`re not so unexplained as first thought. Regarding the tragic deaths of Koh Tao, a lot of young tourists visit there to party where situations can become out of hand. Girls go there to get laid, drink and do drugs and the boys do the same. Who knows what these people and who these people get involved with? Even with all it`s bad publicity over the years, the island is still drawing in young tourists by the thousands each year and I strongly guess there will be more so-called unexplained deaths in Koh Tao and in other parts of Thailand in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siamcrut Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 That’s just the tip of the iceberg. Guess how many migrant workers disappear every year here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 5 hours ago, Bullie said: Why do families always want to have the satisfaction that a death is treated assuspicious, rather than just foolish behaviour, ignorance or just rotten luck on the part of their loved one? Because they are stricken with grief and want a sound explanation as to why their loved one(s) dìed so they can find some kind of closure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 3 hours ago, sammieuk1 said: Since brexit no one cares. You are just using this story to voice your disapproval of Brexit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrik Andersen Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Thailand want to tell the world it is safe but the number telling other wise if Thailand not realize online world is where tourists get their information and start act as a normal holiday destination with no corruption and start take care of the tourism it will slowly but surely die and go back to a fishing country but without any fish in the ocean I love Thailand and live here my years but I can't see Thailand get better just more dangerous for every year Good luck to anyone there want visit Thailand but be careful P. S I will never leave my family and Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YetAnother Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 13 hours ago, webfact said: In a lengthy article, the Daily Mail reports on some of the highest profile cases of unsolved murders and unexplained deaths involving British nationals in Thailand. veiled criticism of thais, which they, thin-skinned, cannot take Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thechook Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 That's just British, throw in all the other un explained farang deaths and see what the figures are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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