Keithsbd Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Ive been blacklisted 10years for overstay on visa. Im hearing many mixed stories. Can anyone verify what the situation is if you change name legally by deed poll. Can you get back in or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hathairat2711 Posted April 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 17, 2018 Another first timer. It's either a 'first timer' or 'a friend of mine' Enjoy 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ubonjoe Posted April 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 17, 2018 Risky since you will have the same nationality and date of birth. Some countries also record a change of name on the chip in passports now. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Swimman Posted April 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 17, 2018 Mmmm - You can try but you cannot change your nationality, date of birth or facial features. Remember also that attempting to enter the country illegally is likely to be viewed as a very serious offence. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post poanoi Posted April 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 17, 2018 (edited) how long was your overstay ? also, thailand isnt the only country in the world with tropical climate, there's plenty to chose from. as a last resort, if its thailand or die, join french foreign legion, after 5 years you will have a new identity Edited April 17, 2018 by poanoi 4 1 1 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenny2017 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 They're using facial scanners. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jenny2017 Posted April 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, poanoi said: how long was your overstay ? also, thailand isnt the only country in the world with tropical climate, there's plenty to chose from. as a last resort, if its thailand or die, join french foreign legion, after 5 years you will have a new identity What an answer to join the French Legion. 6 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 1 minute ago, jenny2017 said: They're using facial scanners. Apparently not enough to keep loads of foreigners from getting into the country (by land border crossings???) and later getting arrested for illegal entry in the series of raids that Big Joke and his police minions have been having in BKK lately. Swampy and DM aren't the only entries into the country. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Keithsbd Posted April 17, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted April 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, jenny2017 said: They're using facial scanners. I have a thai wife over there. My passport was stolen. By time my new one arrived i was on overstay. When i told immigration it was stolen and provided police reports they didnt care. Just said it was my problem and sent me to detention centre in Bangkok 7 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post anon789561 Posted April 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 17, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Keithsbd said: I have a thai wife over there. My passport was stolen. By time my new one arrived i was on overstay. When i told immigration it was stolen and provided police reports they didnt care. Just said it was my problem and sent me to detention centre in Bangkok if you try and enter just by changing your name and they find out you know where you'll end up then. best thing you can try to do is appeal if you have a wife IMO but i hear it's not easy or cheap to get a BL overturned though * also to get a ten year ban you overstayed a hell of a lot longer than it would take to get a new passport had it been stolen. are you telling the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth? Edited April 17, 2018 by Happy enough * 17 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Peterw42 Posted April 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, Keithsbd said: I have a thai wife over there. My passport was stolen. By time my new one arrived i was on overstay. When i told immigration it was stolen and provided police reports they didnt care. Just said it was my problem and sent me to detention centre in Bangkok You dont get a 10 year ban for an overstay of a couple of weeks waiting for a passport. A 10 year ban is for an overstay of more than a year, if they caught you. A 10 year ban is the penalty for a 5 year overstay, if as you say, you surrendered to immigration. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keithsbd Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Happy enough said: if you try and enter just by changing your name and they find out you know where you'll end up then. best thing you can try to do is appeal if you have a wife IMO but i hear it's not easy or cheap to get a BL overturned though Lawyer seems to think can get it down from 10years to 5years 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ubonjoe Posted April 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, Keithsbd said: I have a thai wife over there. My passport was stolen. By time my new one arrived i was on overstay. When i told immigration it was stolen and provided police reports they didnt care. Just said it was my problem and sent me to detention centre in Bangkok Are you sure it is for 10 years. How many years were you on an overstay. Unless you were on of a overstay for 5 years or more unless caught with it you would not of been banned for 10 years. See: New overstay rules.pdf 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Norbert Halfwit Posted April 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 17, 2018 11 minutes ago, Keithsbd said: I have a thai wife over there. My passport was stolen. By time my new one arrived i was on overstay. When i told immigration it was stolen and provided police reports they didnt care. Just said it was my problem and sent me to detention centre in Bangkok A 10 year ban is for an overstay of 5 years. That is sure a slow passport service you received. 5 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post anon789561 Posted April 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, tolsti said: You dun't reed too gud do u? He clearly states 10 years in the OP. so he is saying if he joins the foreign legion he can come back to thailand in 5 years instead of 10 as he'll have a new identity after 5 years 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Peterw42 Posted April 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, tolsti said: You dun't reed too gud do u? He clearly states 10 years in the OP. OP states a 10 year "ban" not a 10 year overstay. Maybe its you that doesnt reed too gud 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimman Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 21 minutes ago, Keithsbd said: I have a thai wife over there. My passport was stolen. By time my new one arrived i was on overstay. When i told immigration it was stolen and provided police reports they didnt care. Just said it was my problem and sent me to detention centre in Bangkok A 10-year ban relates to a significant overstay. Emergency Travel documents are provided within a couple of days. New passports can be obtained within, at most, a few weeks not months. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keithsbd Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 I didn't actually surrender. I asked immigration for advice. When i found out that immgration didnt care it was stolen i would have been deported anyway so took my chances but caught up with me 18months later. Big sign in detention centre last week says up to 1 year overstay non surrender 5years ban. Over 1 year overstay non surrender 10 years ban. Up to 1 year overstay surrender 1year ban. Over stay more 1 year surrender 3 year ban. More 3 year overstay surrender 5 year ban. More 5 year surrender 10 year ban Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon789561 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Keithsbd said: I didn't actually surrender. I asked immigration for advice. When i found out that immgration didnt care it was stolen i would have been deported anyway so took my chances but caught up with me 18months later. Big sign in detention centre last week says up to 1 year overstay non surrender 5years ban. Over 1 year overstay non surrender 10 years ban. Up to 1 year overstay surrender 1year ban. Over stay more 1 year surrender 3 year ban. More 3 year overstay surrender 5 year ban. More 5 year surrender 10 year ban so that explains it a bit better than your original post that will be almost impossible to overturn i think you can try the name change but you know you're running a risk and you've taken risks before and know where you could end up Edited April 17, 2018 by Happy enough 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keithsbd Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 Appreciate the comments but everyone is moving away from my original question about getting back in if change name. Ive had all the lectures and info about new passport arrival dates, length of overstays and bans etc. Thats happened. I cant change that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keithsbd Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Happy enough said: so that explains it a bit better than your original post Yeah. Sorry. First post didnt explain fully 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keithsbd Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 7 minutes ago, Swimman said: A 10-year ban relates to a significant overstay. Emergency Travel documents are provided within a couple of days. New passports can be obtained within, at most, a few weeks not months. 18 months total over. Non surrender 10 years. 3 years if had of surrendered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post overherebc Posted April 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 17, 2018 Probably cheaper to move your wife to where you are. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keithsbd Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, Happy enough said: so that explains it a bit better than your original post that will be almost impossible to overturn i think you can try the name change but you know you're running a risk and you've taken risks before and know where you could end up Think it was easy to do few years back but since chipped passport, fingerprjnting and face scanners. Im pretty sure your old details would be linked to new name. If not then every wanted criminal would be changing their name 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HampiK Posted April 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 17, 2018 One small question: If you can come back on a new name… You wrote you married to a thai. But how you think you will stay inside Thailand? The Visa on marriage to a thai will not work, else they will find out your real name. Or you are already over 50 years and can ask for retirement? But even with that and your address wich will be the same as from your old name… and you stay with a married wife, which is married to the old name… hmmmmm more risk will appear maybe 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keithsbd Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, overherebc said: Probably cheaper to move your wife to where you are. That was a thought. Also she lives couple hours from laos so that was another option for me to move there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keithsbd Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 1 minute ago, HampiK said: One small question: If you can come back on a new name… You wrote you married to a thai. But how you think you will stay inside Thailand? The Visa on marriage to a thai will not work, else they will find out your real name. Or you are already over 50 years and can ask for retirement? But even with that and your address wich will be the same as from your old name… and you stay with a married wife, which is married to the old name… hmmmmm more risk will appear maybe Yeah ur right. Another thing to think about. Had not thought at that. Thanks 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon789561 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Keithsbd said: That was a thought. Also she lives couple hours from laos so that was another option for me to move there i hear it's pretty easy to cross from laos into thailand without going through immigration. i wouldn't suggest such a thing, just saying 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 12 minutes ago, Keithsbd said: I didn't actually surrender. I asked immigration for advice. When i found out that immgration didnt care it was stolen i would have been deported anyway so took my chances but caught up with me 18months later. Bad move , you should have left Thailand immediately after getting a new PP and just paid the over stay fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Happy enough said: i hear it's pretty easy to cross from laos into thailand without going through immigration. i wouldn't suggest such a thing, just saying If he did that and got caught, he would face more serious charges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts