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1 minute ago, car720 said:

Which, of course, deserves a rhetorical answer.      :cheesy:

Tourist police don't usually handcuff and don't arrest, once they have taken a signed statement, in Thai and English, the criminal police are called to do the arrest and charging if this is warranted. The tourist police are there to help tourists in trouble, the statement made to them is a bastion against the police making you sign statements in Thai that you can't understand,you needn't sign any other statement just refer to the statement made at the tourist police, you have a copy. This apparently often goes wrong. It is law that a foreign tourist is first investigated by the tourist police to protect your rights before the criminal police can charge you, I think this is ignored sometimes out of malice or ignorance,there is a certain amount of tension between the criminal and tourist police. I had noticed that often hospitals were ignorant of the fact that a dead farang had to be first reported to the tourist police and they then do the rest, instead they call the criminal police instead so often the right hand doesn't know what the left is doing.

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10 minutes ago, sawadee1947 said:

Again one of those quality tourists of those quality countries with quality behaviour and quality education.... 

I think that Russian education is more than comparable with a British education

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13 hours ago, Peterw42 said:

Hopefully this incident will bring home the message that Police volunteers are there to help with translation/explanations etc "NOT" dress up like they are in a swat team and arrest/detain people or enforce the law. They are not police and have no police powers and should stop acting like they do.

Yeah I often wondered whether these guys are former bargirl boomboomaters who have run out of steam and chose to wear a uniform to compensate for their limp members?

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13 hours ago, nausea said:

I think you have to punch pretty hard to knock out a natural healthy tooth with your fist. I suspect the tooth was defective or weakened in some way.

Don,t care whether the tooth was healthy or rotten... just pushing someone is assault, not only should the rotten tourist be banished from the kingdom  ...nether to return, reparation for the injury &/or a few weeks in one of Thailand's notorious rotten prison cells

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On 4/27/2018 at 8:38 AM, Peterw42 said:

Hopefully this incident will bring home the message that Police volunteers are there to help with translation/explanations etc "NOT" dress up like they are in a swat team and arrest/detain people or enforce the law. They are not police and have no police powers and should stop acting like they do.

What else should I do with my Hummer, my SWAT uniform, my Uzi, and all the stuff that I've bought? 

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So he is a Brit ?  Correct me if I'm wrong. 

 

Police volunteers , I cant even imagine why anyone would spend their lives in Thailand doing this .   :sorry: 

 

 

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20 minutes ago, balo said:

So he is a Brit ?  Correct me if I'm wrong. 

 

Police volunteers , I cant even imagine why anyone would spend their lives in Thailand doing this .   :sorry: 

 

 

I've spent quite  a lot of time to teach them Passa Aengkrit and I believe that helping them can't be considered bad. Please use your imagination. 

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Some think that knocking a volunteer police officers tooth is funny.

I pity them. The day someone knocks their teeth off, it would be great to see if they are smiling!

We sure do live in a strange world.

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On 02/05/2018 at 11:18 PM, balo said:

So he is a Brit ?  Correct me if I'm wrong. 

 

Police volunteers , I cant even imagine why anyone would spend their lives in Thailand doing this .   :sorry: 

 

 

neither of them were Brits 

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On 4/27/2018 at 11:06 AM, oxforddon said:

Once again, people knock the volunteer Tourist police. No pay, long hours dealing with drunk idiots, buy all their own gear and uniforms and generally assist folks with problems or just advice into the early hours of the morning, and are in danger of getting hurt while doing so. There is also some serious misunderstanding of what they have the right to do. If under supervision and/or orders by Thai officers they DO have the right to detain, restrain and otherwise do what is necessary in all situations.

 

100% agree with you!!!!!!!!!! people like to criticize for nothing!

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Wasn't there, obviously, but it would be useful to know if the volunteer who got punched was involved in the initial contact at the bar, or was he on a fixed post at the Walking St. check point, which is where the assault actually took place.  

 

Clearly the suspect wasn't restrained earlier or while at the Walking St. check point, I presume waiting transport to the station.   Besides sloppy procedure, that suggests he wasn't combative at the bar or at the check point.

 

So what set him off to suddenly punch this volunteer at the check point?

 

Suspect certainly appeared intoxicated but very calm and coordinated as he was escorted (then in cuffs) into the station by a volunteer, as other volunteers stood around, including the bulldozer who got punched.  Which isn't a good idea either. 

 

Not a good scene IMV, and I would be on-guard against these volunteers getting utilized too frequently and in ways not intended, and after a while, you forget where the line is.  Moreover, the ones who are "supervising" them are ill-trained and sloppy to begin with.

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Three troll/derogatory posts all from the same source have been removed.

 

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On 04/05/2018 at 9:33 PM, ravip said:

Some think that knocking a volunteer police officers tooth is funny.

I pity them. The day someone knocks their teeth off, it would be great to see if they are smiling!

We sure do live in a strange world.

No we live in pattaya, where bored expats want to inter fear with Thai police duties. :bah::bah::bah:

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On 27/04/2018 at 7:10 PM, sawadee1947 said:

Again one of those quality tourists of those quality countries with quality behaviour and quality education.... 

We see many 'quality' tourists every where in the world!

Could be from ANY country. Ones own does not mean it is superior and the best in the world.

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4 minutes ago, ravip said:

We see many 'quality' tourists every where in the world!

Could be from ANY country. Ones own does not mean it is superior and the best in the world.

Mine is,....I pity you if yours is not.....:smile:

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On ‎4‎/‎27‎/‎2018 at 11:06 AM, oxforddon said:

Once again, people knock the volunteer Tourist police. No pay, long hours dealing with drunk idiots, buy all their own gear and uniforms and generally assist folks with problems or just advice into the early hours of the morning, and are in danger of getting hurt while doing so. There is also some serious misunderstanding of what they have the right to do. If under supervision and/or orders by Thai officers they DO have the right to detain, restrain and otherwise do what is necessary in all situations.

Pattaya had a bar scene for many years without any requirement for farangs to dress up as pretend cops.

Walking Street existed for many years quite happily without them.

The bar scene exists in many places in Pattaya without any sign of farang wannabe cops.

Why is it that only Walking St is blessed with their presence?

Why do they ignore the child exploitation that has occurred on Walking Street for many years?

 

If they stopped dressing up like cops ( which they are not ) and wore a big sign saying "translator here to help" I would not object to them.

 

If under supervision and/or orders by Thai officers they DO have the right to detain, restrain and otherwise do what is necessary in all situations.

Which is exactly what is wrong with the entire set up.

Farangs have no business doing any of that, under any situation, PERIOD.

 

Far as I'm concerned, they can go home and join the cops wherever they come from if they have a need to wear a uniform and stick their noses into other people's business.

 

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Any objections to foreign tourist police assistants or other such police should be leveled at the Royal Thai Police departments that created these groups and either suggested or sanctioned their uniforms, equipment, responsibilities and duties. The Thai police obviously feel a need for them and they are found and still recruited in other major cities inThailand. I can understand objections to any foreign volunteer who takes himself too seriously but maintain they are the exceptions and generally such volunteers provide a useful service.

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On 5/5/2018 at 10:42 PM, casimir21 said:

 

100% agree with you!!!!!!!!!! people like to criticize for nothing!

If a bunch of foreign volunteer police, working for dubious reason, hardly trained, no degree of personality analysis started operating in your country how would you feel. I am deeply suspicious of their motives. Indeed I am deeply suspicious of all police including the UK police force.  The few I have known were dreadful people at best and many rascist facsists and bullies who enjoy the power they have over other people.

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