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23 hours ago, khwaibah said:

Zero cost as this is a government sponsored and backed operation. I suggest you go back and re read.

I did read it, I wasnt asking how much your feed or the cattle cost, I was asking how much it cost to set up, what did you pay for the land, to build a barn, for the well etc. I wasnt asking you what you paid out of pocket but just for some round figures to guide me. I assume you must have some idea of what the numbers of are - were but if you dont want to help just say so. 

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21 hours ago, Notagain said:

How long is a piece of string ? I know one guy cattle farmer all his life just sold all his cattle as its not worth raising them, beef prices are way too low now. But hey someone will come along soon and tell you how they are making  money doing it, they just dont keep any records of their ROI.

I wasn't asking about profit, Im trying to get a handle on how much investment it would take to start a cattle farm of around 50 head. How much land would cost, building barns, getting special feed, what it might cost per month to maintain that herd. If like Kwaibah you dont want to help me for whatever reason just say so. 

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1 hour ago, dictater said:

I was asking how much it cost to set up

Post 74. "Zero cost as this is a government sponsored and backed operation." 

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Why would anyone be interested in learning about something that it is a money losing proposition ??? Maybe you should start with a study on cattle raising ROI first.

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1 hour ago, dictater said:

I wasn't asking about profit, Im trying to get a handle on how much investment it would take to start a cattle farm of around 50 head. How much land would cost, building barns, getting special feed, what it might cost per month to maintain that herd. If like Kwaibah you dont want to help me for whatever reason just say so. 

 

This venture as I have said is 100% government back and sponsored. There is very little if any private funds involved. The heard that I'm associated with is about 150 head and there are 10 more within about 8 km of me all sponsored by the Department of Livestock and Development. Thats over 4500 head of cattle. There is no way I could even give you an estimation. For answers you may be looking for try this thread as you will not get that from my thread.

 

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Hi Khwaibar

                  It looks if the breeding program  you are on  is going nationwide, I got in yesterday the wife said, 3 DLD lads called, not our local office, they asked if we would be interested in a breeding program,

The program is 3 injections of hormones, and then an AI, all free, she said no, hormone injection for us is unnecessary, all our cattle come heat themselves, normal 2 months after they have calved, as for servicing our cattle, not being local will they be able to come when we ask on time, or will it be servicing the animal 48 hours after the last hormone injection, regardless.

Our next door neighbor, is  going to try the program, he will have problems his few beef cows are thin, do not get feed, now just rice straw, no minerals are feed, he has a bull gets a few calves in a year, one was born last week ,a heifer calf, a bit small, wife said she has seen bigger dogs .

He has another problem no handling fertilities, how his cows will be served without any cattle crush I do not know, watch this space,

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This morning of free corn from the market. 

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Sweet Israeli home grown.

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Yesterdays work.

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One of the project girls that came with a bun in the oven stopped by for a banana snack.

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Impressive. Anyone who has had that as a daily chore, every day, understands what work is. Love to come visit one day.

 

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1 hour ago, IsaanAussie said:

Impressive. Anyone who has had that as a daily chore, every day, understands what work is. Love to come visit one day.

 

Anytime. Drop me a pm.😎

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A Brahma bull 15 months old with papers was added last night. He is now in the barn getting his feed bag on and checking out his girlfriends. He needs 68 bar finds at 500 baht to pay for him.🤣

 

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Hang on you crazy buffalo, 500 baht bar fines? 68 of them? Not to high per fine but headed in the opposite direction to what I remember. I need to know more!

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Brahman bull, he is about 40-50% Indo Brazil, looking at him I give him 15 bar finds, and he will be worn out, the wrong breed for your set up, with a lot of cattle with Indo blood in them, useing this bull ,will result in the offspring with a hihg percentage of Indo blood ,which will  not fatten ,all legs and ears. 

Looking at the back end of him, you would have a job to get a Sunday roast from him. 
IMO a Brangus bull would be better suieted, would need less feed, Indo Brazil need feeding well to get any thing out of them, also a Brangus bull would throw smaller calves, more suited to some of your smaller heiffers, some Indo bulls throw large calves, and you could get some calving problems.

Best thing to do with him put him in a shead and feed him up, for 6 months .  

 

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Hi Khwaibar

                This would be more use to you, he is 80 %, Brahman, with 10% Sahiwal and 10% dairy about 2year old, mum is a big cow, and red, with a bit of dairy blood in him that should come out in the offspring, make the cows a bit milkier.

I found him driving past a dairy farm, he was next to the road, the owner was more than happy to talk about him.

If he was for sale the owner said 45 000 baht, at least you would get a Sunday roast from him. 

Still, say a Brangus would be better, but he would be a good second 

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