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British man in Pattaya killed himself after amassing huge debts supporting Thai wife

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1 hour ago, ramrod711 said:

And the next lucky contestant is................

Yes you wonder, no you really don`t do you !!!!

But somebody need to stop here 

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6 minutes ago, Belzybob said:

With significant debt and seeing no way out of it, just how does he move on????

Go to Ecuador and stay there , living off his pension

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1 minute ago, Belzybob said:

With significant debt and seeing no way out of it, just how does he move on???? People are far to glib at ignoring the mental health issues that may result from the stress and anxiety that may have built up in the poor sod. Just hope you don't get yourself in some like type situation and have some schmuck throwing insults at you.

Maybe he told People at home he had a marvelos life in Thailand With this wonderful GIRL and that every thing was fantastic here. Hard to og back then when People would smile funny at you and say "told you so" and "you should have......." he just wanted a good life after a Lifetime of hard work. Hope he is in a NICE Place now.

REST IN PEACE

"What do we now"

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6 hours ago, sanemax said:

Maybe he thought that the Courts could take his pension to pay off his debts ?

 

Perhaps he did think that but it could not happe

6 hours ago, stevkob said:

 

Yes it is obvious and he chose the wrong woman but there's no need to put the boot in.

There are many over 70's who are having the time of their lives, unfortunately he saw no way out other than suicide.. it's sad really.

 

I am one of them.

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4 hours ago, phycokiller said:

its SE Asia. if you want a gf you have to support all the brothers and sisters and sick mamas too. best just to rent them short time.

 

Actually, no you don't, but don't let the truth get in the way of your bar stool story.

 

3 hours ago, transam said:

I don't......

 

Nor me.

 

2 hours ago, Kadilo said:


Not me. That’s 2 of us.


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1 hour ago, epicstuff said:

These girls know how to grind you  down in small incremental steps.  Bit by bit they'll catch you like the  adage of the frog that doesn't  jump out of the water when its brought to  boil slowly.. They all seem low maintenance at first & with these over sexed cuties it hard temptation  to resist for some. 

 

That might be your personal opinion (or that of your "friend") but it certainly isn't my experience nor that of most of my friends.

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12 minutes ago, billd766 said:

 

That might be your personal opinion (or that of your "friend") but it certainly isn't my experience nor that of most of my friends.

Just a question of finding the right ladies, that does not happen (often) while your on a holiday as you have not enough time to know the person and your in holiday setting. Plus a bar girl.. come on that is just stupid. There are probably good bar girls but they are outnumbered by the bad ones. 

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A very sad situation and I am one who finds it difficult to imagine suicide as the best option available - I accept all the comments about the ability to think rationally etc, but I just hope I never find myself in that desperate position.

 

Every poster on Thai Visa has a story and the deceased in this case is no different. The reporting (and many thread posts) don’t help us to see the real individual.

 

The deceased was John Edward Charles Toms who is said to have first visited Thailand in June 2012.

 

John was born in February 1950 so he had 62 years of a life in his home country before landing on these shores.

 

What do we know of his life - had he been married, had family etc back home. Reportage suggests that he was a “British businessman” and “retired from British Steel”. He had a pension of £1,163 p.m., was a father of one, his wife (whom he was divorcing) was 55. He became engaged to Thanyaporn in July 2012 and bought her a 36k motorbike in August 2012. They married sometime later (I have not seen when) although I fail to see they can “have a teenage daughter together”. John met Naritha (the girlfriend aged 49) in March 2017 and he left his wife in November 2017. She switched to a younger Dane and now lives in Denmark. 

 

I am just trying to assimilate the facts because I want to avoid the easy mistake of judging, or jumping to conclusions, based on news report/TV posts.

 

John would have have been in receipt of a UK State pension which probably accounted for half of what he received - the remainder being a British Steel occupational pension. This pension supplemented from teaching in Thailand. “British Businessman” - this may be based on the LLP business that was registered in April 2015 and dissolved in October 2016. Mrs Thanyaporn Toms was also a director of Sawsadee-Thai-Fashion-Jewelry whose registered office was in Tonypandy. This address is shared by Foundry Construction Limited, the director being Dilwyn Lewis.

 

John is said to have ‘burned’ £100,000 savings and was £50,000 in debt. that equates to £25,000 p.a. plus pension/income from teaching.

 

My interest in trying to establish a few more facts is to get past the sensationalism and judgementalism of the headlines etc. Here is a guy who saw no option but to take his own life. That is sad and should be avoidable.

 

Surely there were some family and friends from those first 62 years (someone Bank-rolled the £50k). Surely there were friends from the last 6 years.

 

As often, there are more questions than answers in this case - perhaps they should remain unanswered.

 

R. I. P.

 

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Brits sure seem to be having many many issues here.

All the problems and arrests and diving off balconies.

Geez, whats going on?

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2 hours ago, epicstuff said:

These girls know how to grind you  down in small incremental steps.  Bit by bit they'll catch you like the  adage of the frog that doesn't  jump out of the water when its brought to  boil slowly.. They all seem low maintenance at first & with these over sexed cuties it hard temptation  to resist for some. 

Sure, if one is a loser no brain confidence human liter box no gonad loser.

Unfortunately, many here just keep reading...

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5 minutes ago, bkk6060 said:

Sure, if one is a loser no brain confidence human liter box no gonad loser.

Unfortunately, many here just keep reading...

 

 

..... and you think the Brits have issues? ???

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How sad he did not have a few of the right friends to help him, RIP, sad story to read and may the fleas of a thousand camels infest her armpits. 

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12 minutes ago, Jip99 said:

 

 

..... and you think the Brits have issues? ???

Well, sure they seem too.

The highest arrest rate in the country for foreingers.

Everyday some major headline with a Brit involved.

Jumping off balconies, fights, arrests.

Whats up?? Brexit blues?  Just asking....

 

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Sad to see people getting off by slagging off the dead and others they know nothing about. 

Says more about the state of their own life's than that of deceased. 

 

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