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Court decides: AirBnB illegal in Thailand for daily and weekly rental

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15 minutes ago, JAZZDOG said:

Actually you could be arrested, jailed, taken in chains in front of a judge for operating an unlicensed hotel and possibly working without a WP. You would then bail out if you have 150K and have to check in to the court every 6 days until your case was settled. Happened to a guy I know.

But not if he is a thai airbnb player then its maximum a 500 bht fine..

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Well Airbnb seem to be getting all the flak which is gradually turning into free advertising for them.

 

 What about the hundreds of other agents and private advertisers that do the same thing ?

 

Anyway where are these tenants finding condos for rent ?  Google ? ( Does anyone go past the first page ? I rarely do )

 

Searches..... On google. Looking for Airbnb listing placement.

 

 

 

condo for rent.......Hua Hin.  Not 1st page

 

condo for rent.......Pattaya.  4th page

 

condo for rent.......Chiang mai. Top 1st page

 

condo for rent.......Samui. Bottom 1st page

 

condo for rent.......Phuket. top 1st page

 

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50 minutes ago, JAZZDOG said:

May I ask price you paid, if off-contract and selling price? Seems like one of the better deals I have seen.

We did ok but in hindsight we might have held it awhile longer.

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17 minutes ago, RickG16 said:

Where did this happen?

Bang Iamung, his story is on one of these forms about the raids on hotels

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19 minutes ago, Destiny1990 said:

But not if he is a thai airbnb player then its maximum a 500 bht fine..

Actually he was arrested and went to court shackled to 7-8 other Thai hotel owners. He said he got off lighter than them. It's not what you think. 

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22 minutes ago, stevehhd said:

Well Airbnb seem to be getting all the flak which is gradually turning into free advertising for them.

 

 What about the hundreds of other agents and private advertisers that do the same thing ?

 

Anyway where are these tenants finding condos for rent ?  Google ? ( Does anyone go past the first page ? I rarely do )

 

Searches..... On google. Looking for Airbnb listing placement.

 

 

 

condo for rent.......Hua Hin.  Not 1st page

 

condo for rent.......Pattaya.  4th page

 

condo for rent.......Chiang mai. Top 1st page

 

condo for rent.......Samui. Bottom 1st page

 

condo for rent.......Phuket. top 1st page

 

stevehh

 

 

 

 

 

 

All are booking.com/ Amari Residence/Base/Unixx/Centric Sea/View Talay6 plus many more in Jomtien. 

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22 minutes ago, JAZZDOG said:

Actually he was arrested and went to court shackled to 7-8 other Thai hotel owners. He said he got off lighter than them. It's not what you think. 

Sorry but i’am going to call totally bull#hit on that..

u better stop ur lame fake stories!

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15 minutes ago, Destiny1990 said:

Sorry but i’am going to call totally bull#hit on that..

u better stop ur lame fake stories!

Before you call anything bullshit maybe best you get up to speed on the subject and not talk out your ass. First, not my story but one that seems very credible and I have discussed it at length with this gentleman. The forum was: 

GUESTHOUSES MUST NOW GET A HOTEL LICENSE--ANY INFO POST #150

 

Lots of guessing and speculating here, I have first had experience with this in Pattaya.

 

Forgive very long post, but hopefully it will help other business owners and clear up the confusion

 

I have been running a boutique hotel in Pattaya for over 8 years.

 

I was not required to have hotel license, only room for rent license, which i have, along with all other necessary licences, including tax receipts

 

Earlier this week, i believe about 8 tourist police officers, rushed in from all sides of the hotel.

 

They were grabbing and touching everything, asking to see "bayanuyat", i have all my licenses displayed.

 

They did not accept that , took bookings, along with price list, receipts and everything else they could carry away

 

I was taken to tourist police headquarters  where i was put in the big room along with another about 8 people.

 

As i learned later, they were hotel owners and managers, in total another 5 hotels.

 

Since about 16:00pm, to 23:00 pm we were held there, while officers were filling out paperwork.photo's etc

 

In the end, we were told, we are all under arrest for illegally operating business and now would be taken down to police station to be charged.

 

Once we arrived in police station, we were thrown into jail, general population, Not the holding room but locked up in the cells.

 

Through some "negotiations" we were given an option to pay 150 000 bond, to be released but still to go to court.

 

I had some good friends "assist" me, i chose not to pay 150 000 and stayed locked up.

 

My friends, spoke to his friends and with small token of appreciation, head prosecutor agreed to prepare court documents in the middle of the night, so i could be taken to court in the morning, otherwise its 3-5 days wait to front the court, meaning 3-5 days locked up

 

Will not talk about the cells, unless someone needs to know.

 

Head prosecutor, suggested i do not request translator and speak to court directly(my thai was good enough according to him and again according to him Thai judges do like foreigners who speak Thai and go more lenient.

 

Believe it or not, but this is exactly what happened, Judge was about 1/3 lenient towards me than towards Thai owners.

 

Anyhow, if anyone need more detailed information about the raid and arrest process, just ask away and i will share.

 

Now on to getting correct license.

 

Putting it as basic as possible, but no chance in hell.

 

The new requirements simply can not be met by already existing buildings.

 

Again i good friend with "good" connections, arranged a meeting with the "right" people and even with offers to be "very greatfull" it just not possible and here is why

 

So one manages to pass all the new regulations, such as parking, green zone, 2 staircases, sprinkler system (keep in mind cost of adding all of this is staggering) now comes the next problem.

 

Was building built with all correct approvals? if it was, great, were submitted building plans for hotel? Lets be creative and imagine it was so and all is correct, now we have another problem which is distance from the road and distance from other buildings.

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32 minutes ago, Destiny1990 said:

Sorry but i’am going to call totally bull#hit on that..

u better stop ur lame fake stories!

By the way sport, that condo you got needs a hotel license same as the Hilton or a guesthouse if you rent short term. Has nothing to do with Airbnb or any other OTA you use. When you sign up to host you affirm the use as a rental is legal. It's NOT.

I didn't BS you, you got bullshitted when you bought that condo thinking you would clean house renting it out nightly. Might serve you well to do a little more due diligence if you have a next time. Good news is you can make the same paltry profit renting monthly as you do short term.

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8 minutes ago, JAZZDOG said:

By the way sport, that condo you got needs a hotel license same as the Hilton or a guesthouse if you rent short term. Has nothing to do with Airbnb or any other OTA you use. When you sign up to host you affirm the use as a rental is legal. It's NOT.

I didn't BS you, you got bullshitted when you bought that condo thinking you would clean house renting it out nightly. Might serve you well to do a little more due diligence if you have a next time. Good news is you can make the same paltry profit renting monthly as you do short term.

I am not doing any daily rentals in Thailand but its not a problem for me if others do that. I am pro Airbnb.

U said the foreigner in Hua Hin said he thought the thai hotel owners would be punished more severe then the farang hotel owners that sounds very very fishy to me to say the least..

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1 minute ago, Destiny1990 said:

I am not doing any daily rentals in Thailand but its not a problem for me if others do that. I am pro Airbnb.

U said the foreigner in Hua Hin said he thought the thai hotel owners would be punished more severe then the farang hotel owners that sounds very very fishy to me to say the least..

Need to work on your comprehension skills. I said nothing and know nothing about Hua Hin. I clearly was referring to the post above from the guy who got arrested in Pattaya which you failed to acknowledge after you cluelessly said I was full of shit.

Now go back, read the tread from the above forum before you call bs on a subject you're too mentally lazy to research. 

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2 hours ago, JAZZDOG said:

I clearly was referring to the post above from the guy who got arrested in Pattaya which you failed to acknowledge after you cluelessly said I was full of shit.

But its not verified information , only posted on this forum . I would like to see a news story about this. 

 

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8 hours ago, Bangna Betty said:

There are plenty of holiday serviced apartments around. Or get connecting rooms. 

You are correct, come to think of it, the place we stayed at for a week in Pattaya was a serviced apartment as we booked it through Bookings.com and not AirB&B

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7 hours ago, JAZZDOG said:

Need to work on your comprehension skills. I said nothing and know nothing about Hua Hin. I clearly was referring to the post above from the guy who got arrested in Pattaya which you failed to acknowledge after you cluelessly said I was full of shit.

Now go back, read the tread from the above forum before you call bs on a subject you're too mentally lazy to research. 

Ok the farang was arrested in pattaya not in Hua Hin my bad f but u said this: 

 

Actually he was arrested and went to court shackled to 7-8 other Thai hotel owners. He said he got off lighter than them. It's not what you think. 

 

That statement sir is just hilarious and then i don’t believe nothing about the fishy story..foreigners never get sentenced lighter then locals for a simular (crime) period!

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12 minutes ago, JAZZDOG said:

Anyone who truly believes Thai justice is bias against them to that extent should ask themselves why the hell they remain here. Go to the USA if your a white boy and you will be happy with the disproportionately number of blacks and latinos in jail.

Seems you are digging a hole now.

Some of is stay here because we like it and keep our heads down and do not act like idiots and have no problem obeying the rules and laws.

 

With this, your story does not sound like much fun hope everything eventually works out.

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