stefan2519 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 ➖Are you a cryptocurrency investor in Thailand? You may have heard that web wallets or desktop wallets connected to the Internet (“hot” wallets), aren’t the most secure, and you may not necessarily want to hold your assets on a paper wallet. Usually, the most optimal storage option for cryptocoins is a hardware wallet, and if you’re in Thailand, the place to buy this is definitely from siambc. ➖SIAMBC is Thailand’s premier hardware wallet reseller. They are a leader in importing Blockchain-related products and sell a variety of wallets such as the Ledger Nano S, Digital Bitbox, and the Trezor. Protect your assets by safely storing your sensitive crypto information on a physical device with a pin code that only you have access to - no need for 2FA security as there is no Internet login. Hardware wallets are the answer to how to protect your crypto assets from attacks such as viruses or malware - they are virtually hacker-proof. ➖Personally, I prefer the Ledger Nano S. From the SIAMBC website: “Ledger Nano S includes Bitcoin, Litecoin, Ethereum and Ethereum Classic companion apps, and other blockchain-based cryptocurrencies. You can send and receive payments, check your accounts and manage multiple addresses for each currency from the same device." Ledger Nano S is known for having some of the most responsive and helpful support staff. ➖SIAMBC also sells the KeepKey which is a USB device that stores and secures your Bitcoins. By using a special OLED display and confirmation button, each and every one of your Bitcoin transactions must be personally approved by you on the device, making it virtually impossible for hackers to access your funds. ➖Hardware wallets are one of the safest options for long term holding, and the device also makes it easy to send and receive coins. As always, you will be asked to backup your device information in case you lose it or you forget the pin. ➖SIAMBC uses Kerry Express for free shipping anywhere in Thailand in 1-3 business days. For any inquiry, you can freely contact them via email or phone number at the link here: SIAMBC HARDWARE WALLETS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghworker2010 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Only buy hardware wallets directly from the manufacturer Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefan2519 Posted May 31, 2018 Author Share Posted May 31, 2018 They are a certified retailer for all. Check their sites, or get charged the usual "whatever" customs wants to charge. Valid good advise here and info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angy Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 I have one Legder Nano S for sell at 3300 Baht, can also make installation if needed for 500 Baht, message me if interested Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefan2519 Posted June 4, 2018 Author Share Posted June 4, 2018 2 hours ago, angy said: I have one Legder Nano S for sell at 3300 Baht, can also make installation if needed for 500 Baht, message me if interested They are only ฿3,490.00 from a certified dealer factory sealed, and including Kerry insured signed for delivery from the link above. Good luck on your sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefan2519 Posted June 4, 2018 Author Share Posted June 4, 2018 Here's a great video on installation. Very easy to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angy Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 I try to sell here till june 20th, is not a problem, if I don't sale here I'll sell in Italy end of june to my friend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefan2519 Posted June 5, 2018 Author Share Posted June 5, 2018 20 hours ago, angy said: I try to sell here till june 20th, is not a problem, if I don't sale here I'll sell in Italy end of june to my friend They are the best IMO so it should sell no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghworker2010 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 On 6/4/2018 at 5:41 PM, angy said: I have one Legder Nano S for sell at 3300 Baht, can also make installation if needed for 500 Baht, message me if interested no one should buy from a private seller. Only but from the manufacturer..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefan2519 Posted June 7, 2018 Author Share Posted June 7, 2018 9 hours ago, ghworker2010 said: no one should buy from a private seller. Only but from the manufacturer..... True but to add the Ledger has software that will recognize if it has been tampered with. A full format will wipe any software from it and then you update the firmware. It's in the manual and on their site. Not arguing on the rights or wrongs just saying it is technically safe to buy a secondhand Ledger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phycokiller Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 12 hours ago, stefan2519 said: True but to add the Ledger has software that will recognize if it has been tampered with. A full format will wipe any software from it and then you update the firmware. It's in the manual and on their site. Not arguing on the rights or wrongs just saying it is technically safe to buy a secondhand Ledger. I agree, no point getting carried away, its not that scary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phycokiller Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 I mean if you cant figure out if a ledger has been tampered with or how to set up your own seed then you probably shouldnt be getting involved at this stage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinegarbase Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Absolutely not, I would never trust a reseller. You can buy all these online from the manufacturer website and have them shipped directly to you. Other than that companies for example for a coin like Cardano are offering offline printable paper wallets as these are becoming more common if you are worried about hacking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angy Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 22 hours ago, vinegarbase said: Absolutely not, I would never trust a reseller. You can buy all these online from the manufacturer website and have them shipped directly to you. Other than that companies for example for a coin like Cardano are offering offline printable paper wallets as these are becoming more common if you are worried about hacking. you're right, don't buy from a reseller because you don't know what is the Ledger. Use a paper that is more suitable for your knowledge of this matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefan2519 Posted June 14, 2018 Author Share Posted June 14, 2018 On 6/11/2018 at 11:54 AM, vinegarbase said: Absolutely not, I would never trust a reseller. You can buy all these online from the manufacturer website and have them shipped directly to you. Other than that companies for example for a coin like Cardano are offering offline printable paper wallets as these are becoming more common if you are worried about hacking. Please, refer to the official Ledger statement on this matter: second-hand-ledger-device As I mentioned before, as long as you are capable and KNOW what you are doing, buying a secondhand Ledger is not dangerous. Also, as mentioned before SiamBC is an official retailer for ledger, Trezor, and Keepkey. This will avoid you paying the extortionate import fees if your imported one was to be charged the 20-33% import duty. Have a great day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefan2519 Posted July 27, 2018 Author Share Posted July 27, 2018 This will be just a short write-up on the Leder Nano S that I bought from SIAMBC. I will add to this when I have more time. I’ve been using it for a while, and I wanted to write an unbiased review which will be easy to understand and follow up for people who are just getting into the crypto world. The Ledger is by far your safest option for storing crypto due to the support and currencies it supports. I purchased it from SIAMBC because they are the certified Ledger recommended retailer in Thailand. Their website was very easy to use and order and payment was swift. The Ledger was 24hr shipped via signed recorded delivery from Kerry Express, from order to delivery was less than 24hr even though I am 800 Km from their shop. The whole process from ordering and delivery was simple and without issue.Once I plugged in the device, it will randomly generate a private key for you. The private key is the master key to all of your coins and should be kept offline and securely. Nano S has a microchip which enables internal generation of the key and does not require internet access to create. The private key is your secret. It’s kept internally and never leaves the device. The Nano S allows you to pay and receive the payments by signing transactions privately and then spitting out the written confirmation without. If this is a bit hard to understand, here’s a simplified example. Your Nano S is your safe. Inside that safe, you have an important password (24-words key) which gives access to your bank accounts. It signs signing transactions inside based on your private key. When signed, it spits out the signed check. What is amazing about cryptocurrency, in general, is that that signature is only valid for that set of input, it’s unique for each transaction. Steps to follow once you get the Ledger Nano S -1. Reset the Ledger Nano S, and install the new Ledger Live app on computer and verify the Ledger 2. Generate set of words3. Note it down4. Send (a really) small amount of currency to the newly set device5. Reset ledger6. Use the set of words to restore7. Check the balance to ensure proper recovery This will then be safe to use and you should understand exactly how to use and reinstall the device if there is ever an issue. I will make more tips and updates to this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyJ Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Buying from other than the manufacturer directly is a very bad idea. Buying a used Ledger is a horrible idea. No one should ever do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefan2519 Posted August 25, 2018 Author Share Posted August 25, 2018 Please, refer to Ledger's official statement here: Statement Also, check official retailers within Thailand here: Retailers SIAMBC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyJ Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 19 hours ago, stefan2519 said: Please, refer to Ledger's official statement here: Statement Also, check official retailers within Thailand here: Retailers SIAMBC Posted in the reddit.com/r/Trezor forum about a year ago: Someone purchased from a Trezor 3rd party Amazon reseller. There was a problem with it during the warranty period. Trezor said it has to go to the reseller and the reseller will deal with Trezor for the repair/replace. The reseller didn't respond to the buyer and I believe he'd stopped advertising on Amazon. 3 months had passed with the buyer not getting it resolved. Perhaps Ledger would've handled it better. Pethaps not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyJ Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Also note that in the last year or 2 vulnerabilities have been found in both Trezor and Ledger. These were patched before any users were exploited. I Want to take a chance that there is another vulnerability discovered by a seller of a used Ledger or by a 3rd party seller of new Ledgers, in order to save a small amount of money by not buying new direct from manufacturer? Risk to Reward says "No" imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefan2519 Posted August 27, 2018 Author Share Posted August 27, 2018 2 hours ago, JimmyJ said: Also note that in the last year or 2 vulnerabilities have been found in both Trezor and Ledger. These were patched before any users were exploited. I Want to take a chance that there is another vulnerability discovered by a seller of a used Ledger or by a 3rd party seller of new Ledgers, in order to save a small amount of money by not buying new direct from manufacturer? Risk to Reward says "No" imo. You mentioned Ledger so I replied to that topic. As I mentioned before SIAMBC is a recommended retailer for Ledger and a number of others (main dealer), not a third party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorchester Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 i bought my wallet from amazon using crypto to purchase a gift card,then using the gift card to redeem the wallet that was shipped to a friends house.It's not perfect but the trail is kinda foggy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefan2519 Posted September 5, 2018 Author Share Posted September 5, 2018 On 9/2/2018 at 5:47 PM, dorchester said: i bought my wallet from amazon using crypto to purchase a gift card,then using the gift card to redeem the wallet that was shipped to a friends house.It's not perfect but the trail is kinda foggy The Ledger is by far the best at this current point, more support and features. You won't be disappointed with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaos Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 There is pc tool to check is legit or not now. Buying from other than the manufacturer directly is a very bad idea. Buying a used Ledger is a horrible idea. No one should ever do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefan2519 Posted September 11, 2018 Author Share Posted September 11, 2018 Ten Commandments of Crypto Security https://medium.com/@AndrePreoteasa/ten-commandments-of-crypto-security-updated-1cfd754fbf45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvestMarco Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 I also think that how to trust only one proven place and not in Thailand;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ks45672 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Anyone with significant funds in bitcoin or others should learn how to generate your own private keys offline securely (Google cold storage) , preferably on an airgap computer and even better with a privacy o/s like tails but any old Windows laptop will work as long as you maintain the airgap It's not that difficult and there are plenty of YouTube instructional videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theguyfromanotherforum Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 You bought a secure hardware wallet for 3500 baht in May. Meanwhile you lost 60,000 baht on bitcoin. It's very useful to purchase a secure hardware wallet to hold failing crypto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ks45672 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 39 minutes ago, theguyfromanotherforum said: You bought a secure hardware wallet for 3500 baht in May. Meanwhile you lost 60,000 baht on bitcoin. It's very useful to purchase a secure hardware wallet to hold failing crypto. It's still a logical step to protect his investment until the next bullrun People who bought gold for $1900 in 2011 are still paying to keep it secure even though it is only worth $1190 in todays weaker dollars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theguyfromanotherforum Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Ks45672 said: It's still a logical step to protect his investment until the next bullrun People who bought gold for $1900 in 2011 are still paying to keep it secure even though it is only worth $1190 in todays weaker dollars Bitcoin and some other crypto could have had a chance if the incredible amount of crap coins didn't hit the unregulated open scummy market. Now, it's giong to zero. No bull run. It's a falling knife. In the downward spiral. Turn off the lights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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