snoop1130 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 RTP: Start fining drunk drivers up to 200,000 baht! An advisory committee of the Royal Thai Police said they will recommend that fines for drink driving be dramatically increased. Pol Maj Gen Ekkarak Limsangkat said that the present rate of 10,000 baht and/or a year in jail is not enough of a deterrent. He wants to see this increased to at least 100,000 baht and possibly even 200,000 baht in serious cases. Increase in jail time is not on the table. Courts can raise the fines in the case of repeat offences but the police want the power to issue far greater penalties to those who flout the law, even the first time. And Ekkarak also said that his committee would like to see fines that are commensurate with the level of alcohol in the blood punishing the most serious offenders the most. The committee that has members from the top echelons of the national police are going to make recommendations on a list of new measures designed to help improve the situation on the roads in the kingdom. Thailand's road death statistics suggest it is the most dangerous place in the world to drive and many accidents are caused by drunk drivers. Source: https://www.dailynews.co.th/bangkok/645309 -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2018-5-24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiwrath Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 5 minutes ago, snoop1130 said: Increase in jail time is not on the table. Why not ? Surely that would be a far better deterrent, especially for the more affluent offenders, some of whom think they are above the law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanleycoin Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 That will be the Falang price. What will Somchai pay, 500 baht and a quick Wai maybe an increase, to a double Wai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tracker1 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Good if it eventuates ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanleycoin Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 7 minutes ago, Thaiwrath said: Why not ? Surely that would be a far better deterrent, especially for the more affluent offenders, some of whom think they are above the law. But they all run away, or try and pay money under the table to get off lightly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaltsc Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 "He wants to see this increased to at least 100,000 baht and possibly even 200,000 baht in serious cases." Sounds like an easy way for police to increase their bribes to 50,000 baht. That is, if it were a corrupt country, and not an honorable and honest nation like Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEVUP Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 5 minutes ago, stanleycoin said: That will be the Falang price. What will Somchai pay, 500 baht and a quick Wai maybe a an increase, to a double Wai. Agree What happens when they just turn around & say have no money (like they do when in an accident ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanleycoin Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, BEVUP said: Agree What happens when they just turn around & say have no money (like they do when in an accident ) Maybe a treble Wai, plus a silly grin. They just run away and pretend it never happened. It's all Bs anyway, they need to have an attitude adjustment to driving and riding on the roads here, and stop hiding behind the drunk driving Flag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sn1per Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 What is the legal limit ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coulson Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 44 minutes ago, snoop1130 said: Increase in jail time is not on the table Should be the only thing on the table, 90% of those pulled in can't afford the current fine, let alone an increase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsaanFam Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Now the going rate is 10,000 - 20,000 THB over the counter without any receipt for white foreigners. So this is just to increase to 30,000 - 50,000 THB. The reality: This makes a lot of sense, because cmon, face it, the pain for such a thing has a higher price tag than 10k. And to the big mouths saying Thais pay a lot less: A lot of Thais going to a holding cell for some days to face the court and in the western societies these holding cells are a violation of human rights. So, if you are keen, just drink and drive, don't pay the otc rate and they will surely take you to one of these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsaanFam Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 45 minutes ago, BEVUP said: Agree What happens when they just turn around & say have no money (like they do when in an accident ) They get locked up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsaanFam Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 46 minutes ago, jaltsc said: "He wants to see this increased to at least 100,000 baht and possibly even 200,000 baht in serious cases." Sounds like an easy way for police to increase their bribes to 50,000 baht. That is, if it were a corrupt country, and not an honorable and honest nation like Thailand. You are absolutely correct. From first hand experience, the current going rate is about 15k. If this talk reaches the finest of the bunch in Pattaya, BKK and Phuket, there will be surely a lot more topics like "got busted for drunk driving and could not pay 50k and now being hold in a cell (but they did not take my mobile phone)" at TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surangw Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 confiscate and crush their vehicles while they watch, and hope they still have to keep making payments on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damrongsak Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 1 hour ago, stanleycoin said: That will be the Falang price. What will Somchai pay, 500 baht and a quick Wai maybe an increase, to a double Wai. 1,000 Baht and a double Wai on the wocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lungstib Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 The truth about this, as we all know, is that certain people will never be asked to blow into that little machine. Only some will be caught and fined, the off-duty uniforms, the sons of wealthy parents and those parents themselves will just be waved on. These things die hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy cow cm Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 The big wigs don’t drive themselves. Increasing fines is not the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 34 minutes ago, sn1per said: What is the legal limit ? upto and including just prior to passing out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lespaulTV Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 I suspect Thai jail are quite full and they don't want to feed these people. so its a standard 500baht for easy calculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, Lungstib said: The truth about this, as we all know, is that certain people will never be asked to blow into that little machine. Only some will be caught and fined, the off-duty uniforms, the sons of wealthy parents and those parents themselves will just be waved on. These things die hard. yes unfortunately, the one who will be in the position of having to pay will be the ones least able to afford pay - while the others will just continue on merrily as if nothing has change (hasn't for them) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 13 minutes ago, surangw said: confiscate and crush their vehicles while they watch, and hope they still have to keep making payments on them. If they claim they cant afford the fine then that is the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
300sd Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 1 hour ago, snoop1130 said: Courts can raise the fines in the case of repeat offences but the police want the power to issue far greater penalties to those who flout the law, even the first time. There is something rotten here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SABloke Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Make it a gazillion dollars - who gives a shit. It won't be enforced. Remember the police captain a few years back who got asked to do a breathalyser test: he refused... the cop requesting the test was reprimanded, and the head of the police sent a memo that all cops memorise the number plates of senior officers so as not to pull them over. Nobody gave a shit that the "law" was refusing a breathalyser test is an admission of guilt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 We had a great team on paper but unfortunately the other side turned up is the right metaphor here I suspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
namatjira Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Please help me, I have been caught drunk driving while on holiday in Thailand...can someone please set up a ‘ go fund me ‘ page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsaanFam Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 5 hours ago, SABloke said: Make it a gazillion dollars - who gives a shit. It won't be enforced. Remember the police captain a few years back who got asked to do a breathalyser test: he refused... the cop requesting the test was reprimanded, and the head of the police sent a memo that all cops memorise the number plates of senior officers so as not to pull them over. Nobody gave a shit that the "law" was refusing a breathalyser test is an admission of guilt. You do not understand how law is applied there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poanoi Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 1 year is already enough, more important is to deal with red light offenders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 A good Thai salary is 200k in a whole year so how he thinks they can fine the locals this much is a mystery. Of course it will never happen , just another brainless idea. Prison is a good idea, but there's not enough room inside for 10 million drunk idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisY1 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Another method of raising black money for the RTP..... Most average Thais simply cannot afford such high fines, no matter the reason for such fines. But an under the table payment, less than the high fine cost, for forgetting an offence, would appeal to many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catman20 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 11 hours ago, Thaiwrath said: Why not ? Surely that would be a far better deterrent, especially for the more affluent offenders, some of whom think they are above the law. just another cash cow, i like to see the local Thai man get nicked 1 or 200,000 for DD take him the rest of his life to pay that sort of fine. this is surely directed at farangs only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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