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BANGKOK 23 March 2019 23:19
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1 minute ago, NetJunkie said:

 

Close, I got a 2k fine for dropping a cigarette butt on Sukhumvit, have never done it since - so that fine worked.

 

Drinking is legal, so not sure why you mentioned it, and as for drugs, only an absolute moron would do drugs in a country with such draconian laws as Thailand.

the reason i mention drinking is because it impairs one's judgement, leads to possibly dangerous situations, especially while driving, etc.  I was trying to make a simple point:  although i am always sober and on my toes, it is quite possible to be victimized by crooked cops.  i have actually had it happen, although in a very minor way, much less than what happened to the  OP. 

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10 hours ago, pr0fik said:

Thanks, been thinking about it also. Dont get me wrong , 40k was painful. But lawyer for not much fees could be great .

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OP -  richard_smith237 provides some good info (as you noted already).  thanks to richard for that.

 

the road, i'll all it asoke (but i think it can also be ratchadapisek, sukhumvit soi 21, etc...) btwn rama IV and sukhumvit is well known for checkpoints.  these are not 'regular' checkpoints as they only stop non-thais in taxis (thais can be seen exiting the taxis but they are with non-thais).  they set the check point at rama IV as you turn left onto asoke, or on asoke as you turn left to sukhumvit.  i've lived walking distance from asoke/sukhumvit for 10 yrs.  it has been going on a long time.  the only real course of action you have is to pay the money as soon as possible, unless you want to spend some time behind bars.  there are reports of people refusing and at the end of the process they end up paying a fine much lower than 40,000thb.  but they had to spend a few days (or longer) behind bars, possibly pay an attorney, see a judge, etc...  that is not a process i want to go through and would pay 40,000thb to avoid.

 

i always use the overhead walkways at the asoke/sukhumvit intersection.  that avoids being 'selected' as a pedestrian.  i also never let a taxi take me home using that stretch of road. 

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23 minutes ago, buick said:

the police running the checkpoints at asoke/sukhumvit and rama IV/asoke do not care about this.  they will take you to jail.  you may end up paying a 2,000thb fine but you'll lose a week of your life.

 

if you are not thai, you will be stopped.  i've watched the checkpoints from the overhead walkways dozens of times.  they only stop taxis with non thais.  if a non thai happens to stroll by the checkpoint, they might get checked.  it has nothing to do with looking suspicious.  you are a foreigner and assumed to have money ready to pay.

 

the police running these checkpoints don't follow the law so advice on what is legal won't help in this situation.  if you start to argue with the police at these two checkpoints, you are likely to end up in jail.

 

 

as i recall the police harassment/shakedowns escalated after the military took control and police lost many of their money making venues

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Steer clear of any confrontation with the authorities here if you can ....................... you are on a loser from the word "go'. Even if you are, in your opinion, in the right & feel you have done nothing wrong to argue is not going to improve your situation at all. State your case & stick to it. Definitely pay no money on the street if they ask too much ... a couple of hundred baht to avoid the nausea of wrangling's with locals officials elsewhere is well worth it ........ if they insist on heavy fines then opt to go to the police station. Make a full report of the incident & ask for a lawyer. Which ever way you look at it it's going to cost you money, but in cases where your misdemeanor is minor it will be cleared up quite quickly & you'll be released. You don't have many rights here I'm afraid & if you have no one who is going to tell you what they are without a "fee", hence you have the "shitty end of the stick" ........... it's a case of "dog eat dog" in most situations with authorities here! Lawyers will "skin you alive", so be careful who you use for your defense ...... everyone loves to eat, especially Thai's right? .... 555. Trust no-one .......... just try to stay out of trouble. Good luck.

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14 hours ago, vogie said:

Maybe if you stop taking the pee, they will.

thats such a helpful comment.. not so funny when it happens to you...

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This sounds like the same whining I heard in Canada when the police set up ride checkpoints and started taking away keys and charging people.  I was clean I had not been drinking the police had a bad tester.  I was framed.

 

I also heard the old they are just trying to make their quota and pulling and charging anyone they want.

 

The bottom line is that the use of a narcotic or drug not medically provided is illegal.  Much like the ride checkpoints the cops are aware of areas that have higher than average drug use.  Therefore if one is smart you either do not do drugs at all or you stay away from the NANA area.

 

Sorry but as you admitted you did the crime.

 

Your last attempt was not "3 years ago" it was minutes ago.

 

How do you act around 10 policemen the same way you should act around 1 cop.  Yes, officer, no officer thank you, officer.

 

For a person that feels threatened or such, you can simply ask to be taken to jail.  

 

You did not have to pay the fine at all that was your choice.

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some comments related to the 'flyer' posted in post #25,

 

Section 1.2 - sufficient lighting and not be desolate.  i was stopped at asoke/rama IV at 1:30am, the only lighting was the flashlight looking through my backpack.  i would suggest that area is the most desolate of areas controlled by the thonglor station, partly because of the time (late at night).  asoke/sukhumvit is well lighted at that time of night and not desolate.

 

Section 1.3 - under the search heading, 'do not pay any amount of money to police, if asked to or not'.  with this one i crack a wry smile.  what about AFTER the search, assuming they've found something ?  as it reads in the flyer posted in post #25 it is a bit ambiguous.  i think most long term residents in thailand know it is best to offer money to the police in order to avoid any issues.  they won't ask for money, you need to offer it.  if you end up at the station and a report goes into their computer, it is too late to pay.  you will then enjoy some time in the cell at the station (hoping you have friends on the outside to bring food so you can eat).

 

 

 

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