AJBangkok Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 I have been a very satisfied user of Flawless IPTV for some time. My annual subscription has rolled around and Flawless no longer accept payment by credit card. They only accept crypto currency and I have no inclination to go out and start setting up crypto wallets and accounts at exchanges etc. So I am looking for an alternative to flawless. I mainly use it for F1 and F1 catch up. That’s all. Has anyone had any recent experience with any of the providers below or know of another provider for F1. Mobara, Fabiptv, OTT tv or Boss TV ( epic IPTV) thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skippy121 Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 if you want to remain with flawless and pay with paypal or credit card, just message him and he will get you setup, he tells me that he is allowed to do this as flawless want to push the paypal/card users towards resellers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altcar bob Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 Use myp2p its free just wait a min or two for ads to vanish all there in hd too fi soccer anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer90210 Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 Are the channel offers with a Satelite dish no good or to much a hassle to setup ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skippy121 Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 59 minutes ago, observer90210 said: Are the channel offers with a Satelite dish no good or to much a hassle to setup ? They are good but not the same as UKTV backhome, you can watch epl on true bein with a sat dish or you can watch uk sky and BT sports and NBC extra with a iptv service. some people live the offering from True and CTH before , just depends on what you want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUS Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Flawless will be able to offer payment through PayPal again in a few days. No need to change the provider if you’re happy with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJBangkok Posted June 5, 2018 Author Share Posted June 5, 2018 On 6/3/2018 at 4:53 PM, skippy121 said: if you want to remain with flawless and pay with paypal or credit card, just message him and he will get you setup, he tells me that he is allowed to do this as flawless want to push the paypal/card users towards resellers Thanks to Skippy 121. Messaged the guy and he had me set up with a new account within 10 minutes. Great service Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorriedNoodle Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 On 6/4/2018 at 5:39 PM, DUS said: Flawless will be able to offer payment through PayPal again in a few days. No need to change the provider if you’re happy with them. Until now this doesn't seem to be the case? I need to renew in a couple of weeks, will I be able to pay with my BitCoin Thailand bx.th wallet? I have never bought anything with Bitcoin before, does it work with Flawless OK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vogie Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 On 6/4/2018 at 5:39 PM, DUS said: Flawless will be able to offer payment through PayPal again in a few days. No need to change the provider if you’re happy with them. Do Flawless accept credit card or bank transfer, it seems a very complicated way to get started. I haven't got paypal or bitcoin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJBangkok Posted June 11, 2018 Author Share Posted June 11, 2018 On my invoice Flawless were using a payment system called coingate. When you log on coingate give you an option to start and account and buy BTC with a CC at a hugely inflated net price but Thailand is not on the list of approved countries. It all seemed far too messy for me. I used The reseller suggested by Skippy121by emailing him off his website and he had me sorted with a new Flawless subscription paid by credit card in a matter of minutes. It was very painless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vogie Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, AJBangkok said: On my invoice Flawless were using a payment system called coingate. When you log on coingate give you an option to start and account and buy BTC with a CC at a hugely inflated net price but Thailand is not on the list of approved countries. It all seemed far too messy for me. I used The reseller suggested by Skippy121by emailing him off his website and he had me sorted with a new Flawless subscription paid by credit card in a matter of minutes. It was very painless. How much are Flawless subscriptions, thanks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJBangkok Posted June 11, 2018 Author Share Posted June 11, 2018 i ended up buying a full package ( not just sports ) for 6 months from the reseller for 2900 baht. I think it’s maybe a few hundred baht more than be full package price for 6 months sold through Flawless but I can’t confirm the exact price as now if you buy from Flawless there is major hassles buying bitcoin and the conversion rate seemed high plus their is a commission that you have to pay from converting the currency to BTC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorriedNoodle Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 5 hours ago, AJBangkok said: 6 months from the reseller for 2900 baht It's only 75UKP (about 3200THB) for a year on Flawless. Cannot we pay with bitcoin we might already have, why do we have to buy more bitcoin at a bad exchange rate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skippy121 Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 16 hours ago, WorriedNoodle said: It's only 75UKP (about 3200THB) for a year on Flawless. Cannot we pay with bitcoin we might already have, why do we have to buy more bitcoin at a bad exchange rate? I would not buy a years sub for anything at the moment, lots of issues with big providers getting hit or having payment issues. Resellers are safer to buy from as if the provider ( flawless disappears) the reseller will move you to their backup provider rather than lose a customer. Dont be too concerned about the price you pay, I would rather pay 2900 baht and be up and working in 2 minutes than pay 2000 baht and be messing around for 1 hour plus, all depends on what your time is worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorriedNoodle Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 27 minutes ago, skippy121 said: I would rather pay 2900 baht and be up and working in 2 minutes than pay 2000 baht and be messing around for 1 hour plus, all depends on what your time is worth. Good points. Just to be clear, the link you posted is a direct copy of Flawless or some mixture of it with other streams? The web site doesn't look anything like Flawless or list the same channels? Also a reseller does that mean we can expect more buffering - I don't know how these resellers work? I am really happy with the Channel line up on Flawless especially the catchup. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skippy121 Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 17 minutes ago, WorriedNoodle said: Good points. Just to be clear, the link you posted is a direct copy of Flawless or some mixture of it with other streams? The web site doesn't look anything like Flawless or list the same channels? Also a reseller does that mean we can expect more buffering - I don't know how these resellers work? I am really happy with the Channel line up on Flawless especially the catchup. Cheers. Websites tend not to get updated with every channel change , the best way with any provider is to ask for a trial, most are happy to provide but without sport as it attracts teflers and migrants. reseller normally means they are selling someone elses service and rebranded it , 99% of vpn providers are doing just that even the big ones. TV services are slightly different, resellers tend to buy channels from providers such as flawless and then provide a those channels and others from elsewhere to create a different product aimed at niche markets. Buffering will depend on many factors , internet speed , how many servers , quality of box etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJBangkok Posted June 12, 2018 Author Share Posted June 12, 2018 18 hours ago, WorriedNoodle said: It's only 75UKP (about 3200THB) for a year on Flawless. Cannot we pay with bitcoin we might already have, why do we have to buy more bitcoin at a bad exchange rate? I’m sure you can pay with your own bitcoin. What I received from the reseller was a new flawless login and password. It’s exactly the same flawless system that I was using before and the username and password comes directly from Flawless. You do not notice any difference. As far as the price goes yeah I know it’s more expensive but i’m not going to deny myself watching TV in the way I like/want/am used to because of a thousand baht or what ever it would be over a 1 year subscription. I know i’d miss my TV more than I’d miss 1000 baht and if flawless starts accepting CC’s again i’ll Just re up with them directly. In the long run none of these IPTV services is perfect, they all go down from time to time but for me Flawless is one of the best so i’m Ok paying a premium to get what I want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digitalbanana Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 On 6/3/2018 at 4:53 PM, skippy121 said: if you want to remain with flawless and pay with paypal or credit card, Just curious, how is this remaining with Flawless? Isn't it a completely new subscription called UK TV Thailand? That's what it says in the link you give or am I mistaken please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skippy121 Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 2 hours ago, Digitalbanana said: Just curious, how is this remaining with Flawless? Isn't it a completely new subscription called UK TV Thailand? That's what it says in the link you give or am I mistaken please? same thing different branding, different seller. you can tell straight away it is the same , or you could just buy some bitcoin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digitalbanana Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 3 hours ago, skippy121 said: or you could just buy some bitcoin I have bitcoin but got booted off Flawless a couple weeks ago when sub expired. No notice given. Admins would not answer me. No option to buy new or extend existing sub with bitcoin on the client page. I went elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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