Hotel Raids continue in South Pattaya

[JAZZDOG 1,041]

14 minutes ago, cmsally said:

if you check in the Chiang Mai forum you will see more on this, Chiang Mai has been affected on a huge scale. many protests and meetings organized. 

Pure Insanity. Many 3rd world governments create these catch-22 regulations so they can get greased under the table. I just don't see the logic behind it but then again this is Thailand where they are talking about closing down Phuket island. If the government actually follows through with this on a larger scale it will be time to get out of dodge. This will be interesting.

 

http://www.chiangmaicitylife.com/news/hundreds-small-medium-hotels-closed-police-chiang-mai-crackdown/

[sam neuts 92]

23 minutes ago, cmsally said:

if you check in the Chiang Mai forum you will see more on this, Chiang Mai has been affected on a huge scale. many protests and meetings organized. 

I have been trying to get people to search forums and the internet because I am not sure which links I am allowed to post, which ones I am not and in the meantime my notification box has been like getting hit with 100 questions at once.

 

Yes, i know a lot of different places are having trouble and a lot is because the law is difficult to understand, and information is sparse.

 

The 2016 amendment is the thing that seems to have brought the problem up and it is being enforced.

[sam neuts 92]

2 minutes ago, JAZZDOG said:

Pure Insanity. Many 3rd world governments create these catch-22 regulations so they can get greased under the table. I just don't see the logic behind it but then again this is Thailand where they are talking about closing down Phuket island. If the government actually follows through with this on a larger scale it will be time to get out of dodge. This will be interesting.

 

http://www.chiangmaicitylife.com/news/hundreds-small-medium-hotels-closed-police-chiang-mai-crackdown/

That is why I started the discussion.

 

Apologies that there was already a discussion about it and I started another one. Can they be joined together?

 

Everyone thinks that I am trying to GET something but I am just trying to raise awareness and offer any FREE information I can.

 

I do know some about the subject because I know people that are personally affected, and have had a number of problems. I just don't want to give the names of them, or their businesses. 

[JAZZDOG 1,041]

5 minutes ago, sam neuts said:

That is why I started the discussion.

 

Apologies that there was already a discussion about it and I started another one. Can they be joined together?

 

Everyone thinks that I am trying to GET something but I am just trying to raise awareness and offer any FREE information I can.

 

I do know some about the subject because I know people that are personally affected, and have had a number of problems. I just don't want to give the names of them, or their businesses. 

Yes, this is a rather large can of worms they have opened. The real problem is lack of enforcement for decades gave these businesses legitimacy if not legality. Legitimacy in Thailand seems to prevail in most all sectors of this society as legality and rule of law is pretty much optional as are the penalties in many cases. Sure doesn't bode well for foreign investment. The hotel lobby here must be packing some serious sway.

[theguyfromanotherforum 6,784]

Uh oh.....I expect a firesale at the Base soon. Maybe 1.2mil for high floor ocean view.....

[sam neuts 92]

2 minutes ago, JAZZDOG said:

Yes, this is a rather large can of worms they have opened. The real problem is lack of enforcement for decades gave these businesses legitimacy if not legality. Legitimacy in Thailand seems to prevail in most all sectors of this society as legality and rule of law is pretty much optional as are the penalties in many cases. Sure doesn't bode well for foreign investment. The hotel lobby here must be packing some serious sway.

Yeah and although lots of places are affected, not many seem to think it is worth discussing.

[cmsally 6,025]

2 minutes ago, sam neuts said:

Yeah and although lots of places are affected, not many seem to think it is worth discussing.

 

[sam neuts 92]

1 minute ago, theguyfromanotherforum said:

Uh oh.....I expect a firesale at the Base soon. Maybe 1.2mil for high floor ocean view.....

This will be one of the effects.

 

Condominium investment for short term rental is no longer feasible.

 

I am sure there are lots of investors who are already in it.

 

What happens to the construction companies, staff, builders merchants? The list is endless.

[digbeth 876]

The raids seem to be focused on hotels for now, it's low hanging fruits, there's always managers to arrest, hotels to close down. Raiding AirBnB condos will be difficult, actual co-owners not present, they're not gonna kick out the hapless tourist caught up in this.

[sam neuts 92]

1 minute ago, digbeth said:

The raids seem to be focused on hotels for now, it's low hanging fruits, there's always managers to arrest, hotels to close down. Raiding AirBnB condos will be difficult, actual co-owners not present, they're not gonna kick out the hapless tourist caught up in this.

Yeah. For now.

 

That is my point.

 

It was bars and rooms with signs out for daily rent last week in Soi 17 South Pattaya, and a few small guesthouse/hotel type buildings.

 

 

[DrTuner 24,557]

11 minutes ago, theguyfromanotherforum said:

Uh oh.....I expect a firesale at the Base soon. Maybe 1.2mil for high floor ocean view.....

I'm not sure you'd want one even at those prices after the Chinese have had their way with the unit.

[JAZZDOG 1,041]

17 minutes ago, theguyfromanotherforum said:

Uh oh.....I expect a firesale at the Base soon. Maybe 1.2mil for high floor ocean view.....

At 1.2M no need to rent by the month>>great ROI

[TunnelRat69 2,016]

On 6/5/2018 at 1:25 PM, dabhand said:

So, those providing hourly room rentals are not included in this crackdown.

 

Well, that's a relief.

Are there any 10-15 minute versions??

[swissie 4,881]

I must have missed that one. What was/is the reason for this "registration frenzie"?

- To make tax-collection easier?
- To establish a minimum "building-safety code"?
- Do the international hotel-chains want the small competition out of the way? (Enabeling them to increase room rates massively).

Can somebody fill me in? Unless somebody can furnish a viable explanation that this would be of benefit to the Thai Economy and in particular the small Thai business owner, I remain firm with my theory that I have outlined in my post # 14.
Cheers.

 

[JAZZDOG 1,041]

3 hours ago, swissie said:

I must have missed that one. What was/is the reason for this "registration frenzie"?

- To make tax-collection easier?
- To establish a minimum "building-safety code"?
- Do the international hotel-chains want the small competition out of the way? (Enabeling them to increase room rates massively).

Can somebody fill me in? Unless somebody can furnish a viable explanation that this would be of benefit to the Thai Economy and in particular the small Thai business owner, I remain firm with my theory that I have outlined in my post # 14.
Cheers.

 

A & C.  Would be time better spent on highway safety. This deal is a no-win.