Zack61 Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 12 hours ago, ukrules said: Corruption, isn't that illegal these days ? No. It’s a way of life. It’s an acceptable income stream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peperobi Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 Is it not corruption, just a different to legalize your business!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camilo Diaz Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 Which in Thailand means they are Legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesimps Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 But but...our beloved junta has stamped out corruption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesimps Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 42 minutes ago, ebean001 said: Stop being negative. There were 'probably' many questionable actions in the past. USA can sure attest to that. The very, very , very positive is the surfacing of these questionable actions. I hope this is being done to root out unacceptable behavior. If so, then give people credit for taking action against what is best for the people Mate of Suradit are you? Use the same optician selling the red lenses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Deerhunter Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 57 minutes ago, ebean001 said: Stop being negative. There were 'probably' many questionable actions in the past. USA can sure attest to that. The very, very , very positive is the surfacing of these questionable actions. I hope this is being done to root out unacceptable behavior. If so, then give people credit for taking action against what is best for the people All depends on how thick their skins are but without social media a lot of this would never come out. Putting something up on a blog or a twitter or facebook account can get the attention of a lazy (or hopefully non-lazy) journo much easier that ringing a news paper or a TV station and trying to interest them in a story. Let's hope for the best but hopefully there will be a critical mass in here somewhere beyond a certain point it cannot be stopped, like a nuclear reaction. But I think Thailand is a bit away from that stage just yet. But it is a start and people who want to be in government had better start saying what they will do about these things and not wriggle out later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 13 hours ago, ukrules said: Corruption, isn't that illegal these days ? Not in Thailand if you're high enough up the ladder!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawadee1947 Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 4 hours ago, YetAnother said: imagine trying to clean up the mess that is today's thailand That would be Thailand without army, police, politicians are tycoons, aso..... Who is left then here....? Only "farangs"......5555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 3 hours ago, Juan B Tong said: 'License? 'You are going to try to shut my hotel down because I don't have a license? Do you know how long I had to save my cut of the government money for the poor old people and my share of the school lunch money just to build that hotel? I even had to get money from my brother the monk! Now I have to get a license?' Perhaps you'll need to go back to your brother the monk for funds to tear it down. But your own fault you should have done it all correctly in the first place, there are rules and regulations about these things for good reasons. But so many Thais will skirt around the obvious often easy way and do it the most difficult way also meaning eventually the whole idea will choke them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam neuts Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 It isn't only about illegal licences and corrupt officials, copied licences and fake hotels. But, good to see some interest being shown in a topic that is already affecting many businesses in Thailand under the 2016 amendment to the Hotel Act (2004). This is also about thousands of legitimate honest, and hard working businesses all over Thailand that have been affected, raided, closed and now face charges in courts, fines imposed and possible imprisonment for something that to many was totally legal until August 19th 2016. I have posted a couple of topics in Thai Visa that are now becoming related and even though I do not always provide the requested sources or proof concerning my comments. Things ARE happening that affect both Travellers to Thailand and Thousands of small businesses offering short term daily rentals. Remember Pattaya boasts of Tourist levels near 7 million each year, and with hotels that currently hold a licence standing at less than 300 (reported by the District Chief of Banglamung) makes me wonder where all the tourists are staying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger70 Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 Imagine that if one could stop All the corruption and government people involved in One Day,,, This Country would come to a Stand still,,,, There's So much corruption going on that 80 % off all the people would be in Jail. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 5 hours ago, YetAnother said: imagine trying to clean up the mess that is today's thailand It would take more than Eliot Ness and his untouchables! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack P Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 So an example where law abiding players are hindered by regulation while the bent officials hotels avoid regulation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadbury Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 5 hours ago, YetAnother said: imagine trying to clean up the mess that is today's thailand Troubleshooter PM Prayut will be right on to it and have it sorted in the blink of a blind eye........or 20 years, whichever comes sooner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAZZDOG Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 28 minutes ago, sam neuts said: It isn't only about illegal licences and corrupt officials, copied licences and fake hotels. But, good to see some interest being shown in a topic that is already affecting many businesses in Thailand under the 2016 amendment to the Hotel Act (2004). This is also about thousands of legitimate honest, and hard working businesses all over Thailand that have been affected, raided, closed and now face charges in courts, fines imposed and possible imprisonment for something that to many was totally legal until August 19th 2016. I have posted a couple of topics in Thai Visa that are now becoming related and even though I do not always provide the requested sources or proof concerning my comments. Things ARE happening that affect both Travellers to Thailand and Thousands of small businesses offering short term daily rentals. Remember Pattaya boasts of Tourist levels near 7 million each year, and with hotels that currently hold a licence standing at less than 300 (reported by the District Chief of Banglamung) makes me wonder where all the tourists are staying. I can imagine the number of businesses could top ten times that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stud858 Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 What we need is a Robin Hood type figure in Thailand. An action man. Like Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toofarnorth Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 5 hours ago, Destiny1990 said: He still busy with these Africans. Ah , but if he went to H/H he could find some dark skinned Africans , stay in a hotel ( a legit one ) catch up with a few scammers and have a bit of a break , after which , boat over to Patts. and start again , same same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Teacher Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 15 hours ago, ukrules said: Corruption, isn't that illegal these days ? It appears different rules for state employee's who have laundered money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duanebigsby Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 3 hours ago, TKDfella said: I read yesterday & this morning about children's school meal money going in the pockets of school officials. I know this has nothing to do with hotels but my point is; If they steal from what is meant for Thai children, they'll do anything, anywhere (in Thailand) to boost their own bank accounts. They lack any sense of humanity and are shameless. It's sickening. Not to mention the 120 baht shirts being mandatory for teachers to buy at 420 baht, school officials pocketing the difference. Corruption is never ending and has its grip on absolutely everything here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvr181 Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 15 hours ago, ukrules said: Corruption, isn't that illegal these days ? Only for those ranked the lowest in Thai society! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvr181 Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 3 hours ago, TKDfella said: I read yesterday & this morning about children's school meal money going in the pockets of school officials. I know this has nothing to do with hotels but my point is; If they steal from what is meant for Thai children, they'll do anything, anywhere (in Thailand) to boost their own bank accounts. They lack any sense of humanity and are shameless. It's sickening. Agreed. There is no shame among Thai thieves (or anywhere - but this is about Thailand)!! A sick culture that allows some to think that they can steal from the "mouths" of children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny1990 Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 1 hour ago, toofarnorth said: Ah , but if he went to H/H he could find some dark skinned Africans , stay in a hotel ( a legit one ) catch up with a few scammers and have a bit of a break , after which , boat over to Patts. and start again , same same. I never seen an African in HH..Probably because HH doesn’t have a prostitution or dope scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wpcoe Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 6 hours ago, Borzandy said: How can someone with mo connection could build hotel on public area. The one hotel that I recognized has changed ownership and name at least once. Is it possible that the original party who owned/ran the hotel when it was first built actually had all the proper licenses and permits but that the subsequent owners failed to obtain and/or retain them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamalaRider Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 17 hours ago, ukrules said: Corruption, isn't that illegal these days ? Nop, that's just someone spreading false rumours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamalaRider Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 4 hours ago, jesimps said: But but...our beloved junta has stamped out corruption. Only the word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambum Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 "adversely affecting tourism at the resort and also to the fact that many of the hotels had connections with corrupt local officials." Can't have any of that happening now, can we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cake Monster Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 10 hours ago, YetAnother said: imagine trying to clean up the mess that is today's thailand Just imagine what a stinking, filthy corrupt land this will be in 10 or 15 years from now. No chance of cleaning out the corruption now, So absolutely no chance in the future. Did I say future ? Sorry there is no future for Thailand, just same old , same old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tchooptip Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 Most Westerners are stubbornPffffff they do not want to understand that corruption is legal in Thailand, OK it is suggested that it is not for reasons linked to international diplomacy with some stupid countries, like the USA and a few European countries of the same ilk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvr181 Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 9 minutes ago, Tchooptip said: corruption is legal That IS an oxymoron! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tchooptip Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 2 hours ago, lvr181 said: That IS an oxymoron! The least one can say ...but in LOS... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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