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Justfine

Keto and Back

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4 hours ago, THAIPHUKET said:

Made a wonderful chicken salad with red & green pepper. Some horse reddish-onions and mayonnaise. Shocker= it got sugar.

Where to find sugar free mayonnaise in CM?

 

Seems this is the only sugar free brand=

Duke's Mayonnaise, made with Eugenia Duke's original recipe since 1917.

Take an egg, some yellow mustard, apple cider vinegar and vegetable oil.

Mix the egg and mustard first then add the vinegar, and lastly slowly add the oil while firmly whisking until you get the right consistency.

No trace of sugars. ?

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5 hours ago, Shiver said:

If you want to stay in keto and are wary of carbs, then coconut oil is great for energy (to me, better than carbs but ymmv).  It also dampens appetite.  A tablespoon here and there.

 

Apparently it's only the liver and a couple of small regions of the brain that need sugar.  I'd imagine you can get all the carbs you need from vegetables.

 

(speaking as a sedentary person who likes to experiment on all kinds of things - and not one who should be followed ?

 

There is not a single need for carbohydrates, they just provide energy.

Your body will make glucose from protein and fats.

 

A 'bullet proof' coffee or cocao in the morning gives you enough energy until long in the afternoon. A good alternative for the eggs and bacon which can get boring.

Key with keto is to have enough salt and eat lots of vegetables. No fruits, maybe some strawberries.

The vegetables are a small source of carbohydrates so you do not need to worry about it. btw Tomato is not a vegetable. ?

 

edit: Also drink enough water of course, but that should be done anyway.

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Keto is a great way of retraining yourself to lose weight and get more healthy.

I have done it several times over 30+ years.

Veggie juicing for 6 weeks was a real winner for me.

 

However, the long term effects have not been adequately studied IMO.

 

Here is (one of many) of what I feel is a good explanation of Keto, the good and the bad....

https://www.everydayhealth.com/diet-nutrition/ketogenic-diet/keto-diet-possible-short-long-term-effects/

 

Personally, I feel it should be used long enough to retrain the body.

Then we should revert to a wider range of nutritious foods which will naturally include carbs if you go plant based rather than processed foods.

 

If after Keto, weight rises, then we should review our calorie intake, nutrition levels and exercise etc.

Possibly having an occasional day without eating?

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Khun Jean said:

There is not a single need for carbohydrates, they just provide energy.

Your body will make glucose from protein and fats.

 

A 'bullet proof' coffee or cocao in the morning gives you enough energy until long in the afternoon. A good alternative for the eggs and bacon which can get boring.

Key with keto is to have enough salt and eat lots of vegetables. No fruits, maybe some strawberries.

The vegetables are a small source of carbohydrates so you do not need to worry about it. btw Tomato is not a vegetable. ?

 

edit: Also drink enough water of course, but that should be done anyway.

We need fibre

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Vegetables is the source of fibers, not grains and rice.

Fibers is not nutritional it only helps the digestive system.

Doing keto without fibers will get you constipation.

 

Personally i simulate 'seasons'.

'Summer': fresh fruits, vegetables, some meats not to much fats. (I try to not gain to much)

'Winter': more fats, vegetables, meat every day, nuts, fruit once a while (lose weight)

Never too much potatoes/pastas/rice/etc.

And the swing in weight between those 'seasons' is only about 2-3 kilo.

 

I also like to do intermittent fasting, maybe 3-4 times a month. And of course no smoking and alcohol.

 

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1 minute ago, Justfine said:

"potatoes/pastas/rice/etc."

 

None of those foods are keto

You missed the start 'Never too much'.

If it is within about 20-30 net carbs, then you will still be in ketosis.

And my personal style is to not be on a strict keto diet anyway.

I was very strict when i had to loose weight. Only carbs from vegetables.

Once i reached my goal i still only eat a few carbs, especially when compared to 'normal' in Thailand which is a full plate of rice with some meat and vegetables two/three times a day.

 

 

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The only difficult ingredient is 'MCT Oil', but if you are in Bangkok that should be available.

I make mine (cacao) with coconut oil (instead of MCT oil), coconut milk, unsalted butter (i make my own from whipping cream),  dutch cacao and some sweetener (stevia or other).

For coffee just replace the cacao with coffee or use both. ?

 

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12 hours ago, THAIPHUKET said:

Made a wonderful chicken salad with red & green pepper. Some horse reddish-onions and mayonnaise. Shocker= it got sugar.

Where to find sugar free mayonnaise in CM?

 

Seems this is the only sugar free brand=

Duke's Mayonnaise, made with Eugenia Duke's original recipe since 1917.

Google "home-made mayo"

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Say you ate thai food

 

100g of onion 9g carbs

30g of chilli 2.7g carbs

100g broccoli 7g carbs

1 medium carrot 6g

250g milk 12.5g carbs

Other foods 10g

 

That's 47.2g alone

 

No room for rice etc

 

Average Thai probably has 300g a day.

 

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4 hours ago, whaleboneman said:

Google "home-made mayo"

Results might be r rated

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17 hours ago, THAIPHUKET said:

Made a wonderful chicken salad with red & green pepper. Some horse reddish-onions and mayonnaise. Shocker= it got sugar.

Where to find sugar free mayonnaise in CM?

 

Seems this is the only sugar free brand=

Duke's Mayonnaise, made with Eugenia Duke's original recipe since 1917.

Kupee mayo in the one kilo plastic bag has no sugar added and about 150 baht. 

 

It's available in bangkok in the supermarkets but don't know about chiang mai but go check them out 

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