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BANGKOK 16 February 2019 07:06
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Testosterone, steroids, etc.

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9 hours ago, StreetCowboy said:

However hypocritical it may sound, don't bother coming down to the station if you're doped up to the eyeballs.  We cycle clean, until we get to the pub

 

As far as I can tell it is actually cyclist who are the ones doping up to their eyeballs. Oh, and by the way, if you are representative of your group, relax, we won't be coming down to the station, even though we are not doped up to the eyeballs.

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6 minutes ago, Hummin said:

I have strenght and energy as an normal 35 - 40 year old man. After awhile, you do not feel any difference than just normal. Even in the low end, I still feel great, and before, I could get some bull feeling after some few days getting a new dose, but now, hardly feel. A bit harder in the morning, like a 20 year, but thats no harm. 

 

Trt have been a very good experience for me the last 2 1/2 years, and now it will be hard to stop, if not impossible. Im on this medicine for lifetime, same as other are on lifetime medication for other reasons. 

 

The most important, TRT helped to turn my life around, and I managed to stop the spiraldown getting useless in every term physical and menthally. 

 

Now I have healthy waight, exorcise regulary, eat healty, and sleep good, and a very good sex life. 

great news!! 

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13 hours ago, Dumbastheycome said:

"You  lot  are  seriously  strange   and  entertaining, briefly"

"I told them that they were goofy clowns:

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Sorry, Robblok, my comment was meant as good-natured banter; I obviously worded it poorly.

 

As we discussed in another thread, I was surprised how limited quantities of commonly available prescription drugs could have an apparent impact on performance (although when I read more, I was not so sure in the case of that particular corticosteroid - maybe I was just quickly getting fitter at that time).

 

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Corticosteroids e.g. Cortisol have the opposite effect to anabolic steroids e.g Testosterone - actually CCstds are also called catabolic steroids because they break down muscle, not build it up.

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34 minutes ago, StreetCowboy said:

Sorry, Robblok, my comment was meant as good-natured banter; I obviously worded it poorly.

 

As we discussed in another thread, I was surprised how limited quantities of commonly available prescription drugs could have an apparent impact on performance (although when I read more, I was not so sure in the case of that particular corticosteroid - maybe I was just quickly getting fitter at that time).

 

SC

Ok did not see that one coming maybe because many people do think that every one who does strength training dopes up. Maybe I am over sensitive about it its possible. 

 

Yes drugs have an impact, I am sure that TRT has impact too. But its not that noticeable as real big doses of testosterone. I know as I have done both. When I did a cycle (10 weeks) of 500mg -750 mg test per week I could almost add new plates to the bar every week. That is certainly not the case with TRT. Recovery was so fast and I added quite a bit of muscle. This was 10 years ago but i still remember it as I was amazed at the effect. (of course that can't go on forever).

 

I am sure the TRT helps me too, but i can't say i notice or feel it. (during my training). I do notice it energy wise in my normal life. 

 

I don't mind banter, just have to be more attuned to it, anyway it keeps the topic alive.

 

Have you ever tried to take 200mg of caffeine before a ride ? I know that i could take some caffeine and some other supplements id be buzzed and working out harder. I stopped doing it as you get used to it and then it does not work. But for an incidental hard workout it certainly pays off.

 

 

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I too apologize   if I got up anyones  nose.

20 years ago I worked with a couple of hard on  body builders one of which was into competition and so muscle bound he had difficulty  getting in and out of his  vehicle.

Then as now I am a 60 kilo 175 cm scrawny. But I could  dead lift the same as both of them. I would not attempt it  now.

I made  my small  gibe simply  in memory of it. And yes, I did  take the  piss outa  both of  them at the time. ( I could  run  faster too ! ) 🙂

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Dumbastheycome said:

I too apologize   if I got up anyones  nose.

20 years ago I worked with a couple of hard on  body builders one of which was into competition and so muscle bound he had difficulty  getting in and out of his  vehicle.

Then as now I am a 60 kilo 175 cm scrawny. But I could  dead lift the same as both of them. I would not attempt it  now.

I made  my small  gibe simply  in memory of it. And yes, I did  take the  piss outa  both of  them at the time. ( I could  run  faster too ! ) 🙂

 

 

Not all bodybuilders dead lift, i do at times but not always. When i started at my gym it was said that squat and dead lift were dangerous. I should have done it back then. Anyway usually big muscles mean strength too, but not always as you can attest too. Alternatively you were really strong. 

 

I don't care too much about size as I am big and strong enough, I am more interested in getting real lean. That is far harder for me. Plus once you get at a certain age its not recommended to do many low rep strength feats. When i dead-lifted 2 years ago i could do 180 kg x 5 reps (right now no way). 

 

Not sure I am interested in doing that again, because after every session I was totally burned out. I was lifting too close to my max and dead lift is really taxing on the system. I will probably bring it back in my program but with higher reps and lower weights. 

 

Biggest problem for older lifters is their joints so its better to go higher reps 8-12 or higher then lower with heavier weights. Both can make you strong and gain muscle. 

 

For me working out in a gym is the least boring thing I can do to stay in shape. Some days I like it other days I just do it because I have too. I am trying to add a bit more cardio, but i really hate it. Still I try.

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