Thirty sex offenders arrested at Thailand airports since the start of the year

[bkk6060]

3 minutes ago, toofarnorth said:

Another giveaway Darc. was final destination Mai Rim. Not everyone wants to end up in Mai Rim , a very strange place to find ones self. I wonder if there is a ring road round Mai Rim .   OK I'm going now.

It is actually Mae Rim.

It is a great place not strange at all.

You say you are going now?  Good for you.....

[4MyEgo]

2 hours ago, Artisi said:

so you also woke up to the trick …. but keep it quiet, don't want to overdo it 

To be honest I just followed the Mrs's league, and when I saw the sign, Thai's only, I said, but I'm not Thai and she said its ok, and its a walk in the park, always smiling and playing with the kids, suffice to say, haven't had an issue yet. 

[natway09]

It may just surprise you what info they have on their computers should they feel the need to know more

[TEFLKrabi]

4 hours ago, Father Fintan Stack said:

I go through the VIP lane. One of the privileges of flying business and not being married. 

 

?

Me too...one of the privileges of having a Thai wife, flying often, but not flying with her.......?

[tominbkk]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

Thousands Of Foreigners Turned Away At Thai Airports

 

BANGKOK — More than 3,600 foreigners with criminal records have been arrested at or turned away from five major airports in the first six months of the year, immigration police said Sunday.

 

I'm curious, when someone is turned away at immigration, how do they get them back on a plane if they aren't allowed through the immigration gate?

[ronrat]

When I worked in Defence im Australia we loaned some equipment to the coppers to track a pedo from the remote  west of NSW to the airport. He had never committed anything in Australia but was a frequent visitor to Se Asia. The allowed him to board a plane to Vietnam then after it was in the air notified the Vietnamese police. He had not committed an offence there either as he had never been there but within 24 hours of arrival they caught him with a 12 year old girl in his room and it was Gary Glitter time. He had never taken Australian Citizenship and was travelling on a Croatian passport. His family in Australia had disowned him years earlier and refused to help. Guess he is still banged up in a Viet jail.

[Artisi]

1 hour ago, 4MyEgo said:

To be honest I just followed the Mrs's league, and when I saw the sign, Thai's only, I said, but I'm not Thai and she said its ok, and its a walk in the park, always smiling and playing with the kids, suffice to say, haven't had an issue yet. 

same same, on a couple of occasions I have been instructed to go with the family

[Artisi]

11 minutes ago, ronrat said:

When I worked in Defence im Australia we loaned some equipment to the coppers to track a pedo from the remote  west of NSW to the airport. He had never committed anything in Australia but was a frequent visitor to Se Asia. The allowed him to board a plane to Vietnam then after it was in the air notified the Vietnamese police. He had not committed an offence there either as he had never been there but within 24 hours of arrival they caught him with a 12 year old girl in his room and it was Gary Glitter time. He had never taken Australian Citizenship and was travelling on a Croatian passport. His family in Australia had disowned him years earlier and refused to help. Guess he is still banged up in a Viet jail.

hopefully more than banged up.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

8 hours ago, webfact said:

The 30 sex offenders were part of a larger group of 3,461 people who came under suspicion for exploiting Thailand as a "Sex Country" Daily News reported. 

 

Does this mean the government of Gambia can take back its past apology to Thailand???

 

 

[metisdead]

Some troll posts and the replies have been removed. 

[KiwiKiwi]

Exploiting Thailand as a 'sex country' is a crime?

 

I thought that was the whole point... Thais have lived high on the hog precisely because Thailand *is* a 'sex country'.

 

Muppet.

[anon789561]

2 hours ago, bkk6060 said:

It is actually Mae Rim.

It is a great place not strange at all.

You say you are going now?  Good for you.....

if you read the previous comments you may have spotted the joke

[duanebigsby]

7 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

3,461? 

 

They’re missing a few zeros there. 

The other 3,431 were just sex tourists coming for the perfectly legal  prostitution trade nice girls.

[Bastos60]

6 hours ago, BobbyL said:

More than 3,600 foreigners with criminal records have been arrested at or turned away from five major airports in the first six months of the year, immigration police said Sunday.

 

If so, then well done to them.

 

However, my question would be how does the IO office know if someone has a criminal record from outside of Thailand or is wanted in another country. Unless a country has informed Thailand that they may be travelling there and could be a danger, surely their computer at the airport can't access this information. 

 

If I am wrong then please correct me. 

They are either flagged by interpol as being wanted or they have been convicted in Thailand. 

Your foreign criminal record does not go around the world ?

[duanebigsby]

4 hours ago, Kerryd said:

When the last passenger on a flight has boarded and the doors are closed, the passenger manifest is sent to the destination along with any pertinent information (i.e. like the number of wheelchairs that may be needed). That way the Customs/Immigration staff at the destination can run the names through their database and the airport staff can be prepared when the plane arrives. (I'm sure people have gotten off a plane at least once and seen airport staff patiently waiting with an empty wheelchair).

 

Some names may be "flagged" by the system and it is quite possible that a person is able to get on a flight in one country, despite being wanted in another country. Also, in some cases, people may be able to freely travel in their own country (and some others) while not being allowed to travel to others.

For example, having a Drunk Driving conviction in the USA could prevent you from entering Canada, even though you can travel anywhere in the US (and some other countries). Visa versa, a Drug Possession charge in Canada (say for getting caught with weed) could prevent you from entering the US, but may not be  a problem if you wanted to fly to France or the Netherlands for example.

If a person has done something in "Country A" and did their time for it, "Country A" may not care where that person chooses to travel to afterwards. However, that doesn't mean "Country B" has to accept that person when they arrive. Country A is under no obligation to check each outgoing passenger to determine if Country B will accept them first.
However, the names are sent to Country B after the plane is loaded and if any names show up as flagged, Country B can turn them away when they arrive (forcing the airline to fly them back to their last point of origin), or arrest them, depending on the circumstances.
(Ideally they'd get flagged and prevented from getting on the plane in the first place however a lot of the times the Destination Country may not even seen the passenger manifest until after the plane has already departed.)

Yes also happens domestically.

People flying from city to city are often banged up at airports for parking tickets, vehicle infractions, and of course outstanding warrants.

Not sure about the rest of the world but happens in Canada.

[Bastos60]

1 hour ago, tominbkk said:

I'm curious, when someone is turned away at immigration, how do they get them back on a plane if they aren't allowed through the immigration gate?

You don't need to go through immigration to board a plane again. You can get on every floor from the departure and arrival halls.

[BigC]

8 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

3,461? 

 

They’re missing a few zeros there. 

It’s a start. I hope they get to stay in thai jails before being deported 

[moto77]

9 hours ago, 4MyEgo said:

I always go through the Thai's only counter, one of many privilege's having a Thai wife, in Thailand.......and being a hanhom man 555

I use the diplomatic queue.
MUCH faster, not to mention cheaper. ?

[wvavin]

Why so difficult to stopping sex offenders at the airports? They are everywhere at provincial or district levels. There are so many government officials patronizing "RESORTS". It is so easy to nab them!

[moto77]

3 hours ago, tominbkk said:

I'm curious, when someone is turned away at immigration, how do they get them back on a plane if they aren't allowed through the immigration gate?

Um, if they were turned away at immigration they never got through the "immigration gate" to begin with right? 

[Trouble]

7 hours ago, Cancerian said:

A sex ofender is usually a peodo or rapeist. Not someone after a happy ending. 

It would seem that since prostitution is technically illegal in Thailand, a person could be an offender of the laws since he/she is seeking sex through payment and therefore might be considered a sex offender. Just saying.

[Canuckabroad]

12 hours ago, BobbyL said:

More than 3,600 foreigners with criminal records have been arrested at or turned away from five major airports in the first six months of the year, immigration police said Sunday.

 

If so, then well done to them.

 

However, my question would be how does the IO office know if someone has a criminal record from outside of Thailand or is wanted in another country. Unless a country has informed Thailand that they may be travelling there and could be a danger, surely their computer at the airport can't access this information. 

 

If I am wrong then please correct me. 

Some countries like USA and Australia mark (or soon will mark) the passports of convicted sex offenders.  Other countries (like Canada, and presumably others) will warn destination countries when their convicted sex offenders inform the SO registry that they’ll be traveling there.  Perhaps the majority of those arrested were checked against Interpol - I assume that’s how they found the guy wanted for murder.

[Jonathan Swift]

12 hours ago, Stradavarius37 said:

I am sure the lady in that photo is delighted with being placed in an article about criminals and sex offenders....

I think that she would take more umbrage at your crass comment than in the photo itself. I certainly would.  The photo is a neutral portrait of the routine processing of tourists and visitors, a scene that anyone who has been to Thailand knows. It is pertinent to the story in exactly that way, and no other. I spend half the year or more in Thailand, and they are welcome to post any photo they may wish to of me. I have more important things to think about. It is a photo of the good guys. You are the one making the insinuation. We are not. Your cynicism reflects on your own character and your comment is out of place. 

[Norrad]

6 hours ago, Bastos60 said:

They are either flagged by interpol as being wanted or they have been convicted in Thailand. 

Your foreign criminal record does not go around the world ?

Don't be so sure. It depends on the level of integration APSS has with the persons home country's law enforcement agencies. Some have full access to national records, but not normally state level. So if you have a criminal record that is listed nationally and APSS has access then it flags you for closer inspection on arrival at your destination. Normally it will be a simple questioning, like have you ever been arrested and have you spent time in prison. But if the level of the crime is more severe it gets passed on and it's up to the destination country on how to proceed.

[yrag]

Bad guys out..

Good guys in

It's that simple

[catman20]

17 hours ago, Father Fintan Stack said:

I would be immediately suing for defamation.

 

When in Rome. 

good luck with that, that privilege is set aside for Thais only.

[BobbyL]

15 hours ago, Kerryd said:

When the last passenger on a flight has boarded and the doors are closed, the passenger manifest is sent to the destination along with any pertinent information (i.e. like the number of wheelchairs that may be needed). That way the Customs/Immigration staff at the destination can run the names through their database and the airport staff can be prepared when the plane arrives. (I'm sure people have gotten off a plane at least once and seen airport staff patiently waiting with an empty wheelchair).

 

Some names may be "flagged" by the system and it is quite possible that a person is able to get on a flight in one country, despite being wanted in another country. Also, in some cases, people may be able to freely travel in their own country (and some others) while not being allowed to travel to others.

For example, having a Drunk Driving conviction in the USA could prevent you from entering Canada, even though you can travel anywhere in the US (and some other countries). Visa versa, a Drug Possession charge in Canada (say for getting caught with weed) could prevent you from entering the US, but may not be  a problem if you wanted to fly to France or the Netherlands for example.

If a person has done something in "Country A" and did their time for it, "Country A" may not care where that person chooses to travel to afterwards. However, that doesn't mean "Country B" has to accept that person when they arrive. Country A is under no obligation to check each outgoing passenger to determine if Country B will accept them first.
However, the names are sent to Country B after the plane is loaded and if any names show up as flagged, Country B can turn them away when they arrive (forcing the airline to fly them back to their last point of origin), or arrest them, depending on the circumstances.
(Ideally they'd get flagged and prevented from getting on the plane in the first place however a lot of the times the Destination Country may not even seen the passenger manifest until after the plane has already departed.)

Thanks for the info. 

[Ks45672]

5 hours ago, Jonathan Swift said:

I think that she would take more umbrage at your crass comment than in the photo itself. I certainly would.  The photo is a neutral portrait of the routine processing of tourists and visitors, a scene that anyone who has been to Thailand knows. It is pertinent to the story in exactly that way, and no other. I spend half the year or more in Thailand, and they are welcome to post any photo they may wish to of me. I have more important things to think about. It is a photo of the good guys. You are the one making the insinuation. We are not. Your cynicism reflects on your own character and your comment is out of place. 

If you were in the middle of a picture titled "sex offenders stopped at airports" how would we know you're one of the good guys or one of the filth? 

[Kerryd]

The degree to which a persons criminal record is shared with other countries is dependant on whatever agreements those countries have signed (nationally and internationally). Some countries are more protective of personal information regarding their citizens, others have comprehensive agreements that allow the exchange of a variety of information.

For example, Canada and the US recently signed an agreement that would allow the US to request personal tax information on Canadians living in the USA, something that many countries would refuse to do (unless it was a part of an active investigation).
(That's not something that would come up at a border crossing or on a flight but is a minor example of what kind of information different countries will share with each other.)

 

It's hard to tell what kind of information is actually shared between which countries (without literally devoting your life to studying such matters) but obviously there is enough being shared with Thailand to allow them to catch at least some of "bad guys".

 

As for people who are denied entry, what seems to be the normal procedure is that the person is held in the detention center until the airline (or the person) can arrange to fly back to the "last point of origin". That person would then be escorted onto the plane (to make sure he/she/they didn't try to sneak off while in the Departure area).

I got to sit next to one such individual (from Australia) who tried to get into the USA by flying from Australia to Japan, changing airlines (and tickets), flying to Canada and then changing airlines and tickets again and then trying to get into the States.
He was denied entry into the US before he even got onto the plane. (He claimed it was simply because of all his tats but it seems he was a biker from Australia, probably with a criminal record). In Vancouver, the US has an Immigration Control right in the airport, to screen people before they get onto a flight to the US. They held him in a detention center in Vancouver for 3 days until the last airline he arrived on (Japan Air Lines) could book a seat for him back to Japan and I got to listen to him the whole way to Narita.

Obviously they don't catch all of them and in many cases won't even know what kind of background someone has. Imagine though what things would be like if there were no way to check anyone at all ?
Also note that the original story does not say that there were 3,461 Sex Offenders. It says that there were 3,461 who were "under suspicion" which could mean a host of things. It could simply mean that their names were similar to some who actually are/were sex offenders, or that the reasons they are considered sex offenders in their home countries isn't sufficient reason to deny them entry into Thailand. (Maybe in the same way that a drug conviction in your home country could prevent you from entering some countries while others may not care.)

Also note that the article mentions that the 30 they caught represents 20% of the serious criminals caught at the airports so far this year. That means they also caught 120 or so "other" serious criminals over the last 5 1/2 months, just at the "airports" (they only mention Suvarnabhumi and Don Muang). Could be they've caught (or turned away) as many or more at the land crossings as well.

 

[Cancerian]

11 hours ago, Trouble said:

It would seem that since prostitution is technically illegal in Thailand, a person could be an offender of the laws since he/she is seeking sex through payment and therefore might be considered a sex offender. Just saying.

Say all you want.  We could say the same about gay sex. At the end of the day its real sex ofenders the story is about and good on them no body wants that shit in there country