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This old droids chipset is competitive to mid range phones?  It's seems slow to do things.  I have to wait sometimes.  My battery should be getting weak.  Sometimes it powers off when using the camera at 45% charge.  

I do have an otter box case in this phone which has saved me in many drops.  You know off the couch, off the table, off the car seat.   I have gone through about 5 gorilla Glass screen on protectors.  Love them as they never scratch.  But do chip and crack.   

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ok so I am in urgent need of a phone now...  my phone suddenly shut down in Seoul on my way home... it wont take a charge or turn on... no matter what I do.  its the droid turbo... Im not sure if the battery just died or the charging connector or what.  it has been doing this lately but usually charges up or turns back on...  it was at like 45% battery and I turned on phone and it powered off.  at first it was showing zero battery but  now no battery indication at all.  I may try to order a new battery and install it to get my trip pictures off adn my contact list since I have not backed up my contact list in years .  so Im looking at needing a phone ASAP... I tried the Oukitel K10 at alliexpress but ship dates of 45+ days wont work I can wait 2-3 days like on amazon?

I dont see the Xaiomi phones at target.  

IT would be best if this phone works on verizon at least for awhile until I can switch to some cheap carrier but no more 2 years contracts ever for me. 

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update... it is finally showing some life and charging... I guess I happened to touch the charging cord and got it just right... after 2+ years its amazing this micro C still  charge port works at all..... good news is as soon as it is 100% charged I will remove all pics and backup contact list

 

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Ellski; I'm guessing you are in transit to USA and I'm more than just guessing that it might be a good idea to get a new phone soon.  America is not a very good place to buy a mobile.  I have just poured over Amazon USA looking for decent phones at a decent price and I found a few items I can suggest you consider; mainly I found older phones or unreasonably priced phones at Amazon.  For example the Meizu 15 is $589 at Amazon and $356 at Aliexpress, and some of the older model phones Amazon has listed are just ridiculous.
 
I am having trouble figuring out what features you are looking for in a phone.  You mention the Oukitel K10?  That's a very weird phone, massively big and heavy, with no nice features except a 11000 mAh battery, and I suppose it will survive drops better than average as well.  Anyway, I restricted my Amazon search to phones with biggish batteries.
 
Here are some phones available at Amazon.  The Xiaomi Redmi 5 Plus $179.39 at Amazon vs $158 at Lazada.  The Cubot X18 Plus is $237 from Amazon which includes paying for expedited shipping vs $158 at Lazada.  The Huawei Honor 7x is $199.99 at Amazon with 3 GB RAM/32 GB ROM or $250 with 4 GB RAM/64 GB ROM while Lazada doesn't list the 3/32 version and only charges you $179 for the 4/64 version.  The Asus Zenfone Max Plus (M1) is $219.89 at Amazon vs $149 at Lazada.  
 
Even though Xiaomi has moved on to the Redmi 6 the Redmi 5 Plus still stands up well today, released in February 2018 it has a 4000 mAh battery, the loudest max in call voice volume at 71 dB, a reasonable camera and chipset, but unfortunately with the Android 7.1.2 Nougat OS you won't get the advantages of Android Oreo.
 
Huawei is on the Honor 9 now, with the Honor 10 note soon to be announced, but the Honor 7X isn't really ancient, it has a decent camera, a 3340 mAh battery, a decent chipset, and may be upgradeable to Android Oreo.  It has a respectable 66 dB max voice volume.
 
The Asus Zenfone Max Plus (M1) was released in December 2017, has a 4130 mAh battery, okay cameras, runs on Android 7.0 Nougat, and has the weakest  Antutu score of the phones mentioned here.  However a number of people on the Thai/Visa forum have liked the phone and found it to be a good value.
 
The Cubot X18 Plus is fairly new and runs on stock Android 8.0 Oreo.  It has a 4000 mAh battery, okay cameras and chipset, and is the best of the phones with respect to usable surface at 79%.  I read a few reviews about it and they were consistent in that they liked the screen, the feature that you get for the price, and they did not like the audio output complaining that the volume was not very loud and the sound quality was not very good.
 
I guess you are no longer considering the Umidigi A1 Pro, which has "only" a 3150 mAh battery, has the least memory, and has a Quad-core CPU vs Octa-core for the other phones.  However the Umidigi is an even newer model phone than the Cubot and comes with Android 8.1 Oreo out of the box.  As such it's Antutu score is a respectable 45,110.  
 
The screen of the Umidigi A1 Pro is 5.5 in, the Asus Zenfone Max Plus is 5.7 in, the Huawei Honor 7X is 5.93 in, the Xiaomi Redmi 5 Plus is 5.99 in, and the Cubot X18 Plus is also 5.99 inch.  No big surprises in body width, the Umidigi with the smallest screen is 69.1 mm wide and the widest body is the Xiaomi Redmi 5 Plus at 75.5 mm which has the bigger 5.99 in screen.  As I  mentioned the Cubot is the most efficient with respect to screen as it's body is only 73.6 mm wide with it's 5.99 in screen.
 
And if you are going to be dropping your phone Ellski, then add the dimensions of a protective case to the bare body size of the phones.
 
You have options Ellski, for example pick up a Xiaomi Redmi 5 Plus for $179.39 at Amazon which will work until you get back to Thailand (which is more than I can say for your Nokia).  Then when you are back in Thailand you can consider your next phone at your leisure, and it's easy to sell a used Xiaomi Redmi at the Thai shops.
 
Alternatively buy a Umidigi A1 Pro for $122.98 at Amazon.  Selling that used won't be as easy as selling a Xiaomi; but some shop will give you something for it, or pass it along to somebody.  I have decided that after my Cubot J3 arrives I will play around with it for a while and then give it away to the woman who cleans my room twice a month as a tip.  Her phone is ancient, so I'll have fun playing with my 2,139 baht toy and it may come in handy for her, or she can give it away to one of her daughters.  My point is that holding onto the Nokia Droid until it completely dies might not be a good idea.  Remember, all the phones mentioned here have an IPS screen.  Your Nokia Droid has a Super AMOLED screen; they are brighter with better contrast.  So get a new phone now as a bridge, see how you like an IPS screen, then take it from there.
 
You are kind of annoying Ellski in that I think you have trouble deciding what you want in a phone, which makes it hard for me to focus on suggestions for you.  But at least you don't ignore me and my suggestions, and I'm grateful for that.  Thank you.

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my phone is a motorola droid turbo...  im not sure what features all these phones have..or what I need.  I see my battery is like 3900 ahr.  it was ok at first...  i can see the draw for replaceable batteries.   

I try not to drop my phones but it will happen.  I have trouble deciding these types of decisions.

I am thinking of spending more and more time in Asia in the future or possibly if i find the right woman, living in the USA may be in the cards. 

I m currently with verizon.. but free of my contract... they use CDMA and LTE frequencies. 

Verizon band classes in use currently:

CDMA

Band class 0 - 850 MHz

Band class 1 - 1900 MHz

 

LTE

Band 13 - primary

Band 4

Band 2

 

I am thinking about going with one of the small carriers for the  lower price.. its not like i make many calls... i just use wifi connection most of the time.   im not sure what other carriers use..    i could switch to at&T then the GSM phones wold likely work.

I do like a bright screen for outdoor use and good sound is important as we get older or in a noisy location.

I have thought that two phones may be the best solution. 

I am home now in USA..I do need to get my phone soon.. but my phone seemed to wake up after 20 hours of not taking a charge??  just odd.. 

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My Cubot J3 arrived today.  It came with a Thai and an American plug for charging and a soft plastic cover.  The build quality seems very nice in general.  The screen shows good detail and I can manually set the brightness so that at high it is quite bright, or I can have the screen optimize the brightness level for available light.  Google maps are clear and quick to display.  Pictures look fairly good.  I wondered if an older type TFT screen (not IPS) at 215 ppi would look good or not, and I would say the screen is fine.  In a call the max volume is not particularly loud, but it's loud enough and clear.  
 
I reported in the first post of this topic that Android Authority stated that phones with Android Go will come with only nice pre-installed apps.  My Cubot J3 arrived with twenty-four pre-installed apps, and I don't have a problem with any of the apps.  Thankfully there is no pre-installed weather widget, which I consider a bloatware zombie as I have been told that they increase the rate the battery drains.
 
I paid 2,169 baht for the phone on June 15 and received it on July 24.  That represents well a potential problem with buying from Aliexpress.  The store I bought it from acted as if it was in stock when I ordered it, but a week later they messaged me asking if I would extend their allowed processing time by five days as the phone was not yet in the warehouse.  I did extend the processing time by five days and two days before the order would have automatically been cancelled by Aliexpress they shipped the phone.  I could have cancelled the order at any time before they shipped the phone; I have done that before at Aliexpress and my refund was received at my bank in about two weeks.
 
I would say, first impression, that it's a pretty amazing phone for 2,169 baht.  I'm not recommending that anyone (other than me) be foolish enough to actually buy it.  Especially with the Xiaomi Redmi 6A available at Aliexpress for less than 3,000 baht (a phone which I do recommend as a value buy). 
 
It works as a phone; call quality (3G) is good, apps I checked work quickly, screen is okay, and it's small bodied and lightweight.

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Chinese cellphones are too much of a security threat. 

 

My Samsung Galaxy J7 PRO is a great phone.

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On 7/24/2018 at 11:56 PM, NCC1701A said:

Chinese cellphones are too much of a security threat. 

 

My Samsung Galaxy J7 PRO is a great phone.

How so? 

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From Wikipedia:  In 2017, ZTE was fined for illegally exporting U.S. technology to Iran and North Korea. In April 2018, after the company failed to properly reprimand the employees involved, the U.S. Department of Commerce banned U.S. companies from exporting to ZTE for seven years. The ban was lifted in July after ZTE replaced its senior management, and agreed to pay additional fines and establish an internal compliance team.
 
I wonder what NCC1701A means when he says, "Chinese cellphones are too much of a security threat."  He might mean that because ZTE reportedly exported U.S. technology to Iran and North Korea that this is a security threat to the world.  He might mean that because one Chinese Mobile phone manufacturer reportedly did that that all Chinese Mobile phone manufacturers are "too much of a security threat".  I have no idea what he means.  Why would Xiaomi, for example, be too much of a security threat, because of alleged actions by ZTE?  Because both are in China?  I don't get it.
 
I do get it when he says, "My Samsung Galaxy J7 PRO is a great phone"  I believe he is wrong.  To be fair it was kind of an okay phone when it was released in July, 2017.  It has a Super AMOLED screen and I like them, and as single down firing speakers go the audio output is reportedly not bad, um, not too much else I can say in it's praise and it has a lot of shortcomings: eg, poor screen-to-body ratio, mediocre chipset and memory, mediocre cameras, and a high price tag.
 
The Xiaomi Redmi 6A went way up in price yesterday, to 4,012 baht from below 3,000 baht before that.  It remains my best affordable smartphone recommendation, but at this time it might be wise to just wait until the price goes back down.  Yesterday the new Doogee X70 went on sale at Aliexpress for 2,673 baht.  
 
For fun I'll compare the Samsung Galaxy J7 PRO with the Doogee X70, the Xiaomi Redmi 6A, and the Nubia M2.  The Nubia M2 has ZTE as the parent company, so it's high on the list of security threats.  It also has about the same release date as the Samsung, has a AMOLED screen, and sells on Lazada for 4,790 baht as compared to the Samsung Galaxy J7 PRO current price of 9,800 baht on Lazada (it had been 8,299 baht at Lazada, but that seller just ran out of stock).  Although I can't go so far as to say the Nubia M2 is a great phone I would say that it's a very good phone, especially for its price point, and it bests the Samsung Galaxy J7 PRO in practically every category.  The 2,673 baht Doogee does pretty well vs the Samsung, I think, for less than one third of the price, and the Xiaomi Redmi 6A is expected to decrease in price at Aliexpress and also become available at Lazada and the Thai shops.
 
 
All phone have a 5.5 in screen, but the width of the phone is 68.8 mm for the Doogee, 71.5 mm for the Redmi 6A, 74.7 mm for the Galaxy J7 Pro, and 75.9 mm for the Nubia M2.  According to devicespecifications the Doogee has a 76.8% display area, the group leader, while the other three phones tend toward 71% - 73.4% display area.  To be fair the Doogee is a very thick phone at 11.1 mm, while the group leader in that category is the Nubia M2 at 7 mm, with the Samsung at 7.9 mm and the Xiaomi at 8.3 mm.
 
The memory champ is also the Nubia M2 with 4 GB RAM/64 GB ROM, with the economy Doogee trailing the group with 2 GB RAM/16 GB ROM.
 
Cleary the best camera set up is the Nubia M2, with the Samsung just barely beating the Redmi and the Doogee trailing in the camera department.
 
Many review are available about the audio output of the Nubia M2 and they rate it highly.  The Samsung does well with audio, and with the brand new Xiaomi and Doogee it not known how loud the speaker is or how well it sounds.  Xiaomi has a good track record with respect to sound output, as in the Redmi 5 Plus, and I have no idea about a new, budget Doogee.  I'm hard of hearing so max in call volume is important to me, and as I mentioned in my prior post, the budget Cubot J3 has a speaker which is loud and clear enough for me, so probable the speaker on the Doogee is okay, but I have no data about it.
 
To look at performance of these phones I'll post a Kimovil comparison.  Kimovil has not yet listed the Doogee X70 so I used the Doogee X60L and, strangely, I couldn't find the Galaxy J7 PRO on Kimovil so I used the Galaxy J7 Nxt which has the same chipset and memory.
 
 
Antutu score of 62,000 for the Nubia M2, 55,277 for the Redmi 6A, 46,312 for the Samsung, and 32,131 for the Doogee.  What's surprising there is that with less memory and supposedly a weaker SoC the Xiaomi outperforms the Samsung!  Having a 12 nm process technology helps the Xiaomi as well as Android Oreo 8.1 for an OS.
 
In sum, for 4,790 baht at Lazada, the Nubia M2 has more memory, better Antutu score, is narrower, has better audio output, and far better cameras than the great Samsung Galaxy J7 PRO which is 9,800 baht at Lazada.  The M2 has a bigger battery than the Samsung and charges faster.
 
I have the personal opinion that the Nubia M2 is the most attractive phone of the group, the black color has gold accents. The Nubia M2 Play is also an interesting phone; I'll leave that as an exercise for the reader.

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The Leagoo S10 is still some months away and I think it's an exciting phone.  Here is a link where you can sign up for a 21% Early Bird discount.
 
 
And here is a link where you can guess what the specs will be, I guess, with a few people getting prizes or discounts or something.
 
 
And here is a link to devicespecifications which reveals some specs.
 
 
Highlights include a 6.21 AMOLED display, a range of SoC options from the Helio P60 to the Snapdragon 710, and memory option either 6 GB or 8 GB of RAM and 64 GB or 128 GB or 256 GB of ROM.  Apparently very nice cameras, super fast charging, and a number of other high end features will be included and the price is expected to be from $300 - $500 depending on features selected.
 
To me, this is likely to be a very good value.  I'm signed up for the Early Bird discount.
 
 

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In a prior post here I reported that Lazada may be selling the Huawei P20 Pro for 17,790 baht.  I checked further into that offer, and found out that what you will get if you buy from that listing is a Huawei P20 and not a P20 Pro.  So; false listing.
 
Checking out many Lazada stores it seems to me the best deal for a Huawei P20 Pro is 22,800 by J9 Store (93% positive seller rating).
 
 
That's about the same as Aliexpress, and a pretty good discount.  Hopefully that is not a false listing.

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There are two Meizu phones which compete well with the Xiaomi Redmi 6A.  Especially until the Xiaomi Redmi 6A gets back to under 3,000 baht.  The budget Meizu M6T and the higher spec'd Meizu M8C.  As compared on gsmarena, devicespecifications, and Kimovil:
 
 
 
 
The Meizu M8C is smaller, lighter, with the same size screen and a bigger battery vs the Xiaomi, and goes on Aliexpress for 3,553 baht.
 
The Meizu M6T is the same weight as the Xiaomi yet has a bigger screen and a bigger battery, and is 4,483 at Aliexpress.
 
The Xiaomi Redmi 6A has the best Antutu score but the worst useable surface % of the three phones, at 3,984 baht currently, it is more expensive than the similar, if not better, Meizu M8C; and the more powerful Meizu M6T is not that much more money than the Xiaomi.
 
Audio quality is the big, unknown, kicker here for me.  Both companies have a good track record with quality audio from single down firing speakers in general.  But the Xiaomi Mi8 SE was reviewed recently on gsmarena and the review reported that the speaker had a lot of distortion.  So I think the two Meizu's mentioned here deserve consideration by someone in the market for a budget smartphone.

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Lazada is listing the Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite for a great price.  I can now give the Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite my highest recommendation for anyone buying a smartphone in the 4,000 - 8,000 baht range.
 
It's 5,399 baht in the 3 GB 32 GB version and 6,499 baht in the 4 GB 64 GB version.
 
For that you get a pure OS, a 4000 mAh battery, nice cameras; I could go on and on.  This phone just has the perfect mid-range specifications.
 
 
I would like to see stereo speakers here, that seems like the last quality spec that smartphone manufacturers add.  Other than that this model has it all.

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if a order on lazada from USA what is the best way to pay to limit exchange rate charges?  i have paypal or credit cards 

 

 

and would this be the right glass screen protector? and what about a case? 

 

https://www.lazada.co.th/catalog/?q=Xiaomi+Mi+A2+Lite+case&_keyori=ss&from=input&spm=a2o4m.pdp.search.go.56277340mffOsJ

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