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23 hours ago, daocat555 said:
I want to thank the Xiaomi Official Store at Lazada for drastically raising its price for the Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite.  That got me searching for alternative seller's (Cool Cool, SUNSKY) and alternative phones.
 
The Umidigi One and Umidigi One Pro are two phones which stand up well to the Xiaomi.
 
 
The Umidigi's are shorter, narrower, and thinner than the Xiaomi (by just a bit), and 1 gram heavier with a slightly weaker battery.  Both models of the Umidigi have hi tech stereo speakers.  The Pro model has ultra fast wireless charging and NFC.
 
With the wireless charger included the Umidigi Pro is less expensive than the Xiaomi, and although the Xiaomi powder blue is cool the Umidigi's twilight color has awesome color shifts in the sun.

Is this also changing your mind about Xiaomi Redmi 6A which I plan to buy as soon as it is available at Lazada?

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Fvw53: well yes and no.  No, in that I am still a big fan of the Xiaomi Redmi 6A, and yes, in that if I were to offer a single recommendation to someone interested in an affordable phone I would pick one of the Umidigi models.  Stereo high tech speakers go a long way for me and ultra rapid wireless charging, to me, is the cat's meow.  The Xiaomi is at Lazada in many memory configurations and colors, with quite a few stores to choose from.  For example with 2/16 it's 3,590 baht or with 2/32 it's 3,990 baht.  I got one for my housekeeper's daughter for 3,405 baht from Aliexpress and it has already been shipped.  It's currently 3,281 baht from Hong Kong Goldway at Aliexpress (gold color) and 3,182 baht at Xiaomi Dreami Store (black color only, today they ran out of stock in the other two colors, but tomorrow they may get more stock.  I bought mine from Xiaomi Dreami).
 
The 6A has it's single speaker firing straight out of the back of the phone.  I think that's disgraceful (sorry; will try not to get too emotional about phone hardware).
 
 
So today my singular recommendation for an affordable smartphone is the Umidigi One Pro. I posted a question on Umidigi Thailand Facebook page and am joining Umidigi's Official Forum group so I can get more info on this phone.  Will warts be discovered?  Maybe.  I sang the praises of the Xiaomi Mi 8 SE for weeks until gsmarena posted their review and gave it poor marks (for me) for audio output.  So with new phones there are unknown factors.

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Concerning the Xiaomi Redmi 6A and what memory to buy it with I thought of the expression, "you can take the Lady out of the bar but you can't take the bar out of the Lady".  The analogy meaning that it might be best to buy this phone with 2/16 memory, thus getting a very affordable, working phone.  If you buy a higher memory version you must spend a fair amount more money and you won't be getting a high or mid-range phone.  You'd just be getting a slightly better entry level phone; you can't take entry level out of the 6A.
 
I am really impressed with dealextreme.  They frequently have the lowest price of all International sellers.  With International sellers shipping speed is very important.  I ordered the Umidigi One Pro yesterday from dealextreme and they shipped it today already.  They have the lowest price for this phone, but not the lowest price for the wireless charger which I ordered yesterday from Aliexpress and they shipped that today.  So for 6,220 baht I ordered the Umidigi One Pro and it's charger, yesterday, and both are in transit to me today.
 
It's an unknown, un-reviewed, phone with amazing specifications.  So please take my choice with a grain of salt, but until there are some unexpected problems with the phone I will make it my best affordable smartphone recommendation.
 
 
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18 minutes ago, daocat555 said:
Concerning the Xiaomi Redmi 6A and what memory to buy it with I thought of the expression, "you can take the Lady out of the bar but you can't take the bar out of the Lady".  The analogy meaning that it might be best to buy this phone with 2/16 memory, thus getting a very affordable, working phone.  If you buy a higher memory version you must spend a fair amount more money and you won't be getting a high or mid-range phone.  You'd just be getting a slightly better entry level phone; you can't take entry level out of the 6A.
 
I am really impressed with dealextreme.  They frequently have the lowest price of all International sellers.  With International sellers shipping speed is very important.  I ordered the Umidigi One Pro yesterday from dealextreme and they shipped it today already.  They have the lowest price for this phone, but not the lowest price for the wireless charger which I ordered yesterday from Aliexpress and they shipped that today.  So for 6,220 baht I ordered the Umidigi One Pro and it's charger, yesterday, and both are in transit to me today.
 
It's an unknown, un-reviewed, phone with amazing specifications.  So please take my choice with a grain of salt, but until there are some unexpected problems with the phone I will make it my best affordable smartphone recommendation.
 
 

Please l us know how it works out.

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Leaning towards the Huawei Nova 3, has most of what I need/ want.

 

Video - 2160p@30fps, 1080p@60fps, 1080p@30fps
Selfie camera     Dual     24 MP, f/2.0, 26mm

6Gb Ram, 128 Gb storage & a Headphone jack.

 

All for around 13.kbaht.

 

Yep, I'd like  P20, but cannot justify paying so much more, when all I want is a good camera, don't play games, & use LINE to call my sister every few weeks.

 

Next year when 5G rolls out,  I imagine they'll start to exceed the 1000usd ceiling. Daft money, but they'll sell.

 

Anyway Daocat, where's the best place to get a Nova from.?

 

 

 

 

 

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Faraday; I'm working on it which may take me awhile.  Aliexpress for sure as Lazada, SUNSKY, GearBest, geekbuying, and Banggood are all much more expensive.  But in Aliexpress there are judgement calls you must make with some stores offering 6/128 at a cheaper price than 6/64 in the same color which makes no sense.  Also the price varies a lot according to the color (for me the color is important especially with the beautiful gradient finish of the Huawei Nova 3).  And different colors vary in price between different stores, and you must take the Store rating into consideration as well as their stated time to ship.  

 

So, do you have a memory configuration that you want?  What about color?  The black color is the cheapest on every Store I checked so far, but man the Purple or Blue, for example, really adds bling to the phone.  The blue, to me, is not blue, it's seagreen.  I don't care for it.  The black or gold is dull.  

 

Until I hear from you I am going to poke around Aliexpress looking for a Nova 3 in purple with 6/128 and your assignment is to please check to see if the camera has image stabilization (OIS).  I haven't seen where it has OIS, and if it doesn't have OIS the number of pixels is completely irrelevent unless you use a tripod because you can get motion blur.  The less light available the more motion blur you will get.

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The Huawei Nova 3 at Aliexpress in 6/128 memory.
 
In black, $398.99 from Hongkong VT Store, with 98.8% positive feedback and free shipping to Thailand in 16-23 days seems okay.  In purple $439.99 from Shenzhen Pophong Store, which has a 98.5% positive feedback with 13-20 day free shipping to Thailand seems okay.
 
Some stores are offering it in red.  Per gsmarena it doesn't come in red but the stores show a picture of it red?  Who knows.
 
Lastly, I do not believe it has OIS.  That, to me, that is essential for good photo results.
 
Okay, now I am going to try to be coherent about why I would not buy the Xiaomi Redmi 5 at this time.  My general rule is newer phones are better than older phones even when you are getting the older phone at a better discount. 
 
Thank you dddave and faraday for giving me something to do this Thursday early morning.  Off topic, I took a notion to watch the 1958 movie "Bell Book and Candle" a couple of hours ago and I was unable to find it online for free.  I couldn't find it so I ordered it in DVD, used, from the Salvation Army via Amazon and had it shipped to my shipping company suite in the USA.  From there I'll forward it to me.  Does anybody know of a website which legally gives you access to old movies?

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I think there are many posters like Faraday. We prefer a smartphone with a nice camera but don’t care about gaming/graphics. What are the options? *I would go the torrent route for old movies so I can’t help with that.


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CarolinaJames; I am a big Meizu fan.  My current phone, the Meizu 15 has a pretty good camera.  It has not come to any Thai Online seller, but Aliexpress has it for $309.49 in the stunning piano gloss white.  Recommending this phone is going against my "newer is better" rule, but with the Meizu 16th price of  $496.99 the difference in price is steep considering that not all that much has been improved on the Meizu 16th.
 
Gsmarena is a review site which I consider the gold standard review site and they did not care all that much for the camera on the Meizu 15 complaining of poor white balance and noise at times.  For those reasons gsmarena called the camera "short of flagship standards".  But with four axis image stabilization (OIS) I can guarantee you that you will get clearer pictures than with a camera which does not have OIS.  
 
I am also a big Xiaomi fan, but the camera is usually a weak point of a Xiaomi phone.  I am not a Huawei fan but the P20 Pro has an incredible camera.  If someone is interested in a phone with a good camera, and as you point out many people are, then one possibility is to wait for some models which have yet to be released.
 
What would be my recommendation for a phone with a good camera for 13,000 baht or less?  The Meizu 15 and you have 3,000 baht left in your bank.  Okay not the Meizu because I'm a known Meizu homer who can't be trusted with Meizu recommendations?
 
Um, the Huawei Honor 10 for about $365 on Aliexpress or 14,000 baht at Lazada, with gsmarena saying it has OIS but no mention of OIS on devicespecifications or Kimovil.  But gsmarena notes that the single, down firing speaker has a max voice level of 69.3 dB, which scores in the excellent range of gsmarena groupings but I think is pretty lame for a $365 phone.
 
Previously I have searched on Google under "smartphones with the best camera" and "upcoming smartphones with good camera", and different review sites have different recommendations in that price range.  Please search yourself and bring here information that you discover.  For sure I can say this, in the next year and a half some mobiles are going to come out with super cameras.  Three lens rear cameras and Sony developing higher resolution sensors is going to lead to some really nice camera setups.  So buying a bridge phone, for not too much money, and saving up for an upcoming phone just might be the best strategy.  I don't know.

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I think Xiami did well in general with the Pocophone except "you'll hear a slightly tinny quality to the audio, indicating that the speaker also wasn't a priority". And I would prefer that they use the Snapdragon 710 for the SoC.

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I noticed CarolinaJames sent her query about a nice camera from her iPhone.  Depending on her iPhone model her phone may already have a camera which is listed on many websites as having one of the best camera setups.  Also she posted via the mobile app which I just installed so I could do that also.

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There sure are a lot of ads on the Thai Visa mobile app.  The Meizu M6T is a nice value phone, compared with the Xiaomi Redmi 5 and the Redmi 6A.
 
 
Of the three I would lean towards the Redmi 6A, but each model has it's advantages.
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I have decided fir me a good camera is #1, battery life #2.   I don't give a flip about looks or color.  #3 is ease of use. Ie  relates to hand size.  I can grip it solid and the buttons are  properly placed.    As a design engineer,  I predict a device that will be generic with no buttons on it at all.  then you go through a customization process where you turn the phone on in a certain grip that you feel comfortable with with its case that you've selected.  And the phone asks you where are you want buttons to be and you touch various locations with your eyes closed and from then on both locations are where those buttons are located but you can change anytime and you can probably have multiple person setups. 

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